Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by BlowoutBuzz

But who has the true premiums?

It depends of if the card is a rookie card or an insert...

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

It depends of if the card is a rookie card or an insert...

That was the whole point of his joke…

[jasonm2121]

What is all the confusion over BPs? You think an auction house is just going to list cards and collectibles and make no money? Sounds like a solid business model.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

That was the whole point of his joke…

Sarcasm is hard

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

What is all the confusion over BPs? You think an auction house is just going to list cards and collectibles and make no money? Sounds like a solid business model.

There is no confusion. Just one individual that has trouble understanding.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

What is all the confusion over BPs? You think an auction house is just going to list cards and collectibles and make no money? Sounds like a solid business model.

The buyer is paying the premium, the auction makes $ from a percentage of the sale price. Explain eBay then, they don’t have BP

No one is confused over it, it’s just a just because charge

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

What is all the confusion over BPs? You think an auction house is just going to list cards and collectibles and make no money? Sounds like a solid business model.

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

There is no confusion. Just one individual that has trouble understanding.

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

The buyer is paying the premium, the auction makes $ from a percentage of the sale price. Explain eBay then, they don’t have BP

Can somebody else try and explain. I kind of exhausted.

[6GOAT789]

BP is an additional charge to the buyer, some auction places have them, some don’t. Up to the buyer if they wish to bid/pay it or not. Some places may have a card with the BP that others don’t, so that’s why they would be willing to pay extra. Especially if they have a lot of $ already. Others stick to eBay without the BP

That’s basically it. Hope that clears it up TJ! Pretty easy

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Sarcasm is hard

Just a dumb unnecessary comment since everyone knew the joke

[BlowoutBuzz]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

The buyer is paying the premium, the auction makes $ from a percentage of the sale price. Explain eBay then, they don’t have BP

No one is confused over it, it’s just a just because charge

Auction houses charge the premium to get paid -- they don't take that fee out of the bid price paid to the seller. It's an extra charge.

eBay takes its fees out of the money going to the seller.

[BlowoutBuzz]

Originally Posted by onepocketj

sarcasm is hard

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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

BP is an additional charge to the buyer, some auction places have them, some don’t. Up to the buyer if they wish to bid/pay it or not. Some places may have a card with the BP that others don’t, so that’s why they would be willing to pay extra. Especially if they have a lot of $ already. Others stick to eBay without the BP

That’s basically it. Hope that clears it up TJ! Pretty easy

But it's essentially the same thing when you bid on eBay and they take they 13.25% sellers fee for themselves. The only difference is it's hidden in the overall fee instead of tacked on in the end. Any informed buyer who realizes that there is a buyer premium can easily do that math.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by tjforce

But it's essentially the same thing when you bid on eBay and they take they 13.25% sellers fee for themselves. The only difference is it's hidden in the overall fee instead of tacked on in the end. Any informed buyer who realizes that there is a buyer premium can easily do that math.

But the buyer and seller are obviously different

Yea or no, does eBay have buyers premium?

I’m talking about the buyers POV

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by BlowoutBuzz

Auction houses charge the premium to get paid -- they don't take that fee out of the bid price paid to the seller. It's an extra charge.

eBay takes its fees out of the money going to the seller.

Not every auction house does

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

But the buyer and seller are obviously different

Yea or no, does eBay have buyers premium?

I’m talking about the buyers POV

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Weird response to a yea or no question

Answer is no

[jasonm2121]

Pretty difficult to understand:


Covering operational costs:
Auctions involve significant expenses such as advertising, venue rental, staff salaries, and the cost of maintaining bidding platforms. The buyer's premium helps to offset these costs, ensuring the auction can be held and run efficiently.

Ensuring fair contribution:
By charging a premium, all participants contribute to the overall cost of the auction, making it a more equitable system.

Incentivizing higher bids:
Some argue that the premium can also incentivize higher bidding, as the auction house benefits from a higher final price.

Facilitating future auctions.
The revenue generated through buyer's premiums allows auction houses to continue operating and offer future auctions, benefiting both buyers and sellers.

[daveyc1]

a BGS 8.5/10 contenders rookie ticket just sold at auction on ebay yesterday. final price was $20k. this is the same grade that a 2000 Bowman Chrome Refractor Brady just sold for last week. the Refractor sold at auction on ebay for $24k.

that is an exact comp just a few days apart. has the Chrome Refractor overtaken the Rookie ticket in popularity/price? or was this a one time sale thing.

I think this may be the new trend. we shall see.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

a BGS 8.5/10 contenders rookie ticket just sold at auction on ebay yesterday. final price was $20k. this is the same grade that a 2000 Bowman Chrome Refractor Brady just sold for last week. the Refractor sold at auction on ebay for $24k.

that is an exact comp just a few days apart. has the Chrome Refractor overtaken the Rookie ticket in popularity/price? or was this a one time sale thing.

I think this may be the new trend. we shall see.

It probably depends on the grade:

BGS 8.5
Contenders: Pop 315
BC Ref: Pop 101

BGS 9.0
Contenders: Pop 249
BC Ref: 85

BGS 9.5
Contenders: Pop 15
BC Ref: 32

I'm willing to bet that a Contenders BGS 9.5 does more than the BC Ref. But there are a lot more low grade Contenders than there are even BC Ref's made.

Regardless, these cards are close and all things being equal the BC Ref is probably the better card, just due to the low print run.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

a BGS 8.5/10 contenders rookie ticket just sold at auction on ebay yesterday. final price was $20k. this is the same grade that a 2000 Bowman Chrome Refractor Brady just sold for last week. the Refractor sold at auction on ebay for $24k.

that is an exact comp just a few days apart. has the Chrome Refractor overtaken the Rookie ticket in popularity/price? or was this a one time sale thing.

I think this may be the new trend. we shall see.

So just to clarify, since it was on eBay, how much was the buyers premium? Since people are acting like every auction house has it

[TeeBee12]

Has to be, right?

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Pretty difficult to understand:


Covering operational costs:
Auctions involve significant expenses such as advertising, venue rental, staff salaries, and the cost of maintaining bidding platforms. The buyer's premium helps to offset these costs, ensuring the auction can be held and run efficiently.

Ensuring fair contribution:
By charging a premium, all participants contribute to the overall cost of the auction, making it a more equitable system.

Incentivizing higher bids:
Some argue that the premium can also incentivize higher bidding, as the auction house benefits from a higher final price.

Facilitating future auctions.
The revenue generated through buyer's premiums allows auction houses to continue operating and offer future auctions, benefiting both buyers and sellers.

As a serious question, why doesn’t every auction house have the BP?

People act like that’s some crazy question

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

a BGS 8.5/10 contenders rookie ticket just sold at auction on ebay yesterday. final price was $20k. this is the same grade that a 2000 Bowman Chrome Refractor Brady just sold for last week. the Refractor sold at auction on ebay for $24k.

that is an exact comp just a few days apart. has the Chrome Refractor overtaken the Rookie ticket in popularity/price? or was this a one time sale thing.

I think this may be the new trend. we shall see.

Funny to compare cards where sales don’t even happen that often

From exactly a year from now, 4.5, over or under that many sales on the refractor? Either way lol

[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

As a serious question, why doesn’t every auction house have the BP?

People act like that’s some crazy question

I can't believe I'm responding as I told myself I wouldn't but let me explain it to you.....hopefully you get it. I doubt it but you never know.

Every place makes money some how, whether they call it a "buyers premium" or they just take it out of the final price...they make their money.

From the buyers point of view, depending on which site/platform you're buying from will dictate the max you will bid. For instance, if I would bid $120 on a card on eBay then I'd probably only bid $100 at a site that tacks on 20% after the auction, making my final paid price the same. People factor in all of this when bidding at different sites. Whether it's eBay, Goldin, etc.... they all get a piece of the pie....it's just semantics on how they do it and what they call it. So to summarize, eBay doesn't technically have a "buyers premium" tacked on at the end but if they hypothetically did then people would adjust (likely down) how much they bid so that the end cost (to the buyer) is the same.

I hope that finally makes sense. Probably not but one can hope.

Now......let's get back to talking Brady cards and showing cool stuff. That's what I'm hear for.....not the school lessons

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

Now......let's get back to talking Brady cards and showing cool stuff. That's what I'm hear for.....not the school lessons

You're right... let's talk something more important.


Hypothetical scenario: We're replaying the plot of the movie The Matrix one more time. It's Sunday Feb 5, 2017. Do you once again send Neo back out of the Matrix to Zion to try and defeat the machines for the 7th time, or do you pull Tom Brady from Super Bowl 51 before kickoff to successfully lead the human race to victory over the machines once and for all, and if he does, what does that do for his best rookie cards?