Ronald Acuña

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by DStars45

Thank you. Now someone please convince me to take the plunge on buying one. I've only been looking at them for about 6 months.

You’re better off spending a little extra money to get a bat down, especially as they’re coming down so much in price. Selling prices of $230-$260 the past few days

[pewe]

Originally Posted by chris_ac

You both mention intrinsic value. This is part of collecting yes to keep buying, i.e. knowing fair prices on the HTF stuff. But my beef is I must be in the super duper minority where there is no money motive at all when buying cards.

I don't have unlimited $$... if I did, then I wouldn't care what cards cost, and I would just be able to buy the rainbow that I desire.

BUT my $$ is limited. So this causes two things for me:
-- frustration when I can't reasonably imagine affording a PC set of a player
-- anxiety that my locked up value might go down, in the case I ever need to move my PC because cash is needed (for instance, I had to sell a part of my Devers PC to pay for my wife's 40th birthday over the summer... do I wish I hadn't? sure? did I have an option? no, and I'm happy I did)

[pewe]

Originally Posted by mcgoo2

I commend your collecting perspective but you're in the small minority of the people who drop $500+ down on cards. Heck, I PC with the expectation/hope that my collection value is relatively stable and I think I'm in the minority at this point.

YES! I don't need appreciation, I just want possibility of roughly flat liquidity

[Rjackd11]

Originally Posted by pewe

YES! I don't need appreciation, I just want possibility of roughly flat liquidity

I have managed to demonstrate to my soon-to-be-other half the liquidity of cards. Of course, values rise and fall as with anything, but she does fully appreciate that I can stick anything I’ve got on eBay in an auction and can reasonably expect to have cash for it in a week. That’s one awesome thing about this hobby of ours. Lots of people have things they love that either cost money with little return (for instance, shooting sports- I’m a big gun guy, and I can’t sell the spent rounds or anything) or just flat out have no value to anyone but the hobbyist. I’m very lucky In that regard. She gives me no flak at all about having tens of thousands of dollars in cardboard sitting in a box.

[jrg1128]

Originally Posted by Rjackd11

I have managed to demonstrate to my soon-to-be-other half the liquidity of cards. Of course, values rise and fall as with anything, but she does fully appreciate that I can stick anything I’ve got on eBay in an auction and can reasonably expect to have cash for it in a week. That’s one awesome thing about this hobby of ours. Lots of people have things they love that either cost money with little return (for instance, shooting sports- I’m a big gun guy, and I can’t sell the spent rounds or anything) or just flat out have no value to anyone but the hobbyist. I’m very lucky In that regard. She gives me no flak at all about having tens of thousands of dollars in cardboard sitting in a box.

Mine is the same way. When I see posts of people talking about having their cards sent to work so their SO won't find out, I realize that I'm pretty lucky. And it makes the hobby much more enjoyable.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by chris_ac

You both mention intrinsic value. This is part of collecting yes to keep buying, i.e. knowing fair prices on the HTF stuff. But my beef is I must be in the super duper minority where there is no money motive at all when buying cards. Is stable or future value of collection a great thing? Sure.

Hoping cards you buy will rise in value is a pretty natural thing, even if that money won't change anything. Not caring at all about a rise in value is going to be proportionally related to the rest of your net worth. The vast majority of people do not have a number high enough to make that care literal zero, that should be obvious

[Rjackd11]

Originally Posted by jrg1128

Mine is the same way. When I see posts of people talking about having their cards sent to work so their SO won't find out, I realize that I'm pretty lucky. And it makes the hobby much more enjoyable.

Yeah that would majorly suck. Just in general. To have to be deceptive like that AND to have something we enjoy so much driving a wedge in a relationship... now, if your household is having financial issues and you’re still buying them, that’s another story. I wonder how much of that is going on and the guys telling the sob story are omitting that part. I highly doubt if the bills are paid and there’s some money gone to savings and you’re not buying cards in lieu of important things like date nights once in a while and such that there would be much of an issue with most women. Why would they care then?


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[chris_ac]

Originally Posted by pewe

I don't have unlimited $$... if I did, then I wouldn't care what cards cost, and I would just be able to buy the rainbow that I desire.

BUT my $$ is limited. So this causes two things for me:
-- frustration when I can't reasonably imagine affording a PC set of a player
-- anxiety that my locked up value might go down, in the case I ever need to move my PC because cash is needed (for instance, I had to sell a part of my Devers PC to pay for my wife's 40th birthday over the summer... do I wish I hadn't? sure? did I have an option? no, and I'm happy I did)

I don't either. I'm super selective about what I buy period. I'm not the one you'll see in this thread hoarding base RCs of any kind. I pass on lots of cards I come across just like most here.

Actually, my PC would be even better if I could kill my old habits of buying boxes/cases when ebay is quiet for me.

Originally Posted by BBases31

Hoping cards you buy will rise in value is a pretty natural thing, even if that money won't change anything. Not caring at all about a rise in value is going to be proportionally related to the rest of your net worth. The vast majority of people do not have a number high enough to make that care literal zero, that should be obvious

There is more to this hobby than worth for your collection or future growth like a 401k imho. There's a mental peace to it that just about zero people understand. And I don't stare at my own cards everyday either.

My sentiments are biased because I have no future due to Cystic Fibrosis. I'm actually wearing an oxygen mask while typing this in my bedroom no joke. Having one of those bad days senior citizens have.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

2ish K

or is that 2Kish

[pewe]

Originally Posted by Rjackd11

I have managed to demonstrate to my soon-to-be-other half the liquidity of cards. Of course, values rise and fall as with anything, but she does fully appreciate that I can stick anything I’ve got on eBay in an auction and can reasonably expect to have cash for it in a week. That’s one awesome thing about this hobby of ours. Lots of people have things they love that either cost money with little return (for instance, shooting sports- I’m a big gun guy, and I can’t sell the spent rounds or anything) or just flat out have no value to anyone but the hobbyist. I’m very lucky In that regard. She gives me no flak at all about having tens of thousands of dollars in cardboard sitting in a box.

My wife LOVES this... I show her my PayPal account with $$ in it (from selling), and she feels good that at least my card collection isn't a drain on the bank account

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by chris_ac

There is more to this hobby than worth for your collection or future growth like a 401k imho. There's a mental peace to it that just about zero people understand.

There's a mental peace with a completely secure and large net worth as well. Let's frame it this way: A guy that can only afford a $2000 collection is going to care if his Bat Down goes up in price. He won't care at all if his 25 cent insert goes up in price. It's all relative

[pewe]

Originally Posted by chris_ac

Actually, my PC would be even better if I could kill my old habits of buying boxes/cases when ebay is quiet for me.

Oh man - this was the most important change for me, too... and I am SOOOO much happier with what my son and I picked up this year.

My son still bothers me to open packs, but I think I've convinced him the hunt for cards we desire is fun. And deciding what to sell to cover their cost, and actually getting the deal done to raise $$, is part of the excitement.

[DStars45]

Originally Posted by BBases31

You’re better off spending a little extra money to get a bat down, especially as they’re coming down so much in price. Selling prices of $230-$260 the past few days

Going along with this. Would you rather have a Bat down PSA 9 or Heritage Action PSA 10?

[KingInTheNorth]

Originally Posted by DStars45

Going along with this. Would you rather have a Bat down PSA 9 or Heritage Action PSA 10?

Action 10..

Maybe because I have 5 bat downs and no actions.

[SICKMADE]

Originally Posted by kinginthenorth

i bought the only two i saw...i didn't even see them until after i paid mark for some topps chrome. Turned around to leave, saw them, and thought why not.

ahhhgh!!!!! I was gonna buy them!!!!!

[dream34]

Originally Posted by BBases31

There's a mental peace with a completely secure and large net worth as well. Let's frame it this way: A guy that can only afford a $2000 collection is going to care if his Bat Down goes up in price. He won't care at all if his 25 cent insert goes up in price. It's all relative

I don't think you're reading what he's writing. He doesn't care about the value and does it for the hobby of it. This is the base of the "industry" and why collectibles always have value, because of the hobby base that it is built upon. Chris doesn't (seem to) care about his net worth or his 401K as much as you might, he does this simply out of enjoyment and maybe community here. Love guys like him and know that he will most likely be here when all the "investors" are gone just enjoying the player and his collection. Congrats Chris, hope you all the best on your Acuna collection. It'll be nice to see them all one day when you want to share them.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by dream34

I don't think you're reading what he's writing. He doesn't care about the value and does it for the hobby of it.

He has the luxury to not care about whether his $10,000+ Acuna collection goes up or down. Most people do it for the hobby as well but they are going to care about the chunks of their collection that have some relative % to their net worth. How is this so hard to understand? No one here cares at all if their 10 cent pink refractor common goes up or down. Why? Because the 10 cents isn't making a difference to anyone. If someone has $50k in the bank and $10k in cards, they're going to care if it appreciates. If someone has $50 million in the bank, they're much less likely to care if their $10k in cards appreciates.

[KingInTheNorth]

Originally Posted by SICKMADE

ahhhgh!!!!! I was gonna buy them!!!!!

Ouch.

[wyguy11]

I know it’s all about flagship...but these are nice.




https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F153658642414


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[SaltyCracker]

Some Acuna PC items that came back last week from PSA

Acuna by Salty Cracker, on Flickr

Acuna by Salty Cracker, on Flickr

[Seven Costanza]

I'm all about "let the kids play".. but what's the difference between that crazy taking a ball thing and only to strike out VS watching a HR fall short and getting held to a single? Acuna must just be more polarizing

[SaltyCracker]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

I'm all about "let the kids play".. but what's the difference between that crazy taking a ball thing and only to strike out VS watching a HR fall short and getting held to a single? Acuna must just be more polarizing

The difference is someone made an out vs someone who reached base safely?

[maxtradamos]

What’s the likelihood Acuña hits 40/40 in 2020?


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[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by maxtradamos

What’s the likelihood Acuña hits 40/40 in 2020?


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That’s a lot of SB. Him even getting close is rare.

Obviously could happen but I’d say it is not likely even if he stays healthy

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by maxtradamos

What’s the likelihood Acuña hits 40/40 in 2020?


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