Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Wow. That looks delicious Where is that? Cleveland?

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[RAV2773]

Originally Posted by Zauron

I don't know if I have seen a guy so set on proving people wrong on a message board

Ego is a helluva drug

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by gamboooler

What is the opposite of a cook group? Chill group? Seems we have the makings of a solid chill group here. Someone organize it. We'll go to war with the cooks.

Opposite is a Raw Group. No cooking allowed - think steak tartar and sashimi.

[UGLI baby]

oops....

[refuse24]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

What board is that from?

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Facebook group and this is the thread





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[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by refuse24

Facebook group and this is the thread





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Lol $340


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[RyanSwinger]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

I think you're missing my point.

T206 is the closest the hobby has to an inelastic community lacking incentive to sell. The collectors tend to have a significantly greater amount of disposable income than people pursuing Project 2020. As such, there's a lot less flipping common T206s from $40 to $70 on Ebay.

Despite the foregoing, it's still pretty darn easy to acquire just about any of the non Top 5-10 cards in the set at a fair price point on any day of the week.

The point I am making is, while T206's community may be inelastic, there is also not robust demand for T206 OUTSIDE of that community. At this very moment in time, Project 2020 is arguably the hottest series in the sport card industry.

I get what you are trying to say but its not apples to apples.

[Boredlawyer]

Lots of self loathing projection today

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by cp312

He'll probably adjust on the numbered ones, it is a hard market to be pricing things in right now

Efdot pretty much sold out of everything. Even with the jacked up prices. I think there's a few higher priced autos left. They'll be gone soon. His Patreon system worked flawlessly for me. I prefer his way of selling the autos over any other artist (by far).

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by refuse24

Just thought I let everyone know this guy thinks Blowout Is fake news


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Probably a PBM.

I got kicked out of a FB group because I linked to BO when all the trimming stuff was coming out and the mod was a PBM that would boot people whenever they mentioned it. LOL.

[Bigbluesooner]

Originally Posted by cp312

He'll probably adjust on the numbered ones, it is a hard market to be pricing things in right now

Its too bad for me. I picked up a Williams auto during the craze for not to much more on Ebay. Was planning on getting one of each card. I guess I'll have to nix those plans.

[JF6]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Efdot pretty much sold out of everything. Even with the jacked up prices. I think there's a few higher priced autos left. They'll be gone soon. His Patreon system worked flawlessly for me. I prefer his way of selling the autos over any other artist (by far).

I truly like his system. I passed on this round, Gwynn isn’t one of my guys, but the prices seemed fair even if they were an increase. Also like the livestreams. Cool to see his process and the iterations throughout.

[cardsforever]

Oh no--A Frank Thomas #23 sold for "only" $225.00.

I better dump my remaining five---NOT!!!!

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Bigbluesooner

Its too bad for me. I picked up a Williams auto during the craze for not to much more on Ebay. Was planning on getting one of each card. I guess I'll have to nix those plans.

It’s cool, I was Efdot fan from the beginning and I already conceded defeat at his new pricing structure. But I’m super happy for him!!!


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[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

The point I am making is, while T206's community may be inelastic, there is also not robust demand for T206 OUTSIDE of that community. At this very moment in time, Project 2020 is arguably the hottest series in the sport card industry.

I get what you are trying to say but its not apples to apples.

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[rookiepatchauto]

Originally Posted by Snakeonia

Im starting to question though

if people believe the gary media coverage why sell out beforehand? Did the flippers go way too hard and now are in damage control liquidating older releases at the same time to cover future/ current expenses? Did people by in at $$$ hoping to hit $$$$ and got caught holding too many bags? The 99k print run was way too much supply for demand in my opinion. Good for the artist good for the hobby but good lord. Its like all the ventilators the usa made that you will be able to buy at a pawn store in a cpl years.


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Because some people loaded up on multiple Project cards all the way up until Griffey Shores, and it's tough to dump massive quantities of a high print run card at the same time. High-volume flippers will probably be selling now, tomorrow, next week, and next month. It's hard to dump 20 cards all at the same time without putting downward pressure on prices, especially when you're dealing with a card that was bought up by buyers groups. It's easy for OPEC to hold when oil prices are high, but everything hits the fan when oil prices tumble.

Some high-volume flippers who are recommending others hold are probably dumping some of their own Project as we speak. At $20 MSRP, it's tough to not take money off the table when prices are falling.

Personally, I just think there are better opportunities in the hobby right now without the same level of volatility and frustrating ebay buyer/seller issues.

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Facebook

I know. Which board on facebook?

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[redscollector24]

This thread is toxic

[ottobord]

Beanie Babies and Cabbage Patch dolls, that's what this has become, what a shame, it was pretty cool. Price manipulation at its finest. There is enough blame to pass around so I won't even start. Not sure I care if I complete my Mattingly set, idk.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

This thread is toxic

Who's being toxic?

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

This thread is toxic

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

Lots of self loathing projection today

I hate myself and want to die. Goodbye profits.

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[Bmaf05]

So I purchased a card, and it has since declined slightly. No biggie. No plans on canceling. I plan on honoring all my purchases. But what I don’t like is that the seller says the item has shipped and tracking number was applied with a shipment date for jun2-4th. For a card that topps hasn’t even printed yet!!! This is bad. Just spoke to eBay about this. I was told that I should open a claim on June 5th BECAUSE if he decides to not ship the card and 30 days has passed from my expected delivery date, there’s basically nothing they can do about it and the window to file a claim has passed. Returns have a different policy! This is EXACTLY what was told to me by eBay this am. Beware buyers as well as sellers!!! This could cause a bigger issue down the line. Oh and the seller I purchased from has high number of feedback and 100% rating.

[gamboooler]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I hate myself and want to die. Goodbye profits.

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This made me legit lol.

[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

This thread is toxic

Agreed......I thought the "I can't find any unopened product at retail" thread was bad