**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 704

Geoff G · 09-21-2021, 12:30 PM

Guys.. there’s only 2 logical places Soto ends up .. my team, the Dodgers, or my other team .. the Angels ..

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KhalDrogo · 09-21-2021, 12:31 PM

Soto will get the largest contract in history for yearly average and total dollars. Whatever team is willing to do that is going to end up with him. His style of play is conducive to him being productive for another 15+ years. And he’s still 5+ years away from his peak.

I think he ends up with the Yankees sadly.

Bambino22 · 09-21-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Soto will get the largest contract in history for yearly average and total dollars. Whatever team is willing to do that is going to end up with him. His style of play is conducive to him being productive for another 15+ years. And he’s still 5+ years away from his peak.

I think he ends up with the Yankees sadly.

I hope your.....

Bambino22 · 09-21-2021, 12:44 PM

Wrong! Don't want him on Yankees. But logical place.

michaelstcloud · 09-21-2021, 12:47 PM

Nat always drop the ball when it comes to locking up their young stars early. Braves and Padres were smart to lock up acuna and tatis early for 12.4 M and 24.29 M a year. Their hesitancy lost them Harper, Rendon, Turner. Soto was apparently upset at a point for not being extended, so we'll see how that plays out. He will definitely be expecting a record breaking deal now, and if the Nats offer him that, doesn't appear they have much else to play with since they've let their young stars to slip away. Just an injured aging strasburg on a fat contract.

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michaelstcloud · 09-21-2021, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Soto will get the largest contract in history for yearly average and total dollars. Whatever team is willing to do that is going to end up with him. His style of play is conducive to him being productive for another 15+ years. And he’s still 5+ years away from his peak.

I think he ends up with the Yankees sadly.

Agreed. Yanks are basically a team with huge pockets and completely inept scouting and player development. They're desperate for a young stud like Soto and will shell out the cash if he does make it to Free Agency.

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tconte · 09-21-2021, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff G

Guys.. there’s only 2 logical places Soto ends up .. my team, the Dodgers, or my other team .. the Angels ..

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God help us all if he goes to the Angels. Instant loser at that point.

wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelstcloud

Agreed. Yanks are basically a team with huge pockets and completely inept scouting and player development. They're desperate for a young stud like Soto and will shell out the cash if he does make it to Free Agency.

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You must not have seen the updated top 100 prospects - the Yankees have 4 in the top 100, 2 in the top 20 in Volpe and Dominguez.

KhalDrogo · 09-21-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

You must not have seen the updated top 100 prospects - the Yankees have 4 in the top 100, 2 in the top 20 in Volpe and Dominguez.

Dominguez is top 100 on name alone.

Name three home grown stars for the Yankees in the last 20 years.

wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 02:48 PM

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Dominguez is top 100 on name alone.

Name three home grown stars for the Yankees in the last 20 years.

Define stars...

Dominguez on name alone? Explain that....

michaelstcloud · 09-21-2021, 02:54 PM

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You must not have seen the updated top 100 prospects - the Yankees have 4 in the top 100, 2 in the top 20 in Volpe and Dominguez.

prospects are prospects. lets see if they bust or not. 3 years ago the media was raving about their farm as well, and the only one to make it out alive was Judge, whom also happens to be the only all star outside of Gardner that they've drafted and developed in the last 20 years. Compare that with the Dodgers' current success, largely attributed to excellent drafting and player development + locking in their home grown talent early to extended contracts.

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KhalDrogo · 09-21-2021, 03:10 PM

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Define stars...

Dominguez on name alone? Explain that....

You can just name their three best home grown talents then.

Jasson sucks. Look at the numbers. Has to be dozens of other similarly aged prospects outperforming him this year. Yeah, yeah, he’s young. But the guy has done nothing but hit some practice HRs, get signed by the Yankees, and be an international teenager prospect.

wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 03:28 PM

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You can just name their three best home grown talents then.

Jasson sucks. Look at the numbers. Has to be dozens of other similarly aged prospects outperforming him this year. Yeah, yeah, he’s young. But the guy has done nothing but hit some practice HRs, get signed by the Yankees, and be an international teenager prospect.

Hahah! That's hilarious...and I'm sure there have been plenty of top prospects who have started off slow. So you're going to base that off of 200 AB's??? But I see you're a Yankee hater...

Judge, Gardner, Robertson...

michaelstcloud · 09-21-2021, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

Hahah! That's hilarious...and I'm sure there have been plenty of top prospects who have started off slow. So you're going to base that off of 200 AB's??? But I see you're a Yankee hater...

Judge, Gardner, Robertson...

Im a Yankee fan which is why its good to accept reality. There's only so many 200+ million dollar deals they can continue give out. Trying to sign their core on the open FA market for top dollar and inevitably bad long term contracts is a losing proposition.

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KhalDrogo · 09-21-2021, 03:50 PM

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Hahah! That's hilarious...and I'm sure there have been plenty of top prospects who have started off slow. So you're going to base that off of 200 AB's??? But I see you're a Yankee hater...

Judge, Gardner, Robertson...

Don’t want to get too far off track, but if Brett Gardner is a top 3 home grown prospect in 20 years, your farm system sucks.

Look at what Soto was doing at Jasson’s age. Jasson’s ranking was given on name, not earned on performance.

towerymt · 09-21-2021, 03:58 PM

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Sweet Vintage. There is one on auction right now I'm thinking about.

Why is that a 6? Looks pretty sharp.

A spot of denting on the bottom edge. This card would have cost more had it been raw, with the flaw described and photographed. The '6' grade depressed the price for sure, which was fine by me.

wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Don’t want to get too far off track, but if Brett Gardner is a top 3 home grown prospect in 20 years, your farm system sucks.

Look at what Soto was doing at Jasson’s age. Jasson’s ranking was given on name, not earned on performance.

Still don’t understand how his ranking was given on name only. Obviously, the scouts saw something right? To compare him to Soto isn’t fair - did Soto miss one year of development from Covid?

Regardless the point is they CURRENTLY have four in the top 100…stay on track

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wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelstcloud

Im a Yankee fan which is why its good to accept reality. There's only so many 200+ million dollar deals they can continue give out. Trying to sign their core on the open FA market for top dollar and inevitably bad long term contracts is a losing proposition.

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I don’t disagree with you. I’m not advocating NYY signing big FA’s. They need to allow their top farm talent to develop. But they always have the win now attitude year in and year out which prevents them from allowing their prospects to develop…

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michaelstcloud · 09-21-2021, 04:23 PM

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I don’t disagree with you. I’m not advocating NYY signing big FA’s. They need to allow their top farm talent to develop. But they always have the win now attitude year in and year out which prevents them from allowing their prospects to develop…

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I am not discounting the pressures of the NY media on young players. But Cashman has been particularly desperate as of late. He knows him and Boone's jobs are on the line and opted to trade for Odor, Locastro and play Gardner rather than call up any of their triple A prospects. They're spending way too much this year to be 4th in their own division.

towerymt · 09-21-2021, 05:00 PM

Juan Soto doesn't play for the New York Yankees.

How about some rookie (look) autos in a Nationals uni?

ClevelandIC · 09-21-2021, 05:14 PM

Hey towerymt - I think that Soto 2018 Holiday auto is the number 1 card on my want list right now! Are they numbered out of 10 or 20?

Rabs · 09-21-2021, 05:24 PM

As a Braves fan I hope he does leave. Get him out of the division! Or he’ll pull a Harper and stay in the division. Or he joins Acuna on the Braves. Imagine that.

towerymt · 09-21-2021, 05:36 PM

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Hey towerymt - I think that Soto 2018 Holiday auto is the number 1 card on my want list right now! Are they numbered out of 10 or 20?

20! Was near the top of my list, too.

If you're curious, it auctioned in June, $1,499 opening bid, and I was the only bidder

(it still shows up in the terapeak tool on ebay)

premium1981 · 09-21-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

Hahah! That's hilarious...and I'm sure there have been plenty of top prospects who have started off slow. So you're going to base that off of 200 AB's??? But I see you're a Yankee hater...

Judge, Gardner, Robertson...

He ain’t wrong. Jasson has done nothing to earn his rankings. That may change, but it’s a fact right now.

wharfrat7624 · 09-21-2021, 06:06 PM

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He ain’t wrong. Jasson has done nothing to earn his rankings. That may change, but it’s a fact right now.

Yep but let’s not pretend he’s not the first prospect to get off to a slow start.

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09-21-2021, 12:31 PM	#17577
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,386	Soto will get the largest contract in history for yearly average and total dollars. Whatever team is willing to do that is going to end up with him. His style of play is conducive to him being productive for another 15+ years. And he’s still 5+ years away from his peak. I think he ends up with the Yankees sadly. __________________ I love PSA!

09-21-2021, 12:44 PM	#17579
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,576	Wrong! Don't want him on Yankees. But logical place. __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

09-21-2021, 05:00 PM	#17595
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,855	Juan Soto doesn't play for the New York Yankees. How about some rookie (look) autos in a Nationals uni? __________________ In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum

09-21-2021, 05:14 PM	#17596
ClevelandIC Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Westlake, Ohio Posts: 5,483 Jakpi20 Jakpi20	Hey towerymt - I think that Soto 2018 Holiday auto is the number 1 card on my want list right now! Are they numbered out of 10 or 20? __________________ Always buying GU/Autos to resell to Blowout. Would love to add them to any deal we do so please let me know what you have!

09-21-2021, 05:24 PM	#17597
Rabs Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 16,120 Rabs	As a Braves fan I hope he does leave. Get him out of the division! Or he’ll pull a Harper and stay in the division. Or he joins Acuna on the Braves. Imagine that. __________________ Sean Taylor/Craig Kimbrel/Brian Orakpo Collector! https://sportscardalbum.com/u/rabs

09-21-2021, 12:30 PM	#17576
Geoff G Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Ventura Posts: 1,436	Guys.. there’s only 2 logical places Soto ends up .. my team, the Dodgers, or my other team .. the Angels .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-21-2021, 12:47 PM	#17580
michaelstcloud Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 161 michaelstcloud michaelstcloud	Nat always drop the ball when it comes to locking up their young stars early. Braves and Padres were smart to lock up acuna and tatis early for 12.4 M and 24.29 M a year. Their hesitancy lost them Harper, Rendon, Turner. Soto was apparently upset at a point for not being extended, so we'll see how that plays out. He will definitely be expecting a record breaking deal now, and if the Nats offer him that, doesn't appear they have much else to play with since they've let their young stars to slip away. Just an injured aging strasburg on a fat contract. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk