Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.

[BlueJaysRockies]

Originally Posted by Triple B

His mother is dealing with cancer and she's been on his mind all season long. That'll explain his lack of focus and his "down" season.

I want EVERYONE to listen to the nyuks that are all about analytics. They're 100% correct, Vlad WILL be a failure and his career will go nowhere.

That being said, I'm still a believer and if everyone is listening to the fWAR crowd and is panic selling because Vladdy sucks, I'm buying all high-end at 10 cents on the dollar. Make your loss my loss and I hope each and every WAR-whore rips me over it.

I've lost my father, mother and my wife to cancer in last few years. I know how this can affect one's mind and attitude. I've always rooted for this kid and his smile and I will now root for him even more. He is fun to watch play and I wish him and his family nothing but health and happiness.

[Fitz23]

Originally Posted by BlueJaysRockies

I've lost my father, mother and my wife to cancer in last few years. I know how this can affect one's mind and attitude. I've always rooted for this kid and his smile and I will now root for him even more. He is fun to watch play and I wish him and his family nothing but health and happiness.

I am so sorry for your losses…and second the well wishes for Vlad Jr and his family.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by BlueJaysRockies

I've lost my father, mother and my wife to cancer in last few years. I know how this can affect one's mind and attitude. I've always rooted for this kid and his smile and I will now root for him even more. He is fun to watch play and I wish him and his family nothing but health and happiness.

I’m sorry for how much it has affected you and your family. I’m cheering Vlad on and expect people like BBaiter and VDNut to continue their onslaught. Again, I hope everyone listens to them and start panic selling.

[BBases31]

Trade rumors

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fas...this-offseason

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

If you're the type of guy who believes in Fangraph's Steamer projections, you'll be happy with the projection that Steamer put out for Vladdy

Look up his past Steamer projections, they fell short.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Trade rumors

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fas...this-offseason

Right up there with the Jays signing Ohtani. Believe it when it happens.

[Mymoneypls]

Originally Posted by BlueJaysRockies

I've lost my father, mother and my wife to cancer in last few years. I know how this can affect one's mind and attitude. I've always rooted for this kid and his smile and I will now root for him even more. He is fun to watch play and I wish him and his family nothing but health and happiness.

Man, I’m very sorry. Keep your head up and stay strong.


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[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Trade rumors

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fas...this-offseason

So, dude, I generally don’t interact with you, because it’s a waste of time. But I do feel compelled to inform you that this isn’t a rumor. It’s Buster Olney, during his podcast, wondering out loud if a trade might be on the minds of Toronto’s decision makers.

“I haven't heard directly from anyone in the Blue Jays organization that that's what they're going to do…” -Olney

If it were a rumor, it would be based on an executive putting the word out publicly (often done anonymously) that the Jays are considering trade options, or perhaps an exec from another team saying that they’ve spoken to Toronto’s front office and received an indication that Vlad could be available.

The closest thing to any smoke here is that Olney implies that other execs are monitoring the situation to see if the Jays might perhaps at some point show a willingness to consider offers. But that isn’t a rumor.

There’s no fire here. There isn’t even smoke. This is more Buster Olney trying to light his own fart on fire.


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[Triple B]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

So, dude, I generally don’t interact with you, because it’s a waste of time. But I do feel compelled to inform you that this isn’t a rumor. It’s Buster Olney, during his podcast, wondering out loud if a trade might be on the minds of Toronto’s decision makers.

“I haven't heard directly from anyone in the Blue Jays organization that that's what they're going to do…” -Olney

If it were a rumor, it would be based on an executive putting the word out publicly (often done anonymously) that the Jays are considering trade options, or perhaps an exec from another team saying that they’ve spoken to Toronto’s front office and received an indication that Vlad could be available.

The closest thing to any smoke here is that Olney implies that other execs are monitoring the situation to see if the Jays might perhaps at some point show a willingness to consider offers. But that isn’t a rumor.

There’s no fire here. There isn’t even smoke. This is more Buster Olney trying to light his own fart on fire.

This basic level article is what fuels this guy's "I keep hearing rumors" take. If you read the same article from October 7 over and over, you don't "keep hearing rumors".

[StateEx]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

There’s no fire here. There isn’t even smoke. This is more Buster Olney trying to light his own fart on fire.

Thanks for the laugh. I used to really like Olney.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

So, dude, I generally don’t interact with you, because it’s a waste of time.

Apparently it isn't a waste of time. You can't resist

But I do feel compelled to inform you that this isn’t a rumor. It’s Buster Olney, during his podcast, wondering out loud if a trade might be on the minds of Toronto’s decision makers.

“I haven't heard directly from anyone in the Blue Jays organization that that's what they're going to do…” -Olney


If it were a rumor, it would be based on an executive putting the word out publicly (often done anonymously) that the Jays are considering trade options, or perhaps an exec from another team saying that they’ve spoken to Toronto’s front office and received an indication that Vlad could be available.

Lol if they were starting to think about trading their most popular player, the last thing an executive would do is leak that to the media.

There’s no fire here. There isn’t even smoke. This is more Buster Olney trying to light his own fart on fire.

He is one of the most well connected journalists in the sport and if he's saying it it's because it's got some legs. So yes, I'll take Buster Olney's word over the guy who pumps Yordan cards on a message board

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Apparently it isn't a waste of time. You can't resist



Lol if they were starting to think about trading their most popular player, the last thing an executive would do is leak that to the media.



He is one of the most well connected journalists in the sport and if he's saying it it's because it's got some legs. So yes, I'll take Buster Olney's word over the guy who pumps Yordan cards on a message board

Except you aren't taking Olney's word. You're twisting Olney's word and abusing it.

He said, "I think it's something they now need to consider." He did not say they are considering it. In fact, he specifically said he had NOT heard they are considering it.

[BigSlim16]

For what it's worth, I for one would kind of be glad if they traded Vladdy. His home-road splits were pretty dramatic last season (.716 OPS at home, .858 OPS on the road).

Maybe it could be as simple as him struggling to pick up pitches at home and he could get the Willy Adames treatment

[Triple B]

For those who actually care about this scrub (sell me your high-end, 10 cents on the dollar), he has hired Nicole Gabriel as his personal trainer. She has been credited with working with some of today's stars and bringing out the best in them. Here's hoping she has a minor league park in her back pocket so Vlad can put up some video game numbers, right guys!!!

https://www.sportskeeda.com/baseball...ardio-sessions

[bbteamw]

[ThoseBackPages]

great looking card!

[BigSlim16]

I’ve wanted this card ever since it was released, and the prices are finally low enough where I feel comfortable buying in.

Now, the skeptics may say I should’ve waited for the price to drop even further. But to that I say where’s the fun in that?




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[Biohazarddfl]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

I’ve wanted this card ever since it was released, and the prices are finally low enough where I feel comfortable buying in.

Now, the skeptics may say I should’ve waited for the price to drop even further. But to that I say where’s the fun in that?




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I love this card. I wish there was an on-card rc flagship auto for more players

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[Triple B]

Nicole Gabriel is the personal trainer that Adolis Garcia hired last offseason. Vladdy has been with her right from when the Jays were eliminated.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czl3y...kwcDl4ZnM4bw==

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

I’ve wanted this card ever since it was released, and the prices are finally low enough where I feel comfortable buying in.

Now, the skeptics may say I should’ve waited for the price to drop even further. But to that I say where’s the fun in that?




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Considering that you got it for half what this card used to fetch raw, I think you did okay.


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[RobTheGood]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

I’ve wanted this card ever since it was released, and the prices are finally low enough where I feel comfortable buying in.

Now, the skeptics may say I should’ve waited for the price to drop even further. But to that I say where’s the fun in that?




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welcome to the club it's my favourite Vlad

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Considering that you got it for half what this card used to fetch raw, I think you did okay.

WAY less than half wow. These are $250 now in PSA 10 lol. Didn't they peak at $1500+?

This was everyone's favorite card in this thread once upon a time. You would think all the Guerrero guys in this thread who talk him up and have big Guerrero collections would buy these all at $250 yet they aren't buying, what does that tell you?

[spiffycards]

This thread just inspired me to look for some more cheap Vlads to pick up on eBay. I still like the guy. I know it's nothing huge but I just bought a 2019 Topps NNO for $1.80 BIN. I remember when they were $30+. That just seems crazy to me.

[towerymt]

There's been one PSA-10 to sell for $255 at auction with a damaged/flawed autograph:
https://ebay.com/itm/256271484388

Where are the $250 sales? Where can one purchase this card for $250?

[towerymt]

Peak $2,600 in PSA-10: https://myslabs.com/slab/view/75011/
$2250: https://myslabs.com/slab/view/225083/