Juan Soto vs. Ronald Acuna: Who would you take going forward? - Page 8

JRX · 08-03-2023, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

imagine not collecting both

Yep, they're both great players. Acuna is having the better season this year, though since May 1, Soto has an OPS over 1k. Some people still act like he's still slumping.

Asian62150 · 08-03-2023, 11:28 AM

In terms of OP's question (who would you buy more of and who would you start a team with) I go with Acuña.

Both are terrific talents, but Acuña is more dynamic and exciting, which is better in the hobby and for ticket sales/merch, etc...if you're running a team.

Soto may have more of an impact at the plate with the walks and such but Acuña has also improved a lot in that area.

That said, right now I'd rather sell Acuña to buy Soto as opposed to the reverse bc I do think the Soto market is depressed.

But long term, I'd rather hold RAJ.

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 11:31 AM

What age does Soto become a DH only?

JohnnyHatesJazz · 08-03-2023, 11:33 AM

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What age does Soto become a DH only?

You better hope acuna doesn't go the way of hanley any time soon cause if he does.....i'll be trolling you hard on here.

Cards and 401K · 08-03-2023, 11:34 AM

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What age does Soto become a DH only?

I like Soto at 1B then DH, love Acuna Jr he’s got to watch how aggressive he is in OF to avoid another leg injury.

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SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 11:34 AM

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You better hope acuna doesn't go the way of hanley any time soon cause if he does.....i'll be trolling you hard on here.

Cool story bro. I love Soto. Always have. I have tons of Soto cards. I check his games and boxscore almost every single night. Now back to my question: What age does Soto become DH (mostly)?

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 11:35 AM

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I like Soto at 1B then DH, love Acuna Jr he’s got to watch how aggressive he is in OF to avoid another leg injury.

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He scares me at least once a week chasing a foul ball into a wall!

JohnnyHatesJazz · 08-03-2023, 11:36 AM

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Cool story bro. I love Soto. Always have. I have tons of Soto cards. I check his games and boxscore almost every single night. Now back to my question: What age does Soto become DH (mostly)?

what kind of question is that? or is that rhetorical? Nobody knows so it must be!

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 11:45 AM

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what kind of question is that? or is that rhetorical? Nobody knows so it must be!

Welcome to a forum where discussions are had. Where hypotheticals are thrown out and discussed. Where pictures are posted. And where people talk about sports and sports cards.

ThoseBackPages · 08-03-2023, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

What age does Soto become a DH only?

aged 32

JohnnyHatesJazz · 08-03-2023, 11:46 AM

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Welcome to a forum where discussions are had. Where hypotheticals are thrown out and discussed. Where pictures are posted. And where people talk about sports and sports cards.

Like every forum you got dumb questions.

nobody knows!!!

ok ok i'll play your game....34. Now your turn.

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

Like every forum you got dumb questions.

nobody knows!!!

ok ok i'll play your game....34. Now your turn.

I think you may take yourself a little to seriously. I'd vote 32. So young 30s and for the most part only DH'ing. What does that do to card prices and legacy? He's projected as inner circle HOF'er.

KhalDrogo · 08-03-2023, 11:55 AM

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What age does Soto become a DH only?

He’s moving to SP. The next Ohtani.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 08-03-2023, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

I think you may take yourself a little to seriously. I'd vote 32. So young 30s and for the most part only DH'ing. What does that do to card prices and legacy? He's projected as inner circle HOF'er.

what if he ends up with the yankees? wins 2 more titles, ends up with 500+ maybe 600 home runs. there's variables you're not taking into account.

that goes for both. acuna may end up toast at 29, juan may dh at 28 and not sniff 500 home runs. Nobody knows.

Or they both are like magic and bird of baseball. again, nobody knows.

oddstuff · 08-03-2023, 12:11 PM

Don't know how Hanley's mental game was...but Ronnie seems to be about the game seeing how hard he has worked these past two off seasons (saw a lot of that on his IG). You read stories about his mom talking about Ronnie crying after his knee injury that he would never play again. That to me shows someone who cares about playing, the game...despite his younger days' antics of not running out fly balls he hit (I don't know how many infield singles he has had this season but he busts down the line now). Think the knee injury might be the best thing that could have happened to him in his career as it was a bit of a wakeup call to not take the game for granted or the game might be taken away from him. Him having Miguel Cabrera as his idol growing up is not bad either.

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

Don't know how Hanley's mental game was...but Ronnie seems to be about the game seeing how hard he has worked these past two off seasons (saw a lot of that on his IG). You read stories about his mom talking about Ronnie crying after his knee injury that he would never play again. That to me shows someone who cares about playing, the game...despite his younger days' antics of not running out fly balls he hit (I don't know how many infield singles he has had this season but he busts down the line now). Think the knee injury might be the best thing that could have happened to him in his career as it was a bit of a wakeup call to not take the game for granted or the game might be taken away from him. Him having Miguel Cabrera as his idol growing up is not bad either.

Good points. He was busting it the entire offseason while other peers where vacationing in exotic locations. The only location I saw Ronald in was some dump of a town on a dirt field. I think its also interesting that Soto is about to sign his mega contract in the next 18 months. Acuna hasn't signed his and wont for years. Im always a little worrisome of guys after they sign that mega baseball contract. How many times does it just not work out?

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 12:16 PM

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He’s moving to SP. The next Ohtani.

I can see the shuffle on the mound. Grabbing his nuts after every strike on the corner.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 08-03-2023, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

Don't know how Hanley's mental game was...but Ronnie seems to be about the game seeing how hard he has worked these past two off seasons (saw a lot of that on his IG). You read stories about his mom talking about Ronnie crying after his knee injury that he would never play again. That to me shows someone who cares about playing, the game...despite his younger days' antics of not running out fly balls he hit (I don't know how many infield singles he has had this season but he busts down the line now). Think the knee injury might be the best thing that could have happened to him in his career as it was a bit of a wakeup call to not take the game for granted or the game might be taken away from him. Him having Miguel Cabrera as his idol growing up is not bad either.

idk superman brandon might not give your opinion full weight considering you read articles. He doesn't like article readers.

oddstuff · 08-03-2023, 12:52 PM

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idk superman brandon might not give your opinion full weight considering you read articles. He doesn't like article readers.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...njury-comeback

KhalDrogo · 08-03-2023, 12:59 PM

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I can see the shuffle on the mound. Grabbing his nuts after every strike on the corner.

How sick would that be? He can name his curveball “the nutter”.

SupermanBrandon · 08-03-2023, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...njury-comeback

Read it months ago while watching the Braves pre-game show one night. Loved it.

REGGIE206 · 05-20-2024, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Yep. I take Acuna by a mile going forward (which was the original question).
~ You must have missed the title of the thread.

Soto has been in regression mode the last couple seasons. Acuna is closing in on an MVP and I expect to continue to get better. I don’t expect Soto get get any better.

Still feel that way?

seanrs1 · 05-20-2024, 01:57 PM

I think this is a very interesting question and the answer might not be known for another few years or so. I collect both! But I have a much larger Acuna collection because he is the more exciting player (in general) and I feel like the power/speed guys in general have more of a hobby following. Soto is in the AL MVP race this year, while Acuna is having a terrible year (for hobby standards). I feel like their cards are very similarly priced depending on who is having the better season.

jduds · 05-20-2024, 01:58 PM

Baseball Savant has the Stat Cast bat tracking data available now and it makes it clear how special Soto is. He's top 10 in terms of how hard he swings on average and still ranks 3rd in the rate he squares up which puts him up there with contact hitters like Arraez. He's got a freakish profile of power and contact that sets him above the rest of the young sluggers IMO.

cardozo · 05-20-2024, 01:59 PM

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Still feel that way?

Compared to last season he was right, right now the roles are reversed.

08-03-2023, 11:28 AM	#177
Asian62150 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,594 Asian62150	In terms of OP's question (who would you buy more of and who would you start a team with) I go with Acuña. Both are terrific talents, but Acuña is more dynamic and exciting, which is better in the hobby and for ticket sales/merch, etc...if you're running a team. Soto may have more of an impact at the plate with the walks and such but Acuña has also improved a lot in that area. That said, right now I'd rather sell Acuña to buy Soto as opposed to the reverse bc I do think the Soto market is depressed. But long term, I'd rather hold RAJ. __________________ IG: Asian62150

05-20-2024, 01:57 PM	#198
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,935	I think this is a very interesting question and the answer might not be known for another few years or so. I collect both! But I have a much larger Acuna collection because he is the more exciting player (in general) and I feel like the power/speed guys in general have more of a hobby following. Soto is in the AL MVP race this year, while Acuna is having a terrible year (for hobby standards). I feel like their cards are very similarly priced depending on who is having the better season. __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

08-03-2023, 11:31 AM	#178
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	What age does Soto become a DH only?

08-03-2023, 12:11 PM	#190
oddstuff Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: CA Posts: 5,195	Don't know how Hanley's mental game was...but Ronnie seems to be about the game seeing how hard he has worked these past two off seasons (saw a lot of that on his IG). You read stories about his mom talking about Ronnie crying after his knee injury that he would never play again. That to me shows someone who cares about playing, the game...despite his younger days' antics of not running out fly balls he hit (I don't know how many infield singles he has had this season but he busts down the line now). Think the knee injury might be the best thing that could have happened to him in his career as it was a bit of a wakeup call to not take the game for granted or the game might be taken away from him. Him having Miguel Cabrera as his idol growing up is not bad either.

05-20-2024, 01:58 PM	#199
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,819 chilaw57	Baseball Savant has the Stat Cast bat tracking data available now and it makes it clear how special Soto is. He's top 10 in terms of how hard he swings on average and still ranks 3rd in the rate he squares up which puts him up there with contact hitters like Arraez. He's got a freakish profile of power and contact that sets him above the rest of the young sluggers IMO.