Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

Spot on again Ninja.....I don't think anybody has any idea how this is gonna turn out....For those who are fear mongering and afraid of price drops cash out and move on to something else


But for those like myself and many many others who enjoy the set and are just happy that cards we bought at msrp or even a little more have seen dramatic increases simply enjoy the ride we're on because it's likely we may never see this again


And we're not even a 1/4th of the way there.....Buckle up everyone!

Life motto: buy what you like and you never lose.




I mean, some of us are sulking at the prospect of JUST turning a 7-8x ROI on certain cards. Perspective. We're becoming spoiled by the machine. Enjoy the gifts that have been bestowed upon us. These phenomena don't pop up often.

[mrmike79]

Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Yup. Sharks bet the max and fish back out cuz it’s “too much” and they rake pots


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Just play tourneys and get aggressive during the payout bubble.

[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by mrmike79

Oh there's definitely a resurgence coming, might be a little while, and might not be as steep a line, but it's coming. Long term getting these at cost from Topps, Houdini, or TwinsJake, is pretty safe. Pick your spots and time the low PR stuff with the dips. 10 packs during the peak when everyone else is catching wind, will flood the secondary market.

I totally agree....To each his/her own but i've bought all mine direct from topps at msrp (This week i bought the 10 pack from houdini and will buy from twinsjake in the future on his new website when i multiples of a certain card) so i have nothing to worry about...I missed out on some of the early bird big boys but i've still got a decent stash in hand (and coming in the mail) that i'll make a nice profit when i eventually decide to sell

The next month will be telling as everyone has said regarding the print runs....Once all these bots, sneakerbois, buyer groups and other people buying 100 of each realize they're not gonna get rich instantly they'll bail quick


I've seen it on many items before...Recently with the Funko Pops...Funko would release an exclusive every wednesday on their site (They still do but it's no longer worth the time) and it always limited to 10,000 or less and at first you had a chance at them but then the bots and group would get them all in mere seconds

Fast forward to all the millions of compalints on their twitter page they upped the production so much that all the groups eventually left...Long story short i can see it happening with this with all the print runs about to go through the roof

[JF6]

Originally Posted by ToppsCollector1

im contemplating buying 10 Gwynns for $154 shipped. The ones on Topps right now. I really like this card so if anything ill keep one at least.

But if I can flip the other 9....well....thats obviously even better

At the same time, I dont have too much to spend on this or any card for that matter

Also keep in mind Topps is saying 15-30 business days to get the cards shipped so make sure you’re ok floating that for 6 weeks if you do buy the 10 pack. I think right now they’re about 4 weeks behind but they’ve sold like 250k cards already this week so they’re probably going to be pushed out to that 6 week mark by the time they get to the Gwynn. I’d do singles from Topps personally. The Twinsjake Route to save a few more bucks is also a good one.

[Bob Loblaw]

Use twinsjake for the Ebay points or Topps for the 1/1. Anything else is idiocity.

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[BurnerNotify]

Waiting for Shore's McGwire go sub 1K. It's being stubborn though.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by MrBurrows3

Are the cards with print runs under 2k going to keep falling forever or will we see them go back up?

Forever and ever and ever.

Like the twins in The Shining!

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by mrmike79

Just play tourneys and get aggressive during the payout bubble.

I love going for a smoke and a poop at the bubble *shrug*


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[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Hahahaha. Yes me. Offering to buy anybody on the forum, of TPBs choosing of course, an Ermsy Trout if TPB just backs up his statement.

World burner over here.

You guys are still making bank. I’m just enjoying the roller coaster of it all.

This is you enjoying something? Yeesh.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Use twinsjake for the Ebay points or Topps for the 1/1. Anything else is idiocity.

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[hpatel1089]

I really want to grab another nautrel mcgwire - do you think it'll dip below $400? And has anyone confirmed it being shipped yet?

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Waiting for Shore's McGwire go sub 1K. It's being stubborn though.

Start making offers on new listings. There have been a lot of them sold for under $1K today. Sales of $850, $925, $820, $936, $915, $936, $950, $900

[Silas Barnaby]

Anyone have informed opinions on the topic of StockX?

If I decide to move any of my $1K+ cards, I like the concept of not dealing with a finicky eBay buyer. What is the downside?

[PDCCollectibles]

Patience, patience.....give it a week or so. It’s actually a good time to buy and sell...win/win

[JF6]

Originally Posted by hpatel1089

I really want to grab another nautrel mcgwire - do you think it'll dip below $400?

I think there will be a dip when they get into peoples hands. Seems to be more sellers on stuff in hand than on presales.

[MrBurrows3]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Forever and ever and ever.

Like the twins in The Shining!

Care to elaborate

[PDCCollectibles]

Natural McGwires are in hand....up to 62 or 63 I believe

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Anyone have informed opinions on the topic of StockX?

If I decide to move any of my $1K+ cards, I like the concept of not dealing with a finicky eBay buyer. What is the downside?

Never ever had any downside selling sneakers on StockX. Assume it’s the same for cards.

In fairness, I’ve also never dealt with any of the horror stories selling cards on eBay.

[Hoardthevintage]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Natural McGwires are in hand....up to 62 or 63 I believe

The west coast is still waiting on 51+. Ship notices on 51-60 but a week out.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

Start making offers on new listings. There have been a lot of them sold for under $1K today. Sales of $850, $925, $820, $936, $915, $936, $950, $900

Lowest BIN by a good seller is $1200. Waiting for some desperate sellers.

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Anyone have informed opinions on the topic of StockX?

If I decide to move any of my $1K+ cards, I like the concept of not dealing with a finicky eBay buyer. What is the downside?

I think StockX is perfect for these, but doesn’t seem like the “collectors” demographic has adopted StockX for much of anything yet, and I’m not sure why.

StockX seems perfect for selling sealed wax and also for P2020, just hardly any activity so far.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I don’t remember. I think that was Moose. Never got a PM from you to finalize.

I also would like you to find my Ermsy Trout for $100 comment.

Got $2.5K locked and loaded for any member of your choosing to get an Ermsy Trout or the charity. Don’t let the forum down man! I haven’t commented toooooo much.

Fill me in, what's the bet here? I wont be hitting the poker tables the next 3 months at the least.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by MrBurrows3

Care to elaborate

I own a Mays Thiele and am assembling a Thiele set so I believe in his talent.

I don't want to tell you what to do but I personally would avoid trying to sell now at less than you paid. That card was the 15th card in the set with a PR under 1500.

[Acid Dock]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Anyone have informed opinions on the topic of StockX?

If I decide to move any of my $1K+ cards, I like the concept of not dealing with a finicky eBay buyer. What is the downside?

Check the fees (I'm not sure if they're different from eBay for memorabilia). They've had issues with accidentally authenticating fakes (not a problem for a seller but definitely terrible), accidentally damaging goods during the shipping/authentication process (definitely a problem, but I haven't seen it with sports cards since they're new), and repeatedly getting hacked/accidentally leaking personal info (yikes).

I won't be the first one to sell big ticket cards on Stock-X here but I'm open minded to see how it goes for some people if they decide to try it out. The fact that INAD returns are eliminated on the platform greatly appeals to me.

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Lowest BIN by a good seller is $1200. Waiting for some desperate sellers.

They are getting desperate and its getting worse. Sellers trying to lock in these gains before they fall more. Wait a couple of days and you may catch that card for half of todays price.