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callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 10:00 AM

Also the "protesters " weren't trying to get out of his way. They weren't in front of him or in the middle of the road until theu blocked him in and started attacking him.

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tennelson55 · 06-08-2020, 10:21 AM

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Seriously? Watch the videos, there was hardly anyone in the street, a public road that he has the right to travel on. Someone jumped in front of him with a barrier, the crowd then converged into the street and a man started reaching into his car. He defended himself and shot the man rather than being drug out. He then walked over to a line of police and turned himself in.

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I won't proclaim to know anything because I don't.
From the exact tweet the video is on...
"He hit barricade, jumped out of car with pistol. Brandished. Ran into crowd."

Why is the guy running into a barricade or did someone throw it in front of him?

Also, if a guy in a crowd comes up on my vehicle too I wouldn't shoot, but don't blame him due to the chaos/crowd mentality.

One thing I didn't expect - guy rolled out with dual mags taped together

Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by callou2131

Also the "protesters " weren't trying to get out of his way. They weren't in front of him or in the middle of the road until theu blocked him in and started attacking him.

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That view helps but would like to see video of him coming down the street to see if they are scattering like the trucker in MN. Interesting that he walked up to the police and turned himself in if true.

Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:41 AM

Saw the video with the guy screaming oh god the entire video while filing the car coming down the street from his balcony or whatever. How did he get on that road if it’s barricaded off? Or are the barricades just brought by protesters?

Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:43 AM

Double up!

callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

I won't proclaim to know anything because I don't.

From the exact tweet the video is on...

"He hit barricade, jumped out of car with pistol. Brandished. Ran into crowd."

Why is the guy running into a barricade or did someone throw it in front of him?

Also, if a guy in a crowd comes up on my vehicle too I wouldn't shoot, but don't blame him due to the chaos/crowd mentality.

One thing I didn't expect - guy rolled out with dual mags taped together

If you watch the original video the guy brings the barricade over and throws it against his car

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Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:48 AM

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If you watch the original video the guy brings the barricade over and throws it against his car

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Wonder what started the guy who gets shot for hanging on his car and chases him down the street and then trying to get in the window again? Wonder what happened before the filming?

callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 10:48 AM

Watch the bottom right video. Hard to see, but you can see the whole thing with him driving down the street

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callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 10:49 AM

https://www.twitter.com/zdgood...ews...32946837417984

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callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 10:50 AM

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NSFW video bottom right: https://www.twitter.com/zdgoodnews/s...32946837417984

This vid

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Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:55 AM

I saw the video of him turning himself in and getting arrested.

Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 10:55 AM

Weird that the guy said he punched the driver before getting shot. Why would he need to punch someone?

Will be a fun case in the court of law. Wonder how this will go.

hairysasquatch · 06-08-2020, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Weird that the guy said he punched the driver before getting shot. Why would he need to punch someone?

Will be a fun case in the court of law. Wonder how this will go.

Hostilecarrot will make his bones prosecuting this case!

Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 11:26 AM

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Hostilecarrot will make his bones prosecuting this case!

I wonder how he picks and chooses which cases and people he defends

hairysasquatch · 06-08-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I wonder how he picks and chooses which cases and people he defends

Cash validity.

RedSoxFan28 · 06-08-2020, 11:49 AM

Dont like CNN either, but posting for the chart /graph only

callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 11:59 AM

In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. The chart is flawed.

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Siberian13 · 06-08-2020, 12:09 PM

Charts and polls aren’t accurate unless I post them. Just FYI

preakness · 06-08-2020, 12:20 PM

I'd love to see case by case why any individuals shot by cops

My guess is the George Floyd murders are the exception ...plus the guy(s) involved will most likely be punished

preakness · 06-08-2020, 12:20 PM

Some arrested and charged are also killed by inmates
Therefore, let's ban inmates

Boo · 06-08-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

Some arrested and charged are also killed by inmates
Therefore, let's ban inmates

Without cops there won't be inmates, so your wish is being granted.

callou2131 · 06-08-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

I'd love to see case by case why any individuals shot by cops

My guess is the George Floyd murders are the exception ...plus the guy(s) involved will most likely be punished

I honestly think 3 will walk and the main guy will get manslaughter. It is going to be a very tough case to prosecute with the 2 autopsy results. The toxicology report said he had enough fentanyl in his system to kill most people, and with the original report listing cause of death as heart failure, it will be an interesting trial. If they walk, this country will explode.

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RedSoxFan28 · 06-08-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Charts and polls aren’t accurate unless I post them. Just FYI

Sorry. Seems to be a popular opinion.

NeedChapmans · 06-08-2020, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Sorry. Seems to be a popular opinion.

Ridiculous.

Post the same graph on violent arrests per race to offer the full picture, then show that the proportions are equal. A larger portion per capita of blacks are getting shot by police because a larger portion per capita of violent crimes are committed by blacks.

When you look at the numbers per race, it paints a different picture.

3 per 100,000 violent offender blacks are killed by police annually
4 per 100,000 violent offender whites are killed by police annually

In 2018, whites committed 3,953 murders. Blacks committed 4,778. When you take into account that the smaller population size is committing the larger portion of homicides, you can understand why their numbers blow out when confrontations with police occur.

Check rapes, check robberies, check assaults. They're all very dispropotionate when you consider whits outnumber blacks 5 to 1.

Happy to continue this discussion if you'd like, but if you wanna post the CNN propaganda nonsense to back whatever arguments you claim, it's not going to end well.

NeedChapmans · 06-08-2020, 12:51 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Never trust these people again.

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06-08-2020, 10:00 AM	#19976
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,474	Also the "protesters " weren't trying to get out of his way. They weren't in front of him or in the middle of the road until theu blocked him in and started attacking him. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

06-08-2020, 10:41 AM	#19979
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,109 shiller13	Saw the video with the guy screaming oh god the entire video while filing the car coming down the street from his balcony or whatever. How did he get on that road if it’s barricaded off? Or are the barricades just brought by protesters? __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

06-08-2020, 10:43 AM	#19980
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,109 shiller13	Double up! __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

06-08-2020, 10:48 AM	#19983
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,474	Watch the bottom right video. Hard to see, but you can see the whole thing with him driving down the street Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

06-08-2020, 10:49 AM	#19984
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,474	https://www.twitter.com/zdgood...ews...32946837417984 Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

06-08-2020, 10:55 AM	#19986
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,109 shiller13	I saw the video of him turning himself in and getting arrested. __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

06-08-2020, 10:55 AM	#19987
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,109 shiller13	Weird that the guy said he punched the driver before getting shot. Why would he need to punch someone? Will be a fun case in the court of law. Wonder how this will go. __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

06-08-2020, 11:49 AM	#19991
RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 12,550	Dont like CNN either, but posting for the chart /graph only __________________ #FreeBrady

06-08-2020, 11:59 AM	#19992
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,474	In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. The chart is flawed. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

06-08-2020, 12:09 PM	#19993
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,109 shiller13	Charts and polls aren’t accurate unless I post them. Just FYI __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

06-08-2020, 12:20 PM	#19994
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	I'd love to see case by case why any individuals shot by cops My guess is the George Floyd murders are the exception ...plus the guy(s) involved will most likely be punished

06-08-2020, 12:20 PM	#19995
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	Some arrested and charged are also killed by inmates Therefore, let's ban inmates

06-08-2020, 12:51 PM	#20000
NeedChapmans Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31,800 ProspectCincy NeedChapmans	HAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Never trust these people again. __________________ It is my legal right to freely profit from the notoriety of people who are actively suffering and possibly even dying and for a few hundred dollars I will gladly seek to maximize those profits.