Ebay Sales Down

[rwperu34]

I am now getting pop up promotions when I pay. At first I thought I just made a mistake and clicked on a random item, but tonight I got it like 8 times. Same card every time.

It is very tricky the way it is laid out. It looks as if the item has already been purchased and it was one button to pay. So much so that I went ahead and checked my purchase history to make sure I hadn't actually bought it on accident. I had not.

So far it's been a mild nuisance. I'd say the biggest issue I have aside from the extra click and time I had to take to figure it out is it has been the exact same card every single time...a player I have never purchased and don't have anything in my store. If you're going to annoy me, at least mix it up a little.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Your past bidding history does not give you the ability to know what the winning bidder set as their max bid.

You can go through life acting dumb when you have incomplete information, but I do not have to. There is no doubt that the number is more than $0. The only question is the magnitude. My past bidding results gives me plenty of information to make an educated guess that will be in the neighborhood. If you want to read it as $500-$1500 that this seller has lost in the last year by not letting me bid on their items, that's fine. Keep in mind, that is a conservative estimate because it only counts the bigger items that I'm actually interested in the ending price. It would not surprise me if I have passed over 500 items to go along with that handful of big cards.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

You can go through life acting dumb when you have incomplete information, but I do not have to. There is no doubt that the number is more than $0. The only question is the magnitude. My past bidding results gives me plenty of information to make an educated guess that will be in the neighborhood. If you want to read it as $500-$1500 that this seller has lost in the last year by not letting me bid on their items, that's fine. Keep in mind, that is a conservative estimate because it only counts the bigger items that I'm actually interested in the ending price. It would not surprise me if I have passed over 500 items to go along with that handful of big cards.

My question remains if there was more to the story like you say why do you want to buy from him. Sounds like he did you a favor. You say you don't care but it's obvious you do

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

You can go through life acting dumb when you have incomplete information, but I do not have to.

Whatever you say pal.

Instead of crying here about it, why don’t you create a second account with your wife’s name to bid on the items?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Whatever you say pal.

Instead of crying here about it, why don’t you create a second account with your wife’s name to bid on the items?

Only issue there is if you get caught it's often ban for both accounts and any others they link.

[thenightman]

Reached out to a seller to see if he was willing to work out a deal on a card. I showed him terapeak had recent comps $50 less than his list price and I’d be willing to pay that. He showed me where when he sets the price on the listing on his phone ebay shows that over the last 90 days 2 had sold for more than his list price. These weren’t on terapeak.

Confused, I did some digging. Spoke to a rep on X who thought maybe they had sold in the last 24 hours. The card was rare and sells were infrequent enough over the last year that I knew that wasn’t it. I went back to terapeak and noticed one of the pics looked familiar, so I went back and looked at what the seller sent me and at that point I figured it out.

When eBay gives you a suggestion with recent sells, it doesn’t account for deals made via messages or best offers. The 2 cards that sold for $50 more than his list price actually sold for $50 less.

Seller didn’t care, though. Decided he’d rather try and get $250 over a guaranteed $200.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Reached out to a seller to see if he was willing to work out a deal on a card. I showed him terapeak had recent comps $50 less than his list price and I’d be willing to pay that. He showed me where when he sets the price on the listing on his phone ebay shows that over the last 90 days 2 had sold for more than his list price. These weren’t on terapeak.

Confused, I did some digging. Spoke to a rep on X who thought maybe they had sold in the last 24 hours. The card was rare and sells were infrequent enough over the last year that I knew that wasn’t it. I went back to terapeak and noticed one of the pics looked familiar, so I went back and looked at what the seller sent me and at that point I figured it out.

When eBay gives you a suggestion with recent sells, it doesn’t account for deals made via messages or best offers. The 2 cards that sold for $50 more than his list price actually sold for $50 less.

Seller didn’t care, though. Decided he’d rather try and get $250 over a guaranteed $200.

I think I know what you're saying, but typing out my understanding below.

The seller is looking on their phone and saying they are showing 2 sales for X when they look at Completed Sales via the Search function, which is why they currently have their card listed for X.

You're looking at Terapeak, which shows the actual sale price for those 2 sales, which was X-$50, assuming they were BO or deals made via eBay messaging.

You're offering X-$50, since you see the actual sale price.

Many sellers don't understand that the Search function Completed Sales don't show the actual sale price if an offer was accepeted on a card and simply show the original listing price...

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

I think I know what you're saying, but typing out my understanding below.

The seller is looking on their phone and saying they are showing 2 sales for X when they look at Completed Sales via the Search function, which is why they currently have their card listed for X.

You're looking at Terapeak, which shows the actual sale price for those 2 sales, which was X-$50, assuming they were BO or deals made via eBay messaging.

You're offering X-$50, since you see the actual sale price.

Many sellers don't understand that the Search function Completed Sales don't show the actual sale price if an offer was accepeted on a card and simply show the original listing price...

You're close, and I admit that the way I typed it, it doesn't sound right.

Basically, based on the pic he showed me, when he goes into the listing of the card, it looks like when he's inside the "revising" portion, eBay gives him sold prices of said card over the last 90 days. I believe this is an added feature for sellers to see what their card is going for so they can list it appropriately. I know I've seen it, but I can't recall what that function is called.

Anyways, it shows two sales over the last 90 days of $300 each. The issue is, both sellers made deals with buyers and actually sold the cards for $200 via best offer or a deal made via messages. I was able to confirm this because the listings he showed me and the listings I saw on terapeak have the same exact pics and are titled the same way.

When I showed this to the eBay rep he said he'd send it up the food chain, so hopefully this gets corrected. As far as anyone selling on here, don't trust the prices eBay gives you unless it's on terapeak.

This seller ghosted me after I showed him, which I'm not surprised by. He has the card listed as a BIN and didn't want to discount the card because the draft is coming up and the card will go up in price (his words). I think his reasoning is flawed, but sellers can do whatever they want, so I've just decided to move on.

Thought my experience was worth sharing so, at least, other sellers can know not to trust that tool eBay uses for suggested pricing.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Whatever you say pal.

Instead of crying here about it, why don’t you create a second account with your wife’s name to bid on the items?

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Only issue there is if you get caught it's often ban for both accounts and any others they link.

I actually have two accounts already, but the sales tax exemption is only good on one and it's not worth the extra hassle.

You two are also completely missing the point, despite the fact that I've spelled it out numerous times.

[nam812]

The two and half weeks since Thanksgiving have been much better for me. I think I'm in a different market than most here since 95% of my inventory is mid grade vintage (1952 - 1979), but I hope you all are experiencing the same uptick.

[thenightman]

I’m definitely pivoting this year. I’m really going to jump into grading much more often. I went back and looked at how I did over this year and while I sold a tenth graded, compared to raw, I made 2x the money on graded. I’ll still sell raw, but not nearly to the extent that I have been.

[mogwai316]

Originally Posted by nam812

The two and half weeks since Thanksgiving have been much better for me. I think I'm in a different market than most here since 95% of my inventory is mid grade vintage (1952 - 1979), but I hope you all are experiencing the same uptick.

Mostly modern here and sales have been amazing since Thanksgiving. Lots of bigger cards selling, as well as a constant flow of lower end stuff. This is a great time of the year.

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by nam812

The two and half weeks since Thanksgiving have been much better for me. I think I'm in a different market than most here since 95% of my inventory is mid grade vintage (1952 - 1979), but I hope you all are experiencing the same uptick.

We're in the same market and I'm noticing the same uptick - I actually threw a really big sale on my modern and have kept the Vintage as-is, and its selling more than the modern is at 25% off

[Raleigh504]

Originally Posted by thenightman

I’m definitely pivoting this year. I’m really going to jump into grading much more often. I went back and looked at how I did over this year and while I sold a tenth graded, compared to raw, I made 2x the money on graded. I’ll still sell raw, but not nearly to the extent that I have been.

Especially for vintage cards (for the stars/HOF), I lean on grading because it removes any doubt of the condition of the card. Plus for many cards it gives a good price range of where it should sell (granted eye appeal matters).

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by Raleigh504

Especially for vintage cards (for the stars/HOF), I lean on grading because it removes any doubt of the condition of the card. Plus for many cards it gives a good price range of where it should sell (granted eye appeal matters).

I've had better luck with raw vintage than the "flip and grade" approach from a bottom-line perspective (grading does increase their value, but when the costs and Time Value are considered, it doesn't make a ton to sense to me unless its gonna come back a 8+)

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Raleigh504

Especially for vintage cards (for the stars/HOF), I lean on grading because it removes any doubt of the condition of the card. Plus for many cards it gives a good price range of where it should sell (granted eye appeal matters).

Very true. To add, I’ll be focusing on auctions to keep the cards moving and removing 30-day returns. As you stated, with them graded it removes doubt on condition, so I don’t need to offer returns.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by nam812

The two and half weeks since Thanksgiving have been much better for me. I think I'm in a different market than most here since 95% of my inventory is mid grade vintage (1952 - 1979), but I hope you all are experiencing the same uptick.

I have noticed a change as well the inventory pivot I made is working great and has reduced my stress 10 fold. About to start doing auctions for my remaining sports cards just to clear it out

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

I have noticed a change as well the inventory pivot I made is working great and has reduced my stress 10 fold. About to start doing auctions for my remaining sports cards just to clear it out

I’ve been doing 10-15% sale on old inventory that’s more than 6 months old. Then 10-15% offers to anyone that starts watching. It’s been effective, but not as much as I’d like, so offers are gonna start hitting 15-20% soon.

[Bosoxfan5990]

I also think I'm going to start tracking & auctioning some low $ inventory starting in January 2024 to get it moving.

My current inventory is refreshed on a daily basis, but is BIN only on the low $ stuff.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by nam812

The two and half weeks since Thanksgiving have been much better for me. I think I'm in a different market than most here since 95% of my inventory is mid grade vintage (1952 - 1979), but I hope you all are experiencing the same uptick.

99.9% modern/active here and I've seen a small uptick as well.

[Raleigh504]

Past 2 days have come to a screeching halt on sales... only a few items sold vs. 10+ each day I would normally see. I have bulk deals but may run a sale in the next few days if it doesn't change.

Also been uploading more variety than just baseball too so not sure that helps or hurts.


Edit: Mainly been buying up some collections recently and cards that I could grade. Debating on trying my hand at buying a case of flagship to sell (sets, hits, etc.). Depending on the price and how much I have available too.

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by Raleigh504

Past 2 days have come to a screeching halt on sales... only a few items sold vs. 10+ each day I would normally see. I have bulk deals but may run a sale in the next few days if it doesn't change.

Also been uploading more variety than just baseball too so not sure that helps or hurts.


Edit: Mainly been buying up some collections recently and cards that I could grade. Debating on trying my hand at buying a case of flagship to sell (sets, hits, etc.). Depending on the price and how much I have available too.

I have been doing the same sales about 2 to 4 a day. Listing BB, FB , BkBl and Hockey. A reason for bigger slowdown other than economy could be it is just to close to Christmas and some may not want that disappointment of that one item not arriving on time.

[shrevecity]

We are getting to that point where tge before Christmas delivery window is shrinking. December sales usually start sliding around the 15th so maybe seeing that a little early this year.

[GoodMorning]

For ESE, do you ship cards in top loaders or card savers? How many cards to you put into one card saver?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by GoodMorning

For ESE, do you ship cards in top loaders or card savers? How many cards to you put into one card saver?

Card savers are safer for ese. Depens on saver and cards as to how many