Women's Soccer Collectors

[49ersSF]

I've never been a fan of having a sub come in who has not even had a touch before penalty kicks. As soon as Kelly O'Hara set up you could tell she was going to miss it.

I definitely do not think Rapinoe and Morgan hurt their legacy at all. Their legacy was already cemented. Rapinoe is 38 and Morgan is 34 and this is just a case where age caught up to them.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Time to let the dinosaurs retire like Rapinoe and Morgan, far past their primes and hurt their legacy here.

Well Rapinoe is retiring so she is done Internationally.

I suspect Morgan will be on the 27 roster but should be a sub and sub only.

Ertz retiring at 31 sucks, not shocking hsving a child, but she still got it especially after being out so long.


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[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

I've never been a fan of having a sub come in who has not even had a touch before penalty kicks. As soon as Kelly O'Hara set up you could tell she was going to miss it.

She doesn’t do PK. Why the first 5 making theirs is important cause if you go 7-8 shooters you are chancing players who don’t do PK having to make it.

Only thing I will question is Ertz should have been selected after the first 5. She has taken PK.


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[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

Rapinoe was always going to make it. The minutes she gets is what baffles me.

I still rather of had Hatch over Thompson. Thompson was never going to get minutes at 18. Her first WC should be in 27.


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Eh, if you're good enough, you're old enough.

Turns out the young US players aren't as good as people thought - that's the problem being in the NWSL bubble. Like I said the other day, I think you lot would have done much better if Macario was fit, and excluding Fishel is just cutting your nose off to spite your face.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Eh, if you're good enough, you're old enough.

Turns out the young US players aren't as good as people thought - that's the problem being in the NWSL bubble. Like I said the other day, I think you lot would have done much better if Macario was fit, and excluding Fishel is just cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I still don't get this argument, but ok.

[GrangerCollectr]

Frustrating result and I think the player that was missed the most is Mallory Swanson (she would've been the star of the team). Rapinoe was flat out awful in every way this WC....she should have never seen the pitch and just been a mentor to the youngsters on the sidelines/practice.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

I still don't get this argument, but ok.

Countless young players make their mark at world cups, european cups and everything else. This weird opinion that players should be in their mid-twenties doesn't make any sense. Infact, this WC would have been the perfect time to blood someone like Thompson with more minutes. You couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.

Bellingham was 17 years old and had played just four top-flight club games when he made his England debut.

'If you're good enough, you're old enough' is a quote BTW by one of the greatest football managers in history.

[KhalDrogo]

Arrogant clowns earned their loss. Hopefully they learn from it.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Arrogant clowns earned their loss. Hopefully they learn from it.

Doubtful. Nobody learns from their mistakes nowadays. They just double down.

[JRX]

Especially when the media will continue to coddle them. Best case scenario is we fall behind the rest of the world and they become as irrelevant as the men's team.

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[Phxcoyotes85]

Interesting how this is supposed to be an indictment of the NWSL yet #2 Germany crashing out in the group stage apparently says nothing about European football.

Nobody wants to hear about advanced metrics after a loss but most of them show broadly similar performance to the past couple tournaments which were very touch and go. 2015 and 2019 were won on razor thin margins where the US got some good luck and 2023 was lost on equally thin margins where they got some bad luck. Just the way the ball bounces sometimes.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Arrogant clowns earned their loss. Hopefully they learn from it.

How are they arrogant??


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[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Countless young players make their mark at world cups, european cups and everything else. This weird opinion that players should be in their mid-twenties doesn't make any sense. Infact, this WC would have been the perfect time to blood someone like Thompson with more minutes. You couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.

Bellingham was 17 years old and had played just four top-flight club games when he made his England debut.

'If you're good enough, you're old enough' is a quote BTW by one of the greatest football managers in history.

Thompson is 18 and just graduated high school. So glad you are an amazing judge of talent that you have already proclaimed she sucks. What did she play? Like 12 minutes.

Rodman and Smith played in their first cup and will play be playing in many more. Rodman was one of the US best players today, probably outside of Girma, who also was also
Playing in her first cup.

This was a changing of the guard year for women’s soccer. By no means would I said this team was heavy favors going into this cup. They lost to the 3 team in the world in PK after pretty much dominating for 120 minutes.


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

How are they arrogant??

So Carli Lloyd is wrong?

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

So Carli Lloyd is wrong?

She was totally wrong on the hunger to win statement.


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

She was totally wrong on the hunger to win statement.

But what about the arrogance statement?

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

But what about the arrogance statement?

I am sure you are trying to turn this into some dumb political debate.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

I am sure you are trying to turn this into some dumb political debate.

Only you are pal. Arrogance has nothing to do with politics. Not sure why you think your opinion weighs more heavy than that of a former star.

This team was the equivalent of the Athens US men’s basketball team. That was a necessary turning point for US men’s basketball program. Hope the USWNT can find the same results.

[IndySportsCards]

It was never a cohesive team, and divided we fall.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

I am stunned to hear that the US is out. The team was loaded with talent and I thought they were just going to steamroll over everyone.

Anyhow, I am glad this is over because the match times were stupid! And of course, by the time I would wake up then all the news would be out there. It's not like I could just hole myself up in my bedroom watching replays!

Now, let's go back to focusing on the NWSL!

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

How are they arrogant??


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Because they dominated a Top 5 team in the world but couldn't score and lost on PKs. I guess?

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Phxcoyotes85

Interesting how this is supposed to be an indictment of the NWSL yet #2 Germany crashing out in the group stage apparently says nothing about European football.

There's been plenty of press about Germany, with a lot focusing on the fact that both the Mens team and Womens team failed miserably.

You wont find much talk about Germans, or European women's soccer in general on here because it's 90% American dudes in this thread. I'd love to talk about late 80's and early 1990's Doncaster Belles, but I'm not sure 1980's women's football penetrated the USA

... though perhaps US/NWSL fans should - If you are at all interested in Rapinoe and how she changed US soccer, you might find Julie Chipchase interesting - she was doing it in England in the 1980's and 90's. She never gets any credit for it (because she's a woman) but the work she did on transitional tactics was pretty ground-breaking and you see it in the modern men's game today.

[majestik101]

Good riddance.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Good riddance.

So patriotic patriot

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

So patriotic patriot

It's a messy situation because we've been told for years now that being patriotic often means criticizing our country.

The USWNT has been an inspiration to many different groups—but unfortunately in this particular tournament they showed up cocky and unprepared before bowing out early.