MUST READ TRIMMING THREAD: COMC- HawkDynasty,cccardfactory,LORDSTANLEY2012|PWCC|ih8ca - Page 76

signed79 · 10-16-2019, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip

You don't think the vast majority of what they do is sloppy and obvious?

Fooled nearly everyone until BODA came along.

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:20 PM

Why are cards like this still for sale on COMC?

Answer: They don't care.

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:21 PM

The card would literally have to be miscut to have a right edge that short.

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:23 PM

The one two certs away looks about the same. All Hawk cards.

In fact, nearly every PSA 10 Matthews for sale is a Hawk card.

corndog · 10-16-2019, 08:24 PM

PSA Cert #24787581

1964 Topps Willie McCovey #350

Value gain of $304.55

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 8 for $56.00 on June 18, 2015.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $360.55 on October 11, 2015.
VCP link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1173603

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mint39

As a small seller on comc- i am happy with the statement !
mint39

Happy to keep selling all those Matthews cards too?

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:33 PM

Not 2.5" L/R. Not even close.

3124508 on COMC · 10-16-2019, 08:40 PM

T/B

corndog · 10-16-2019, 08:58 PM

PSA Cert #23739877

1964 Topps Willie McCovey #350

Value gain of $199.19

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller glibersher as a PSA 8 for $56.00 on October 20, 2014.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $255.19 on February 08, 2015.
PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1067924

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and top edges.

corndog · 10-17-2019, 03:30 AM

PSA Cert #24989785

1968 Topps Willie Mays #50

Value gain of $683.00

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller kbizandstuff as a PSA 8 for $220.00 on September 21, 2015.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $903.00 on December 10, 2015.
PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1196312

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

pip · 10-17-2019, 08:38 AM

At some point we have to wonder -- is there anything that card-buyer didn't trim?

chezball · 10-17-2019, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip

At some point we have to wonder -- is there anything that card-buyer didn't trim?

Why hasn't he been banned yet?

VeedonFleece · 10-17-2019, 11:37 AM

Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

corndog · 10-17-2019, 02:50 PM

PSA Cert #24787568

1964 Topps Hank Aaron #300

Value gain of $1,811.50

Current PSA Registry Sets:
This cert is currently in Set Registry inventory and is featured in one or more sets, including Saints73.

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 7 for $113.50 on July 07, 2015.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $1,925.00 on October 11, 2015.
PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1173595

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top and bottom edges.

andrew121 · 10-17-2019, 02:56 PM

What is the likelihood that this was trimmed?

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2099844

HarryLime · 10-17-2019, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew121

What is the likelihood that this was trimmed?

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2099844

Uninsignificant.

Arthur

mrdallas · 10-17-2019, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew121

What is the likelihood that this was trimmed?

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2099844

That particular card (Jeter Mirror Gold) would honestly have zero effect on pricing... See Jordan PMG Green for example. There are those cards that the only people who can afford to buy them, don't care. To them it is about having the card no matter what has happened to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

Is this the same Superior sports invesments with Bill Sheet? I thought that COMC would be more proactive getting rid of people like this

Did UD make mini's?? That is ridiculous

https://www.comc.com/Users/SuperiorS.../Graded/BGS/10

I am sure this has been mentioned before. But I was looking for some cards on the COMC and saw this crap. I figure COMC would ban these types at some point

ken161 · 10-17-2019, 06:21 PM

Another one gets by the hapless PSA goalkeepers. This was the equivalent of a wrist shot from the red line that froze Joe Orlando's stunned "experts."

Never get cheated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by corndog

PSA Cert #24787568

1964 Topps Hank Aaron #300

Value gain of $1,811.50

Current PSA Registry Sets:
This cert is currently in Set Registry inventory and is featured in one or more sets, including Saints73.

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 7 for $113.50 on July 07, 2015.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $1,925.00 on October 11, 2015.
PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1173595

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top and bottom edges.

cking · 10-18-2019, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

He is trying to do something that is good for the hobby and you feel the need to give him a hard time.

At least he is trying.

If you want to roll over and allow PSA to rip you off, go for it.

But you should not be knocking others who are trying to do the right thing to help make the hobby a safer place for all of us.

Bruins1993 · 10-18-2019, 01:24 AM

Hey Tim G. how is that coding coming along to detect trimming/altered cards?

Have you notified a SINGLE person that bought an altered card from your site proactively?

Trick or treat?

HarryLime · 10-18-2019, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

Is this person affiliated with COMC?

Arthur

Lonewolf · 10-18-2019, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

You mean the exposure of outright fraud and deceit? It's coming along well. By the level of butthurt in your tone you might have a personal stake in the shadiness perhaps?

Bruins1993 · 10-18-2019, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken161

Another one gets by the hapless PSA goalkeepers. This was the equivalent of a wrist shot from the red line that froze Joe Orlando's stunned "experts."

Never get cheated.

”Buy the Finest Quality You Can Afford” - Joe Orlando

"Grading is not conducted in a science lab. It is simply humans looking at collectibles." - Joe Orlando

MoreToppsPlease · 10-18-2019, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins1993

”Grading is not conducted in a science lab. It is simply humans looking at collectibles." - Joe Orlando

Ha, I’m sure people are comfortable with grading being subjective “art” and not objective “science”.

cardsrus1 · 10-18-2019, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins1993

Hey Tim G. how is that coding coming along to detect trimming/altered cards?

Have you notified a SINGLE person that bought an altered card from your site proactively?

Trick or treat?

Check their twitter feed, they "caught" someone switching a one color jersey swatch for....

another one color jersey swatch! You cannot make this "stuff" up!

10-16-2019, 08:20 PM	#1877
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,487	Why are cards like this still for sale on COMC? Answer: They don't care. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

10-16-2019, 08:21 PM	#1878
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,487	The card would literally have to be miscut to have a right edge that short. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

10-16-2019, 08:23 PM	#1879
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,487	The one two certs away looks about the same. All Hawk cards. In fact, nearly every PSA 10 Matthews for sale is a Hawk card. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

10-16-2019, 08:24 PM	#1880
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,191	PSA Cert #24787581 1964 Topps Willie McCovey #350 Value gain of $304.55 This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 8 for $56.00 on June 18, 2015. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $360.55 on October 11, 2015. VCP link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1173603 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

10-16-2019, 08:33 PM	#1882
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,487	Not 2.5" L/R. Not even close. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

10-16-2019, 08:40 PM	#1883
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,487	T/B __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud Last edited by 3124508 on COMC; 10-16-2019 at 08:44 PM.

10-16-2019, 08:58 PM	#1884
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,191	PSA Cert #23739877 1964 Topps Willie McCovey #350 Value gain of $199.19 This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller glibersher as a PSA 8 for $56.00 on October 20, 2014. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $255.19 on February 08, 2015. PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1067924 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and top edges. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

10-17-2019, 03:30 AM	#1885
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,191	PSA Cert #24989785 1968 Topps Willie Mays #50 Value gain of $683.00 This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller kbizandstuff as a PSA 8 for $220.00 on September 21, 2015. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $903.00 on December 10, 2015. PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1196312 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

10-17-2019, 08:38 AM	#1886
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	At some point we have to wonder -- is there anything that card-buyer *didn't* trim?

10-17-2019, 11:37 AM	#1888
VeedonFleece Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The 01246 Posts: 3,896 veedonfleece	Not looked at this for a few weeks. How is the vendetta against COMC going? You sure as hell don't seem to be putting anyone off using PSA.

10-17-2019, 02:50 PM	#1889
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,191	PSA Cert #24787568 1964 Topps Hank Aaron #300 Value gain of $1,811.50 Current PSA Registry Sets: This cert is currently in Set Registry inventory and is featured in one or more sets, including Saints73. This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 7 for $113.50 on July 07, 2015. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 for $1,925.00 on October 11, 2015. PWCC link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1173595 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed top and bottom edges. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 10-17-2019 at 02:53 PM.

10-17-2019, 02:56 PM	#1890
andrew121 Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 25	What is the likelihood that this was trimmed? https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2099844

10-18-2019, 01:24 AM	#1895
Bruins1993 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Stuck inside of Mobile Posts: 1,296	Hey Tim G. how is that coding coming along to detect trimming/altered cards? Have you notified a SINGLE person that bought an altered card from your site proactively? Trick or treat? __________________ #nevergetcheated Riiiiiiiiight Last edited by Bruins1993; 10-18-2019 at 01:56 AM.