**Official Luka Doncic Thread**

[KhalDrogo]

I’m done watching this team if they lose this game. There is no effort out there. KP is getting destroyed by Hassan Whiteside. Giving up second chance points, easy layups, open threes. Luka looks tired as hell from four months of having to do everything.

Rick has to go this offseason. This is as much a coaching problem as a player problem.

[1980bust]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Well it has been two games since he hit a game winning highlight reel shot.

The crash is here!

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I’m done watching this team if they lose this game. There is no effort out there. KP is getting destroyed by Hassan Whiteside. Giving up second chance points, easy layups, open threes. Luka looks tired as hell from four months of having to do everything.

Rick has to go this offseason. This is as much a coaching problem as a player problem.

Totally agree. Good or even adequate coaches adjust and find ways to get the most out of what they have. For some it’s even a rallying cry to band together. They just aren’t maximizing what they have and there is no consistency on either end.


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[lion2120]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I’m done watching this team if they lose this game. There is no effort out there. KP is getting destroyed by Hassan Whiteside. Giving up second chance points, easy layups, open threes. Luka looks tired as hell from four months of having to do everything.

Rick has to go this offseason. This is as much a coaching problem as a player problem.

I kinda hope they implode down the stretch and playoffs so that Cuban will be forced to make some significant change this offseason.

Carlisle needs to go and a proven playoff ready coach is brought in.
Kristaps needs to go and at least bring back at least one first rounder or a solid player in return.


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[KhalDrogo]

No reason to watch this team anymore. They don’t care, so I don’t care. This team needs a new coach, some true veteran leadership, and at least one big who is actually a big and can play defense. Do whatever they have to do to get rid of KP. He’s a cancer and a defensive liability that cripples the team. Pray JRich doesn’t take his player option.

If those two are back in the starting lineup next year or Rick is the head coach, good luck. Team won’t be any better because it will be the same “Luka go do everything” for us crap that we’ve had to watch the last two years. At least then we’ll be one year closer to Luka leaving. No way in hell he signs an extension this offseason if major changes aren’t made.

[bloodwings19]

Get D'Antoni, Mavs and Luka will go places. Zingis and Luka can't play on the same floor, both are SF and PF. No one to play C.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

No reason to watch this team anymore. They don’t care, so I don’t care. This team needs a new coach, some true veteran leadership, and at least one big who is actually a big and can play defense. Do whatever they have to do to get rid of KP. He’s a cancer and a defensive liability that cripples the team. Pray JRich doesn’t take his player option.

If those two are back in the starting lineup next year or Rick is the head coach, good luck. Team won’t be any better because it will be the same “Luka go do everything” for us crap that we’ve had to watch the last two years. At least then we’ll be one year closer to Luka leaving. No way in hell he signs an extension this offseason if major changes aren’t made.

They've either lost confidence in Rick or they're convinced they can't get any higher than the 7 seed and 7-10 is all the same to them.

I'd like to see some fire coming out of the half here.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by TSonn

They've either lost confidence in Rick or they're convinced they can't get any higher than the 7 seed and 7-10 is all the same to them.

I'd like to see some fire coming out of the half here.

The team just sucks.

Here’s the formula to beating the Mavs. Drive hard to the basket and pass the ball frequently. They have nobody to hold down the paint. And they do a terrible job of guarding the three point line off the pass.

[dkcardman]

Guys. Please keep bashing them! They seem to play better after us blowout fans throw in the towel on the game...

[jerrygarcia]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

No reason to watch this team anymore. They don’t care, so I don’t care. This team needs a new coach, some true veteran leadership, and at least one big who is actually a big and can play defense. Do whatever they have to do to get rid of KP. He’s a cancer and a defensive liability that cripples the team. Pray JRich doesn’t take his player option.

If those two are back in the starting lineup next year or Rick is the head coach, good luck. Team won’t be any better because it will be the same “Luka go do everything” for us crap that we’ve had to watch the last two years. At least then we’ll be one year closer to Luka leaving. No way in hell he signs an extension this offseason if major changes aren’t made.

JC, dude.

[Onepocketj]

Luka with 22 in the fourth not enough

[TSonn]

When KP's shot is off he gives the team nothing and is terrible on defense - might as well bench him if he's not shooting 50% or more in the first quarter.

[NeedChapmans]

Team is terribly inifficient as a whole. When you have Finney Smith and Brunson give you 42 points on 16/21 shooting; and you lose to Sacramento by 14 points, you just shake your head and realize it's not a team built to win.

Doncic has been awful to start games lately and is just as strong as you need your #1 usage guy to be from an efficiency standpoint. He's has some amazing finishes the last month but since the Boston game, he's just coming out really slow. Porzingins is routinely awful and defensively the whole team is lost for stretches. I just watched a Sacramento team that has lost for a month come in and lead wire to wire.

I still think they're a dangerous 7/8 and to be honest, you really don't want to be a 6 with LAC or DEN or LAL almost certainly going to be the 3-4-5 (in whatever order you want). But damn, they look bad.

[HBMC]

Maxi Kleber? Where you at?


PTS REB AST PF MIN

0 3 0 4 21

OOOOOFFFFFFFFF

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Team is terribly inifficient as a whole. When you have Finney Smith and Brunson give you 42 points on 16/21 shooting; and you lose to Sacramento by 14 points, you just shake your head and realize it's not a team built to win.

Doncic has been awful to start games lately and is just as strong as you need your #1 usage guy to be from an efficiency standpoint. He's has some amazing finishes the last month but since the Boston game, he's just coming out really slow. Porzingins is routinely awful and defensively the whole team is lost for stretches. I just watched a Sacramento team that has lost for a month come in and lead wire to wire.

I still think they're a dangerous 7/8 and to be honest, you really don't want to be a 6 with LAC or DEN or LAL almost certainly going to be the 3-4-5 (in whatever order you want). But damn, they look bad.

He hasn’t been aggressive since Porzingis opened his mouth after the Houston game. Now he’s pulling a Kobe. It’s too bad the Mavs don’t have a coach who won’t pander to inferior players. This team is best when Porzingis isn’t out there because Luka can do what he does best.

Scored 22 points in the 4th and they got outscored by 4 in the quarter. Tells you everything you need to know about this “team”.

[RedMike]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Team is terribly inifficient as a whole. When you have Finney Smith and Brunson give you 42 points on 16/21 shooting; and you lose to Sacramento by 14 points, you just shake your head and realize it's not a team built to win.

Doncic has been awful to start games lately and is just as strong as you need your #1 usage guy to be from an efficiency standpoint. He's has some amazing finishes the last month but since the Boston game, he's just coming out really slow. Porzingins is routinely awful and defensively the whole team is lost for stretches. I just watched a Sacramento team that has lost for a month come in and lead wire to wire.

I still think they're a dangerous 7/8 and to be honest, you really don't want to be a 6 with LAC or DEN or LAL almost certainly going to be the 3-4-5 (in whatever order you want). But damn, they look bad.

I notice early in games - especially around that Spurs game - Luka has been deferring early in games and not being as assertive.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by dkcardman

Incredibly enough. The purple prizm card you are referring to were all sold by Probstein 3 times over a 2 month period and it was the EXACT same card. This was obviously shilled the entire time and they have had to relist due to a non paying shiller.
This card should never have been 6k. The PSA 10 went for less than 6k just 2 days before this card ended at 6k.
This reeks of one dude using 2 accounts to bid the card up to a huge number with the plan to relist later and hope people thought 6k was an accurate comp. Then he bid it up the second time again and his plan failed because he probably won it once again. You will notice the high bidder the 2nd time was the 2nd highest bidder the first time. And he has a 7 feedback.
If a PSA 10 is a 5-6k card, the recent ending amount sounds accurate.
You can learn absolutely zilch about the state of Lukas market from the examples you provided

Not my card, but as a Ricky subber, this is 100% false. At least it is from my perspective of consigning. I've had a Topps Allen & Ginter Joe Burrow Auto PSA 9 get relisted for the second time (now third time at auction) due to non paying bidders. Currently up for auction. This is not at all uncommon. Ain't nobody shilling a Joe Burrow Ginter PSA 9, at least not the consigner (me).

In general, auction relists through consignment are WAAAAY up. I'm having record relists over the past 6-12 months.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

He hasn’t been aggressive since Porzingis opened his mouth after the Houston game. Now he’s pulling a Kobe. It’s too bad the Mavs don’t have a coach who won’t pander to inferior players. This team is best when Porzingis isn’t out there because Luka can do what he does best.

Scored 22 points in the 4th and they got outscored by 4 in the quarter. Tells you everything you need to know about this “team”.

Originally Posted by RedMike

I notice early in games - especially around that Spurs game - Luka has been deferring early in games and not being as assertive.

Yes, he has been. Looking through this thread, you routinely see very poor halftime lines. He almost always comes out in the 2nd half and gets aggressive and gets his points but ... his FT shooting lately has been awful. IDK what's going on but he's not quite right either. And for this team to be playing top level basketball, he needs to be.

But even so, Porzingis is not the guy. He's good 1 outta 4 and you can't win w/ a #2 like that. If I'm being honest, I really don't believe the problem is Carlisle ... he doesn't coach the team up / but I'm not so sure this team as contstructed is a contender. Yea, they might sneak out a great series win if matched up against someone like PHO but they're not a contender no matter who you put behind the bench.

They're just not very good.

[WalterAZ31]

I remember getting ripped for saying their roster is bad. Fun times.

Replace luka on that team with westbrook and im not sure rhey even win 25 games

[dkcardman]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Not my card, but as a Ricky subber, this is 100% false. At least it is from my perspective of consigning. I've had a Topps Allen & Ginter Joe Burrow Auto PSA 9 get relisted for the second time (now third time at auction) due to non paying bidders. Currently up for auction. This is not at all uncommon. Ain't nobody shilling a Joe Burrow Ginter PSA 9, at least not the consigner (me).

In general, auction relists through consignment are WAAAAY up. I'm having record relists over the past 6-12 months.

Was the same bidder bidding it up the first 2 times. Price was absurd high, it was shilled. Happens all the time with probstein stuff as sellers secretly bid on their own stuff. You just have to look at the facts to see if it was a likely shill and this is an easy one.. PSA 10 goes for $5800 and 2 days later a BGS 9.5 goes for 6k? Bid up by very low feedback bidders(4) and (7). Highest bid by a legitimate bidder was $3k. Same account that shilled it the first time shilled it the 2nd time. And wouldn't you know, the last person to win this also has a 7 feedback. Good chance it will be up again soon. This is about as obvious a shill as it gets.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Yes, he has been. Looking through this thread, you routinely see very poor halftime lines. He almost always comes out in the 2nd half and gets aggressive and gets his points but ... his FT shooting lately has been awful. IDK what's going on but he's not quite right either. And for this team to be playing top level basketball, he needs to be.

But even so, Porzingis is not the guy. He's good 1 outta 4 and you can't win w/ a #2 like that. If I'm being honest, I really don't believe the problem is Carlisle ... he doesn't coach the team up / but I'm not so sure this team as contstructed is a contender. Yea, they might sneak out a great series win if matched up against someone like PHO but they're not a contender no matter who you put behind the bench.

They're just not very good.

Luka is tired.

And Rick shares just as much blame for the construction of the team as the front office does. This is his team. And he sucks. Rick and Donny need to go. If Cuban doesn’t get rid of either of them, this franchise isn’t trying to win.

[armoursave]

They need to end this bizarre love affair with euro league players. That guy Maxie whatever is useless. Porzingis is exactly what the Knicks knew he was.

Luka, Hardaway, Brunson....the rest can go.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by dkcardman

Was the same bidder bidding it up the first 2 times. Price was absurd high, it was shilled. Happens all the time with probstein stuff as sellers secretly bid on their own stuff. You just have to look at the facts to see if it was a likely shill and this is an easy one.. PSA 10 goes for $5800 and 2 days later a BGS 9.5 goes for 6k? Bid up by very low feedback bidders(4) and (7). Highest bid by a legitimate bidder was $3k. Same account that shilled it the first time shilled it the 2nd time. And wouldn't you know, the last person to win this also has a 7 feedback. Good chance it will be up again soon. This is about as obvious a shill as it gets.

You very well could be right for your case. Don't want to dispute that. I would just be cautious painting the same picture for every consignment relist that happens, because in general, reslists are way way up. I had nearly 40% of a recent PSA Regular order get reslisted. Buyers in this market are as fickle as the crytpo market.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Luka is tired.

And Rick shares just as much blame for the construction of the team as the front office does. This is his team. And he sucks. Rick and Donny need to go. If Cuban doesn’t get rid of either of them, this franchise isn’t trying to win.

Rick will absolutely go. Dallas has underperformed by everyone's standards I think; they had high expectations going into this year and few coaches survive that.

(But Luka needs to lose weight. Even though his 2nd halves lately have been much better than the 1st's, he's gonna risk injury consistently playing 21 minutes in those 2nd halfs w/ extra weight on the legs).

[dkcardman]

I mean, holy crap, they MISSED 32 3 pointers! The kings only took 24 all game! This is lazy, lazy, lazy, losing basketball.