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Old 05-13-2021, 10:18 AM   #19001
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The problem I think that could happen for f1 (probably not the initial release tho) is there won’t really be rookies to chase being that it’s such a small field and not a great amount of turnover. How valuable will non rookies be of these guys going forward? Even the bigger guys, don’t think it’s sustainable value wise


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I agree..... can’t compare this to the soccer sapphire.
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:28 AM   #19002
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LOL, my FedEx package went two steps forward and then went back one. Too bad you cant intercept the packages. I'd be willing to do the drive.
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:59 AM   #19003
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Hits from 1st 5. Stashing auto for now, threw parallels to auction. My 2nd 5 are on the way.



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Old 05-13-2021, 11:11 AM   #19004
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Just to clarify, are you referencing future releases (2021, etc.)?


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Yeah. Going forward. I think they’ll struggle to keep it fresh if it’s basically the same guys being the ones to get with no rookies to chase. The f2 cards aren’t being chased. It’s going to be mostly the same field. 3 of the 4 podiums so far this year were identical.


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Old 05-13-2021, 11:18 AM   #19005
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Yeah. Going forward. I think they’ll struggle to keep it fresh if it’s basically the same guys being the ones to get with no rookies to chase. The f2 cards aren’t being chased. It’s going to be mostly the same field. 3 of the 4 podiums so far this year were identical.


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Old 05-13-2021, 11:59 AM   #19006
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The problem I think that could happen for f1 (probably not the initial release tho) is there won’t really be rookies to chase being that it’s such a small field and not a great amount of turnover. How valuable will non rookies be of these guys going forward? Even the bigger guys, don’t think it’s sustainable value wise


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While it wont affect the 2020 releases.....this is an accurate take.

Unfortunately what we have right now, is a mix of people educated on F1, or people educated on the hobby. There isnt a ton of both on the boards. Salthill, Myself and few others were sounding the F1 horns long before most the guys in the F1 threads even joined here.

Some of the guys get really mad when you talk about it falling into the NASCAR box. But in terms of names to pump out, its going to struggle.

AS its stands at the moment (and it could change) the only real impact move were looking at for 2022 is potentially Bottas out at Mercedes--and George Russell in. Kimi likely retires, but thats a back marker car at Alpha Romeo.

The industry has not really bought into the F2 cards at XRC's at this point, as the next best guy that isn't named Schumacher is selling for.....ehh $20 ish.

Thats a red flag, and the prices cards and parallels outside of Hamilton, Lando, Verstappen and to an extent Rusell are seeing are concerning. Not for making profit on a box, thats still relatively easy---but for long term future values.

If Hamilton secondary cards are already at $20 (They mostly arent moving or are selling around here)---That doesnt boost confidence that the market can be carried by hamilton in future years....especially at this price.

That said--flagship year product will always hold value well.

TLDR 2020 F1--buy away. 2021 -- beware.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:02 PM   #19007
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While it wont affect the 2020 releases.....this is an accurate take.

Unfortunately what we have right now, is a mix of people educated on F1, or people educated on the hobby. There isnt a ton of both on the boards. Salthill, Myself and few others were sounding the F1 horns long before most the guys in the F1 threads even joined here.

Some of the guys get really mad when you talk about it falling into the NASCAR box. But in terms of names to pump out, its going to struggle.

AS its stands at the moment (and it could change) the only real impact move were looking at for 2022 is potentially Bottas out at Mercedes--and George Russell in. Kimi likely retires, but thats a back marker car at Alpha Romeo.

The industry has not really bought into the F2 cards at XRC's at this point, as the next best guy that isn't named Schumacher is selling for.....ehh $20 ish.

Thats a red flag, and the prices cards and parallels outside of Hamilton, Lando, Verstappen and to an extent Rusell are seeing are concerning. Not for making profit on a box, thats still relatively easy---but for long term future values.

If Hamilton secondary cards are already at $20 (They mostly arent moving or are selling around here)---That doesnt boost confidence that the market can be carried by hamilton in future years....especially at this price.

That said--flagship year product will always hold value well.

TLDR 2020 F1--buy away. 2021 -- beware.
As someone who really knows nothing about the sport, but am intrigued and have watched a couple races in the last two weekends, I really appreciate you sharing this insight. Thank you!
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:11 PM   #19008
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What are you going to do with them?
Nothing really exciting going on with football and I suspect the market may get flooded quickly. Strong Hold. He comes out and tosses a couple preseason TD's these will go up quick.

Might float ten in the 'sealed' post box out there and see if I can drive up the bin prices since some of our less ethical members weighed boxes and made that a thing.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:13 PM   #19009
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Yeah I agree with your take dbacks. Interesting point about team switches but that certainly won’t be enough. From the looks of the presale box display they’ve come up with a new insert, it’ll be easier for people to colllect their guys at a cheaper price. Definitely won’t be super profitable. But yeah this year is good to go regardless. I’m surprised I’m getting no bites on a gold sp image variation sapphire of Vettel. 4 time champion


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Old 05-13-2021, 12:18 PM   #19010
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Yeah I agree with your take dbacks. Interesting point about team switches but that certainly won’t be enough. From the looks of the presale box display they’ve come up with a new insert, it’ll be easier for people to colllect their guys at a cheaper price. Definitely won’t be super profitable. But yeah this year is good to go regardless. I’m surprised I’m getting no bites on a gold sp image variation sapphire of Vettel. 4 time champion


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Do yourself a favor---if you dont get a price you really like for that card....tuck it away. He is a top 10 All timer. He is suffering from 'recent-ism'. When he retires his stuff will get a big bump.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:00 PM   #19011
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While it wont affect the 2020 releases.....this is an accurate take.

Unfortunately what we have right now, is a mix of people educated on F1, or people educated on the hobby. There isnt a ton of both on the boards. Salthill, Myself and few others were sounding the F1 horns long before most the guys in the F1 threads even joined here.

Some of the guys get really mad when you talk about it falling into the NASCAR box. But in terms of names to pump out, its going to struggle.

AS its stands at the moment (and it could change) the only real impact move were looking at for 2022 is potentially Bottas out at Mercedes--and George Russell in. Kimi likely retires, but thats a back marker car at Alpha Romeo.

The industry has not really bought into the F2 cards at XRC's at this point, as the next best guy that isn't named Schumacher is selling for.....ehh $20 ish.

Thats a red flag, and the prices cards and parallels outside of Hamilton, Lando, Verstappen and to an extent Rusell are seeing are concerning. Not for making profit on a box, thats still relatively easy---but for long term future values.

If Hamilton secondary cards are already at $20 (They mostly arent moving or are selling around here)---That doesnt boost confidence that the market can be carried by hamilton in future years....especially at this price.

That said--flagship year product will always hold value well.

TLDR 2020 F1--buy away. 2021 -- beware.

This is spectacular. Thanks!


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Old 05-13-2021, 02:33 PM   #19012
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F1 sapphire arrived via Fedex Home Delivery. Left Pittston, PA on 5/6 and arrived today in northern CA.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:38 PM   #19013
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got both of my f1's, still waiting on my 10 TL boxes and 10 jeter x boxes.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:46 PM   #19014
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The tracking I received is from FedEx directly. From their shipping notification system. Not from Topps directly.

The tracking is not even updated on my Topps order. I was able to match it via order # from FedEx.
So don’t loose hope guys. It’s coming.
I received notification for my Montgomery 5, as well.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:47 PM   #19015
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Got tracking on the Bowman Value Boxes.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:54 PM   #19016
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Fed Ex Experience continues. I had hope this morning, as my shipment (not Topps product), was listed as on-vehicle and out for delivery in my town. Scheduled delivery was Today.
A couple hours later, my package is still floating around town, and expected delivery is listed as Friday.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:55 PM   #19017
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Today was a day to remember.

Had a personal/relationship issue to deal with this morning.

FedEx delivered the 5 TL boxes I ordered via presale this afternoon.

Still full of various emotions from the morning, I decided to open a box.

The second card in was an auto.

It is numbered 1/5.

I’ll post a photo in a bit.

Quite the day.



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Old 05-13-2021, 03:45 PM   #19018
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Is anyone else still waiting for the TL boxes from Montgomery Club preorder? Mine still shows as processing.
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Old 05-13-2021, 03:51 PM   #19019
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Is anyone else still waiting for the TL boxes from Montgomery Club preorder? Mine still shows as processing.

Nope, still waiting as well


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Old 05-13-2021, 04:12 PM   #19020
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Looking to finish 2 sets of TL......have some dupes and triples......pm me if you want to do some old fashioned trading to finish sets!

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Old 05-13-2021, 04:22 PM   #19021
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Today was a day to remember.

Had a personal/relationship issue to deal with this morning.

FedEx delivered the 5 TL boxes I ordered via presale this afternoon.

Still full of various emotions from the morning, I decided to open a box.

The second card in was an auto.

It is numbered 1/5.

I’ll post a photo in a bit.

Quite the day.


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Old 05-13-2021, 05:06 PM   #19022
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I'm still waiting on 5 of the TL and 3 BVB team sets.

I was also looking at the three big online retailers and it looks like they are buying less of the MC boxes right now. BO has removed most of theirs from the wanted page.
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Old 05-13-2021, 05:07 PM   #19023
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Daily Update for me........


Still Processing on the Trevor boxes for me, ordered during MC presale.





That is all, I did have an Andrew Thomas (NY Giants) Select Gold /10 delivered today to look forward too (ebay, and I'm at work right now)
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Old 05-13-2021, 05:32 PM   #19024
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got both of my f1's, still waiting on my 10 TL boxes and 10 jeter x boxes.
I can understand the wait on the Jeter "2021 Topps X" boxes (I bought ten), but how about the wait on the "2021 MLB Network's Top 100" that I ordered on Feb. 9th?

At least my five TL boxes have shipped.
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Old 05-13-2021, 05:48 PM   #19025
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I can understand the wait on the Jeter "2021 Topps X" boxes (I bought ten), but how about the wait on the "2021 MLB Network's Top 100" that I ordered on Feb. 9th?

At least my five TL boxes have shipped.

The mlb network cards was in the description something like 8 weeks after the season starts or something. Those weren’t shipping right away


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