Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[FT35]

Originally Posted by JRX

Seriously, stop selling card you don't have, lol

This right here! This is NEVER a good idea. Stick to the “gold standard,” only sell what you have. A lot of these transaction messes would clear up quick.

[cardsforever]

Originally Posted by trendy26

Well this works in your favor. If you do not accept returns, then they can only return it for item not as described. With the guy not even waiting until the item arrived to ask for a return gives you leverage because if they try opening a case with eBay, you have evidence that they wanted to return for an invalid reason.

Well done!!!

[RyanSwinger]

In bear markets, LOW PRs are returned to their rightful owners.

[cardsforever]

Originally Posted by cmgcard

I’ve received my first order cancellation request. (Brett Cartoon) Guess the buyers remorse is kicking in for some. How should I handle this as the item is already in transit, but has not arrived to the buyer yet?

Years ago Ebay stopped the leaving of Negative Feedback to buyers.

That was an atrocious move by Ebay.

[williemayshayes]

Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

In bear markets, LOW PRs are returned to their rightful owners.

Money Bear Market. Look at the timeline.


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[cardsforever]

Originally Posted by cardsforever

Well written.

One member says this, then another member says that....

Relax and do your own thinking.

Personally, I am not into the signed versions by the artist, and I have no idea what this "fanny pack" thing is, and I have no interest in it.

Yesterday there was this countdown for some "companion" card; no interest.

How many members here were "persuaded" or "convinced" to purchase the "companion" cards because of the countdown?

Do your own thinking and observe what you think you need to keep an eye on, for now or for the future.

Fortunately I was in early and I am having fun no matter what happens.

Just have fun.

Also makes me wonder if some of the members here are agents for some of the artists.

[cavsfan70]

dang 10 pages since I last read.

We still upset?

It's Saturday. Have some fun. Buy some cards.

I will say that "He went to Joseph" meme that Ninja posted was hilarious.

[BTownCards]

Originally Posted by Rjcollings1973

You will probably never know The ones that have done well don’t even post about.

Well done.


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[chromefan]

Originally Posted by dgr81

baller trout down to 107

my god. what did you all do?

Bro there's some for $95 BIN this morning. I may have to get more.

[SuprheroStepdad]

I had a crazy thought. It seems like player run sets might be the most popular. If 3000 people decide they are going to do a complete Trout set, and they only want the 20 Trout cards, and they decide to accomplish this no matter the price, then there will be no complete 400 card sets ever available. I think the total number of complete sets won't be zero, but it'll probably be VERY low.

[joeed10]

I miss several post but I don't see a lot of talk about Fucci Trout. It has a pretty low print run but more talk of the Thiele and Baller.

Sidenote... I bought a Fucci for under $140 last night but I do plan to buy the other 2 also.

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[SupermanBrandon]

I haven't checked in, in about 24hrs. Still doom and gloom w/ flo charts, boasting about who was right and PR's not mattering? With a side of...nows a great time to buy and a great time to sell?

...how much is my fanny worth these days?

[FT35]

Originally Posted by SuprheroStepdad

I had a crazy thought. It seems like player run sets might be the most popular. If 3000 people decide they are going to do a complete Trout set, and they only want the 20 Trout cards, and they decide to accomplish this no matter the price, then there will be no complete 400 card sets ever available. I think the total number of complete sets won't be zero, but it'll probably be VERY low.

Complete set people will find a way...everything is available for the right price! But you are correct. Set/artist/player collectors will drive this. And remember, this number will include and accumulation of all set/artist/player collectors over time...not just now...but anyone who discovers this product from here on out...

Needless to say...now would be a pretty ok time to buy ; )

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by SuprheroStepdad

I had a crazy thought. It seems like player run sets might be the most popular. If 3000 people decide they are going to do a complete Trout set, and they only want the 20 Trout cards, and they decide to accomplish this no matter the price, then there will be no complete 400 card sets ever available. I think the total number of complete sets won't be zero, but it'll probably be VERY low.

Player sets and artist sets will be way more popular than the complete 400 card set. I think there will be less than 100 complete project 2020 sets when all is said and done.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by williemayshayes

30 of 1100ish #2 Sandys are on eBay.

That means 97% are currently being held onto.

You nailed it man. After the dust settles, the set collectors are still looking for:
Player runs
Artist runs
Complete set

Low PRs are gonna be maybe 5-8 on eBay in a week.
Just my hunch.


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Those are my thoughts as well...

[JF6]

Originally Posted by yanksfan0134

What is even considered a low print run at this point. Under 10k?

The answer is we don’t know. There aren’t really cards in hand from PRs over 5k for people that aren’t Trout or Jeter and a lot of people don’t sell until they have a card in hand (e.g. Matt Taylor Jeter and Thomas, similar print runs within about 500 cards of each other, 95 active Thomas listings, 329 Jeters). So we don’t know how the market clears when we get to all of the sellers selling (there’s a chance that 5k cards of a less popular player is too many, it depends on how you read the PR increases in terms of flippers vs collectors). I kinda suspect 8k+ is going to be a lot for some of the cards. I think we’ll start to get answers towards the end of next week when the Saladeen Mays/Chang Ichiro are in more hands.

[ThoseBackPages]

[Skunkbush]

Originally Posted by joeed10

I miss several post but I don't see a lot of talk about Fucci Trout. It has a pretty low print run but more talk of the Thiele and Baller.

Sidenote... I bought a Fucci for under $140 last night but I do plan to buy the other 2 also.

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My thoughts exactly

[hanstess]

Morning "overpaid for this" confessional:

Just got notice my Mays Saladeen I bought on Ebay for $260 is shipping. Luckily I am buying for a long-term hold and not to flip...lol

[rcearley]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

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[premium1981]

Originally Posted by hanstess

Morning "overpaid for this" confessional:

Just got notice my Mays Saladeen I bought on Ebay for $260 is shipping. Luckily I am buying for a long-term hold and not to flip...lol

RETURN IT! You shouldn't have to pay for your child's accidental purchase.

[cavsfan70]

People whining about the Baller Trout prices.

I sold 2 last Sunday for $50. I did not care then, I do not care now.

The card cost me $15.

Is 50 more than 15? Cool. I'm not greedy like the influx of people to this thread.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by Bcr

I got off the phone with eBay support and I explained the situation to them. They said that since my listing stated no returns that I could just decline the return and I will be covered. My package does require signature and has insurance and even if they don't sign for it and it comes back I get to keep the money. I was surprised as they usually side with the buyer on these.

I have been trying to tell people

call eBay and explain. They are helpful

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by rcearley

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[cavsfan70]

Well, everything died on the 27th. It's the 30th.

We still dead? Is it over Johnathan?