Blowout Cards Forums
AD Heritage

Go Back   Blowout Cards Forums > BLOWOUTS HOBBY TALK > BASKETBALL

Notices

BASKETBALL Post your Basketball Cards Hobby Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-04-2023, 04:51 PM   #176
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBases31 View Post
And in his non-Laker years only at the top 4 out of 15 seasons. He needed to ride the back of Lakers' popularity as a team to get those last 5. And yet nearly every Laker fan will have a different answer than LeBron after he retires as to who their favorite all time Laker is


Exactly, he should've had far more #1's for how good he was. The question is whether LeBron cards should be valued among the most expensive ever. He just isn't popular enough for it.
Kobe, a Laker was #1 only six times in his entire career. So by your logic, he is not popular and his card prices should not be valued among the most expensive ever? Looking at your signature, what has Purdy achieved to justify his current card prices (other than speculation)?
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums

Last edited by pcptrade; 12-04-2023 at 04:53 PM.
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 04:52 PM   #177
Brobocop
Member
 
Brobocop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 13,635
Default

I don’t think BBases is saying anything controversial. I think all these players have experienced massive drops in prices because the run up was crazy to start with and people seem to only want to invest in the next LeBron and gamble rather than buy the sure thing like LeBron.
Brobocop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 04:57 PM   #178
Nomad
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low.
Posts: 8,094
Default

Also its highly boring to invest in just LeBron or Jordan. After a while anyone wants to sell. The real fun of cards is in the prospects and too many people picked the wrong prospects at a super high price. Oh well.
Nomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:00 PM   #179
imbluestreak23
Member
 
imbluestreak23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out
Posts: 17,581
Default

Jesus people.

Kobe was with one team. How many damn jerseys did fans need to buy?

How many teams has KANG been on?

Thus, how many jerseys did his stans need to buy all the years to rock the latest KANG swag?

Dont' overthink fellas

__________________
@shortslabs
I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN
https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort
imbluestreak23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:02 PM   #180
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcptrade View Post
Kobe, a Laker was #1 only six times in his entire career. So by your logic, he is not popular and his card prices should not be valued among the most expensive ever?
Kobe wasn't nearly as good as LeBron. Not even close. Kobe being #1 six times proves how popular he was relative to how good he was, as does LeBron's number of #1's proves that he wasn't as popular as he should've been. I think people got carried away with how good LeBron was in the middle of a bubble. It's easy to say buy the best player of our generation while forgetting that his popularity doesn't match his greatness. And there's no way for his popularity to catch up to his greatness from here on out

Quote:
Looking at your signature, what has Purdy achieved to justify his current card prices (other than speculation)?
No reason to get into Purdy in the basketball section.
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:09 PM   #181
jcardstore
Member
 
jcardstore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 21,724
Default

Well since MJ cards have dropped 90% and hasn’t had a top selling jersey in at least 20 years I guess he’s not popular anymore. Nothing to justify buying his cards.
__________________
Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell
jcardstore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:14 PM   #182
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Lebron has been with Lakers only since 2018-19 and his is the #1 selling jersey for the past 5 years (since 2018-19). How many jerseys do his stans need?
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:16 PM   #183
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcardstore View Post
Well since MJ cards have dropped 90% and hasn’t had a top selling jersey in at least 20 years I guess he’s not popular anymore. Nothing to justify buying his cards.
Show me a big MJ card that has dropped 90%. Lebron's stuff dropped more than Jordan. Imagine having 19000 posts and thinking otherwise
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:18 PM   #184
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcardstore View Post
Well since MJ cards have dropped 90% and hasn’t had a top selling jersey in at least 20 years I guess he’s not popular anymore. Nothing to justify buying his cards.
I am going to look at jersey sales before buying cards going forward. Wait...Brady was the top selling jersey of all time in NFL and his Champ Ticket has dropped 90% from the peak. That does not make sense.
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums

Last edited by pcptrade; 12-04-2023 at 05:27 PM.
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:26 PM   #185
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcptrade View Post
I am going to look at jersey sales before buying cards going forward. Wait...Brady was the top selling jersey in NFL and his Champ Ticket has dropped 90% from the peak. That does not make sense.
You are far smarter than interpreting what I saying as jersey sales as an absolutely proxy to value and also applying that to a different sport
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:27 PM   #186
jcardstore
Member
 
jcardstore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 21,724
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBases31 View Post
Show me a big MJ card that has dropped 90%. Lebron's stuff dropped more than Jordan. Imagine having 19000 posts and thinking otherwise
Oh gosh so sorry, you’re right they’ve only dropped in the mid 80% instead of 90%

It’s almost like the whole market dropped that amount. Or maybe the last 3 years were just a dream idk

Bbases sure is an expert for only getting into cards 3 months ago.
__________________
Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell
jcardstore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:27 PM   #187
jcardstore
Member
 
jcardstore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 21,724
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcptrade View Post
I am going to look at jersey sales before buying cards going forward. Wait...Brady was the top selling jersey of all time in NFL and his Champ Ticket has dropped 90% from the peak. That does not make sense.
Brady just isn’t popular enough, obviously.
__________________
Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell
jcardstore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:39 PM   #188
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcardstore View Post
Brady just isn’t popular enough, obviously.
Why would he be? Purdy and his cards are the hot topic in football section right now
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 05:55 PM   #189
mc1
Member
 
mc1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBases31 View Post
Show me a big MJ card that has dropped 90%. Lebron's stuff dropped more than Jordan. Imagine having 19000 posts and thinking otherwise
86-87 Fleer PSA 9

Peaked close to 100k. Selling for 15k right now

Oh, my bad. Thats only an 80-85 % drop.
__________________
B.I.D.
mc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:00 PM   #190
GOATcards
Member
 
GOATcards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 6,492
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mc1 View Post
86-87 Fleer PSA 9

Peaked close to 100k. Selling for 15k right now

Oh, my bad. Thats only an 80-85 % drop.
1 or 2 copies sold at around $90K, so it's like an 83% drop for those buyers
GOATcards is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:07 PM   #191
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOATcards View Post
1 or 2 copies sold at around $90K, so it's like an 83% drop for those buyers
Yea, what the hell is the reason to be accurate with numbers anyway? Let's just throw out wrong percentages that amount of thousands of dollars
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:08 PM   #192
GOATcards
Member
 
GOATcards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 6,492
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBases31 View Post
Yea, what the hell is the reason to be accurate with numbers anyway? Let's just throw out wrong percentages that amount of thousands of dollars
huh? what's your point
GOATcards is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:13 PM   #193
jcardstore
Member
 
jcardstore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 21,724
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOATcards View Post
huh? what's your point
He doesn’t have one. He’s arguing down to the decimal point so he can be “right” because nobody loves him and he desperately needs the attention he gets on here
__________________
Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell
jcardstore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:14 PM   #194
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOATcards View Post
1 or 2 copies sold at around $90K, so it's like an 83% drop for those buyers
Pandemic peak prices were only few sales (<1-2% of the pop) for vast majority of high end cards. Very few MJ 86F PSA 10's sold above 700K. Same is true for many other high end cards but we like to use those peak sales as reference point to make it dramatic. Perhaps we should use the median price since the data is skewed
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums

Last edited by pcptrade; 12-04-2023 at 06:19 PM.
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:16 PM   #195
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOATcards View Post
huh? what's your point
That the other guy was equating wrong numbers and you were correcting him
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:17 PM   #196
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Alot of people rattled that I said LeBron was an obvious bad investment
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:19 PM   #197
JeremyNick
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 22,801
Default

Are we really trying to justify now by skewing the numbers?

This is hilarious.
JeremyNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:25 PM   #198
mc1
Member
 
mc1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOATcards View Post
1 or 2 copies sold at around $90K, so it's like an 83% drop for those buyers
Same as it was for other peak prices of big cards.
__________________
B.I.D.
mc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:37 PM   #199
pcptrade
Member
 
pcptrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,630
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBases31 View Post
Alot of people rattled that I said LeBron was an obvious bad investment
If you had bought MJ, Kobe, Lebron and Curry's sought after cards before 2019, you are still up on them. It all depends on when you bought them. They were all good as investments if you had purchased them before 2019. They are all bad investments if you had purchased them in the past two years. It is no different from what happened to the majority of sports cards with a few exceptions.
__________________
Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down.

Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums

Last edited by pcptrade; 12-04-2023 at 07:25 PM.
pcptrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2023, 06:44 PM   #200
BBases31
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcptrade View Post
If you had bought MJ, Kobe, Lebron and Curry's sought after cards before 2019, you are still up on them. It all depends on when you bought them.
Of course. If you bought Ruth in 1936 or Mantle in 85 you're still up too. I should rephrase that to LeBron as being a bad relative investment at any point post 2019, that he went too high relative to everyone else and that anyone should've sold his stuff if they were in it as an investment
BBases31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2019, Blowout Cards Inc.