**The Perennial MIKE TROUT Thread**

[lawrencedc1]

He's struggling to hit the high fastball, the book is out on him. He knows it, hopefully he can correct it.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Stifle

I attempt to “read” a player in situational opportunities because that is when the pitcher vs the batter seem to be more locked in. Trout is at .294 for his OBP % with Runners In Scoring Position. Roughly half of what it was only 2 years ago. No way on this earth should he be at that level unless there is something occurring. A injured Mike Trout struggles to at least a .380%. ? ? ?

Maybe the back issue is bothering him? Perhaps its something else? I would much rather watch a healthy Trout. Baseball is so much more fun when people like Trout, Acuna, and Judge are healthy and dominating.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Maybe the back issue is bothering him? Perhaps its something else? I would much rather watch a healthy Trout. Baseball is so much more fun when people like Trout, Acuna, and Judge are healthy and dominating.

Judge misjudged the wall and had a JD Martinez moment where his GPS failed him by making a great catch but crashing into the door/wall. Thank goodness it was the door that opened or it could have been much worse.

Trout, it could be numerous things. It wasn’t that he took his 240+ pound frame into a stationary bag. We know that wasn’t the cause but he isn’t “right”. The high fastball theory doesn’t cover the scope of his struggle. I don’t buy that as to his situational struggles where he has excelled to a degree of reaching base like Barry Bonds and Ted Williams.

Acuna, injuries by making plays that increase their image of value but diminish their ability for availability. The most vital aspect of a skill set is to have it perform. I’ll take that being as a hitter in the lineup since hitting a round ball with a round bat is the hardest skill set in all sports.

WAR - risk vs reWARd - make a great catch increase DWar or steal a base and increase oWAR while being re-placed.

[Lonewolf]

0-2 with 2 strikeouts already tonight ...give him a game off to reset...

[baseballbunez]

Definitely needs a day off here, surprised he hasn’t had one in a while. He seems to be pressing and having a tough time getting out of this current funk

[BoSoxFan1999]

Trout is struggling big-time. Almost hope he's playing injured as that would explain his fall off lately.

[ThoseBackPages]

time to burn his cards?

[Rabs]

It’s over.

[SupermanBrandon]

I pitched some in HS. I know throwing motions and human anatomy. I think he has bicep tendinitis w/ a mild labrum tear of the throwing shoulder.

[Fizroy]

Washed. ��

[Vdm2018]

6 more striked-out to tie the lead in AL.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Trouty is in the lineup today on an early game. Thought for sure he was gonna have a rest day

[Rabs]

Has he attempted a steal all season?

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Vdm2018

6 more striked-out to tie the lead in AL.

Cant spell Mike Trout without K Out.

[razorsharp]

He went his entire prime without ever having a single meaningful postseason moment.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by razorsharp

He went his entire prime without ever having a single meaningful postseason moment.

#ThanksTopps

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by razorsharp

He went his entire prime without ever having a single meaningful postseason moment.

Yet ? Let’s hope he doesn’t end his career like Dale Murphy and I believe Bobby Bonds all were swept in 3 games while struggling and never went again. Murphy and Bonds have not been selected to the Hall and I believe if they had strong Post Season careers, that probably would have changed enough voters.

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Yet ? Let’s hope he doesn’t end his career like Dale Murphy and I believe Bobby Bonds all were swept in 3 games while struggling and never went again. Murphy and Bonds have not been selected to the Hall and I believe if they had strong Post Season careers, that probably would have changed enough voters.

I mean, if anyone thinks postseasons are going to matter in Trout getting inducted I don't know what to tell you. He is THE generational talent that we currently have, no one touches him even if he were to hang it up today. Sure, good postseasons and longevity will pull him further into the inner circle but he's already in there.

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[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by redauto5

I mean, if anyone thinks postseasons are going to matter in Trout getting inducted I don't know what to tell you. He is THE generational talent that we currently have, no one touches him even if he were to hang it up today. Sure, good postseasons and longevity will pull him further into the inner circle but he's already in there.

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This.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Yet ? Let’s hope he doesn’t end his career like Dale Murphy and I believe Bobby Bonds all were swept in 3 games while struggling and never went again. Murphy and Bonds have not been selected to the Hall and I believe if they had strong Post Season careers, that probably would have changed enough voters.

This might be your most ridiculous post yet. Bravo.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by redauto5

I mean, if anyone thinks postseasons are going to matter in Trout getting inducted I don't know what to tell you. He is THE generational talent that we currently have, no one touches him even if he were to hang it up today. Sure, good postseasons and longevity will pull him further into the inner circle but he's already in there.

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Trout is solidified to be in the HOF. For those who believe there isn’t a tiering of players and the performance or lack of isn’t a measuring stick. They should remember how great Ernie Banks was though he is never measured up with the Iconic players who won World Series or played in them in the 50’s-60’s. We never hear of Banks because it’s Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Berra, Koufax, Gibson, etc.

The greatness of Banks and his two MVP’s is close to resembling the 80’s Dale Murphy legacy. If anyone thinks that Murphy would have pulled a Randy Arozarena for his career Post Season accomplishments and be left off with 2 MVP’s, unlikely. To believe that the Post Season merits nothing for a players accomplishments for enshrinement. That is a huge oversight.

[ThoseBackPages]

puff puff pass

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Trout is solidified to be in the HOF. For those who believe there isn’t a tiering of players and the performance or lack of isn’t a measuring stick. They should remember how great Ernie Banks was though he is never measured up with the Iconic players who won World Series or played in them in the 50’s-60’s. We never hear of Banks because it’s Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Berra, Koufax, Gibson, etc.



The greatness of Banks and his two MVP’s is close to resembling the 80’s Dale Murphy legacy. If anyone thinks that Murphy would have pulled a Randy Arozarena for his career Post Season accomplishments and be left off with 2 MVP’s, unlikely. To believe that the Post Season merits nothing for a players accomplishments for enshrinement. That is a huge oversight.

Mike Trout - 84 WAR and counting...(53rd) 13 years in the bigs and counting...

Ernie Banks - 68 WAR (126th)
19 years in the bigs.

I realize WAR isn't the end all be all, and yes Postseason performance plays its part in a players legacy, but I think you're missing Mike Trouts sustained greatness just a little bit here.

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[redauto5]

I guess we can do Dale as well.

18 seasons, 46 WAR, 381st. The 2 MVPs are a huge peak but Dale was just a "good" player for much of his career. Postseasons don't have much to do with his lack of induction to me.

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[pete2345]

Stop by this pit stop of a thread from time to time. Same as ever the same bagholders making excuses for this washed average player sad really.