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Old 07-29-2023, 11:04 PM   #19026
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Biggot? You mean, bigot? No. And you might wanna recheck your dictionary on the meaning of that word. But biased? Yes, absolutely. PSA is a terrible, terrible, terrible company.

I see it time and again in my own orders, 6s and 8s on cards I was expected 9s and 10s, and then I crack them and resubmit, and I get 9s and 10s. You see it right here in this thread just a few posts up... WITH pictures, wise guy.

It's not a mystery. Nor is it discrimination or racism against the so-called "professionals" who work there. LMAO. Seriously, what the heck dude?

Sorry if you work there. I don't hate *you* in particular. Just your terrible company.
- I was typing on my cell. I got an extrta G in there. Toooootally changes the sentiment of what I said. I'm kidding... No, it doesn't.

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"a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group."

- PSA is a group. You are blanketly, unreasonably prejudiced against them. It has nothing to do with discrimination or racism in the sense of how I used the word.

- You don't get the grades you expect so PSA is a trash coompany? PSA misgrades cards on occassion (LIKE EVERY OTHER GRADING COMPANY?) so they are a trash & "terrible terrible" company? Oooook. You have an axe to grind due to your grading results. It has nothing to do with anything other than that.

- I don't work there or am affiliated with them in any way, shape, or form. We have used all 3 major grading companies. They all have issues.

- Now, go read about Joe Clemons & BGS. Here's an article & a youtube video at the bottom. Enjoy: https://www.sportscardradio.com/form...-grading-scam/

- And then go read about SGC & their president/partner/owner Dave Foreman and his card trimming. Go to 1.39 and soak it all in... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYQV9aYNzkg

And then come tell me how PSA is "trash". Given the circumstances of the rapid card boom and the people behind the company the past few years PSA looks like the better run business by a mile. Yet, you got some bad grades so it's trash and a "terrible terrible" (you really doubled down on that?) company? Come on, bud.

There are things the grading industry can do across the board to be better for consumers. That doesn't make 1 company trash when all 3 aren't perfect.
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Old 07-30-2023, 11:21 AM   #19027
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Biggot? You mean, bigot? No. And you might wanna recheck your dictionary on the meaning of that word. But biased? Yes, absolutely. PSA is a terrible, terrible, terrible company.

I see it time and again in my own orders, 6s and 8s on cards I was expected 9s and 10s, and then I crack them and resubmit, and I get 9s and 10s. You see it right here in this thread just a few posts up... WITH pictures, wise guy.

It's not a mystery. Nor is it discrimination or racism against the so-called "professionals" who work there. LMAO. Seriously, what the heck dude?

Sorry if you work there. I don't hate *you* in particular. Just your terrible company.
Glad I saw this one before setting that member to ignore. His posts in the SGC thread are just as comical.

Either an employee or the biggest cheerleader PSA has seen. Hope his orders come with knee pads 😂
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Old 07-30-2023, 12:51 PM   #19028
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- I was typing on my cell. I got an extrta G in there. Toooootally changes the sentiment of what I said. I'm kidding... No, it doesn't.

Bigot Defined By Google
"a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group."

- PSA is a group. You are blanketly, unreasonably prejudiced against them. It has nothing to do with discrimination or racism in the sense of how I used the word.

- You don't get the grades you expect so PSA is a trash coompany? PSA misgrades cards on occassion (LIKE EVERY OTHER GRADING COMPANY?) so they are a trash & "terrible terrible" company? Oooook. You have an axe to grind due to your grading results. It has nothing to do with anything other than that.

- I don't work there or am affiliated with them in any way, shape, or form. We have used all 3 major grading companies. They all have issues.

- Now, go read about Joe Clemons & BGS. Here's an article & a youtube video at the bottom. Enjoy: https://www.sportscardradio.com/form...-grading-scam/

- And then go read about SGC & their president/partner/owner Dave Foreman and his card trimming. Go to 1.39 and soak it all in... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYQV9aYNzkg

And then come tell me how PSA is "trash". Given the circumstances of the rapid card boom and the people behind the company the past few years PSA looks like the better run business by a mile. Yet, you got some bad grades so it's trash and a "terrible terrible" (you really doubled down on that?) company? Come on, bud.

There are things the grading industry can do across the board to be better for consumers. That doesn't make 1 company trash when all 3 aren't perfect.
Brother, if you need to google the dictionary definition (and spelling) of the word 'bigot," then we need to hit pause here and stop talking about baseball cards for a minute.

A bigot is a POS who discriminates against people because of their race or religion... like countless white people against black and brown people, basically since the beginning of time, or Nazis and Neo-Nazis against Jewish people. There are many other examples, but these are two important ones.

Decidedly not on the list of bigots, however, are people who prefer one third-party baseball card grading company over another.

***For you to call me a bigot in this context equivocates what real bigotry is. It's like playing offense for racists and Nazis. This is a very real thing. It's called moral equivocation, and it sucks. Please look it up.***

And to be absolutely clear, I did not call PSA a "terrible terrible" company, as you quoted me, TWICE, in your response. I called them a "terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE" company.
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Old 07-30-2023, 01:11 PM   #19029
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Brother, if you need to google the dictionary definition (and spelling) of the word 'bigot," then we need to hit pause here and stop talking about baseball cards for a minute.

A bigot is a POS who discriminates against people because of their race or religion... like countless white people against black and brown people, basically since the beginning of time, or Nazis and Neo-Nazis against Jewish people. There are many other examples, but these are two important ones.

Decidedly not on the list of bigots, however, are people who prefer one third-party baseball card grading company over another.

***For you to call me a bigot in this context equivocates what real bigotry is. It's like playing offense for racists and Nazis. This is a very real thing. It's called moral equivocation, and it sucks. Please look it up.***

And to be absolutely clear, I did not call PSA a "terrible terrible" company, as you quoted me, TWICE, in your response. I called them a "terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE" company.
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Old 07-30-2023, 04:55 PM   #19030
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PSA is #1 for a reason and there will always be grading mistakes, bias, or negative feedback. “heavyweights the crown”.As long as PSA is the king… well just have to exercise good faith.
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:05 PM   #19031
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Brother, if you need to google the dictionary definition (and spelling) of the word 'bigot," then we need to hit pause here and stop talking about baseball cards for a minute.

A bigot is a POS who discriminates against people because of their race or religion... like countless white people against black and brown people, basically since the beginning of time, or Nazis and Neo-Nazis against Jewish people. There are many other examples, but these are two important ones.

Decidedly not on the list of bigots, however, are people who prefer one third-party baseball card grading company over another.

***For you to call me a bigot in this context equivocates what real bigotry is. It's like playing offense for racists and Nazis. This is a very real thing. It's called moral equivocation, and it sucks. Please look it up.***

And to be absolutely clear, I did not call PSA a "terrible terrible" company, as you quoted me, TWICE, in your response. I called them a "terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE" company.
LOL, I Googled and put the definition up there for YOU, not me.

- Where does the definition say Nazis? Or Jewish people? Or Neo-Nazis? Race & Religion? YOU are adding that stuff in. The definition of the word doesn't have that stuff in there. It doesn't even have the word discriminate in it. Yet, there you go just tossing it in to suit your pearl clutching... And then you throw in shade on "Countless White People"? Pffffft! Bigot much? Weird how racists & bigots are hypocrites, too, isn't it?

You have unreasonable prejudice against PSA and are being antagonistic towards PSA members. Period. You're in a PSA thread sniffing around and making crappy comments when you admittedly hate them. Why? because I'm sure somewhere along the line Nat took a dump on a sub you had. You're such a biggot towards anything they do and the people that use them that you even unreasonably (from the definition I gave you) refuse to acknowledge (and I'm sure not even read or watch) the spoon fed info I gave you where other major companies have some serious questions regarding their ethics.

Good luck with all of that.
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:06 PM   #19032
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PSA is #1 for a reason and there will always be grading mistakes, bias, or negative feedback. “heavyweights the crown”.As long as PSA is the king… well just have to exercise good faith.
EXACTLY!
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:10 PM   #19033
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Glad I saw this one before setting that member to ignore. His posts in the SGC thread are just as comical.

Either an employee or the biggest cheerleader PSA has seen. Hope his orders come with knee pads 😂
It's not "The SGC Thread". You posted a special SGC is running and I nicely pointed out that it was incredibly specific and designed to grab 2023 baseball flipper business, which I didn't think was good for the hobby.... You got big mad and couldn't continue the conversation points - your wires got crossed so you put me on ignore.
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:44 PM   #19034
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LOL, I Googled and put the definition up there for YOU, not me.

- Where does the definition say Nazis? Or Jewish people? Or Neo-Nazis? Race & Religion? YOU are adding that stuff in. The definition of the word doesn't have that stuff in there. It doesn't even have the word discriminate in it. Yet, there you go just tossing it in to suit your pearl clutching... And then you throw in shade on "Countless White People"? Pffffft! Bigot much? Weird how racists & bigots are hypocrites, too, isn't it?

You have unreasonable prejudice against PSA and are being antagonistic towards PSA members. Period. You're in a PSA thread sniffing around and making crappy comments when you admittedly hate them. Why? because I'm sure somewhere along the line Nat took a dump on a sub you had. You're such a biggot towards anything they do and the people that use them that you even unreasonably (from the definition I gave you) refuse to acknowledge (and I'm sure not even read or watch) the spoon fed info I gave you where other major companies have some serious questions regarding their ethics.

Good luck with all of that.
Man, it's not unreasonable prejudice. There you go again completely misusing and abusing our language. I have spent 10s of thousands of dollars with PSA over the last 2 years, and they have been all OVER the place with their turnaround times, their grading standards, their customer service, the very size of the slabs they use to send stuff back to me, and the constant fuzzies and boogers and fingerprints and scratches and little pieces of plastic inside the slabs.

You act like I'm the only one reporting these issues in my submissions. You act like I'm making things up. Yet there are 100s of similarly reported cases, day after day, week after week, month after month. PSA is terrible at their job right now, and if you haven't realized that for yourself, then my guess is you probably don't submit very much, if at all.

Again, however, much more important than baseball cards is your total and completely ignorant misunderstanding of the cultural and historical meaning of the word 'bigot.' I promise you that you are not using the word correctly. The word bigot has everything to do with discrimination and Nazis and Jews and blacks, and to deny this is utterly absurd, ignorant, and offensive.

******The Wikipedia page for 'discrimination' literally redirects from the entry for 'bigot.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination *****

And here is the definition from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot (please notice their emphasis in stating ESPECIALLY in regards to racial or ethnic groups)

Brother, again, if you need google to tell you what a bigot is, I'm sorry that someone didn't help you understand the long LONG ages-old historical and cultural context of that word much earlier in your life. But it's not too late. Please do yourself and your neighbors a solid and spend a few minutes reading the wikipedia page above, because your totally unreasonable defense of this watered down definition of the word, and your complete ignorance of its historical context, might just make you something you don't want to be.
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Man, it's not unreasonable prejudice. There you go again completely misusing and abusing our language. I have spent 10s of thousands of dollars with PSA over the last 2 years, and they have been all OVER the place with their turnaround times, their grading standards, their customer service, the very size of the slabs they use to send stuff back to me, and the constant fuzzies and boogers and fingerprints and scratches and little pieces of plastic inside the slabs.

You act like I'm the only one reporting these issues in my submissions. You act like I'm making things up. Yet there are 100s of similarly reported cases, day after day, week after week, month after month. PSA is terrible at their job right now, and if you haven't realized that for yourself, then my guess is you probably don't submit very much, if at all.

Again, however, much more important than baseball cards is your total and completely ignorant misunderstanding of the cultural and historical meaning of the word 'bigot.' I promise you that you are not using the word correctly. The word bigot has everything to do with discrimination and Nazis and Jews and blacks, and to deny this is utterly absurd, ignorant, and offensive.

******The Wikipedia page for 'discrimination' literally redirects from the entry for 'bigot.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination *****

And here is the definition from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot (please notice their emphasis in stating ESPECIALLY in regards to racial or ethnic groups)

Brother, again, if you need google to tell you what a bigot is, I'm sorry that someone didn't help you understand the long LONG ages-old historical and cultural context of that word much earlier in your life. But it's not too late. Please do yourself and your neighbors a solid and spend a few minutes reading the wikipedia page above, because your totally unreasonable defense of this watered down definition of the word, and your complete ignorance of its historical context, might just make you something you don't want to be.
Well said
Don’t worry, he will move the goal posts and need that final word. Which will tell you how wrong you are and PSA is above fray lol
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:27 PM   #19036
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So anyways, does anyone have any order updates?
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:36 PM   #19037
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Does PSA have any set schedule as far as specials? I'm new to grading (1st submission this month). I took advantage of the 80s special. Is that something they have on a set schedule? Or is it just sort of random year to year? Thanks!
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Does PSA have any set schedule as far as specials? I'm new to grading (1st submission this month). I took advantage of the 80s special. Is that something they have on a set schedule? Or is it just sort of random year to year? Thanks!
Typically QUARTERLY. We have about 100 80s cards going out, but hoping an interesting special pops up soon. Selfishly I would love another non-sports special.
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:14 PM   #19039
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Does PSA have any set schedule as far as specials? I'm new to grading (1st submission this month). I took advantage of the 80s special. Is that something they have on a set schedule? Or is it just sort of random year to year? Thanks!
Earlier this year specials were just running for a month at a time, then early summer they decided to start extending them to two months. I think the 80s one is set to expire at midnight tonight, it will be a bit of a disappointment if they cop out and just say they are going to extend in another 30 days instead of bringing in something new.
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:14 PM   #19040
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Does PSA have any set schedule as far as specials? I'm new to grading (1st submission this month). I took advantage of the 80s special. Is that something they have on a set schedule? Or is it just sort of random year to year? Thanks!
No set schedule...it really depends on what people are submitting and what kind of volume of the different types of cards PSA have sitting in waiting to grade and what personnel/graders they have and the volume of work they need to keep them all busy....so a lot of variables/data that the general public don't have access to. It's all a guessing game for us here.
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I'd think we get some type of Football Special with NFL and College just a few weeks away. We will see later this week I guess. I wouldn't expect anything early in the week with everyone just getting back from Nationals and what not. I'd say Thurs or Friday if we get anything but they could surprise us.
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Old 07-31-2023, 09:18 AM   #19042
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I know i sent 2 cards in to be graded and they both show in the "grading" stage since May 12th with no movement since. I thought i see some kind of results by now.
Back in February I sent 4 cards out and all 4 were graded and returned in just under 1 month.
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Old 07-31-2023, 11:58 AM   #19045
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Just checked on my "damaged card" claim with PSA. The package arrived back to them on 5/1 and it was moved into "grading" on 5/3 and still no movement. It would seem if you had a customer whose card was damaged in the grading process, you would try to make things good with them sooner than later. I guess not with PSA.
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Just checked on my "damaged card" claim with PSA. The package arrived back to them on 5/1 and it was moved into "grading" on 5/3 and still no movement. It would seem if you had a customer whose card was damaged in the grading process, you would try to make things good with them sooner than later. I guess not with PSA.
That is just not good.
By comparison, I got an order back from SGC on Saturday. Realized a the name had a typo in it and emailed that afternoon. Had a response back Sunday morning with an apology and a shipping label and they said assuming card is to them this week, I will have it sent back to me with in a few days.
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Sports special popped. Value + still in QA1. Nothing crazy either way. Best cards were gem Mbappe 2021 FF Gold, Haaland 2020 SCC Gold, and Haaland 2023 Flagship SSP.
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Heavy weighs the crown.
You know what I mean but its actually “Heavy is the head that wears the crown”.
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You know what I mean but its actually “Heavy is the head that wears the crown”.
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