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Old 03-11-2025, 09:51 PM   #201
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Alright, let's agree to disagree. If 49ers can win their division after paying purdy 50m+ I'll eat my words

And, since purdy as you said 6-1 rhen by that logic he should be paid more than Allen, more than Love, Tlaw, Burrow, Dak. Go ahead then, pay him 60mm
Absolutely agree to disagree.

I don't think Purdy is getting 50 mil + so it's a moot point.

Purdy is 6-1 TD/Int.

I'm not making the logic jump about winning a division and other QBs' contracts that you are because contact matters. I think the Niners have committed to a mini re-set and that means cleaning house, accumulating draft pics and comp picks and getting younger and cheaper.

Apples and oranges.
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Old 03-11-2025, 09:54 PM   #202
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Absolutely agree to disagree.

I don't think Purdy is getting 50 mil + so it's a moot point.

Purdy is 6-1 TD/Int.

I'm not making the logic jump about winning a division and other QBs' contracts that you are because contact matters. I think the Niners have committed to a mini re-set and that means cleaning house, accumulating draft pics and comp picks and getting younger and cheaper.

Apples and oranges.
I thought the 6-1 is W-L. Either way, you can't really say 49ers is on a reset when you still have CMC, Aiyuk, Kittle, Warner, Trent, Bosa. Those should in theory make you contenders, it now really depends on Purdy
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Old 03-11-2025, 10:22 PM   #203
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I thought the 6-1 is W-L. Either way, you can't really say 49ers is on a reset when you still have CMC, Aiyuk, Kittle, Warner, Trent, Bosa. Those should in theory make you contenders, it now really depends on Purdy
The problem is that most of those guys have injury issues, and now you've lost all your depth.
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Old 03-11-2025, 10:37 PM   #204
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The problem is that most of those guys have injury issues, and now you've lost all your depth.
Well, if most of them are injured like last season then all bets are off. I'm saying Purdy should be able to bring 49ers to win their divvy barring any injuries as 49ers roster still pretty stacked as is. That's the way to justify 50m price tag he's reportedly asking
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Old 03-12-2025, 12:32 AM   #205
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The problem is that most of those guys have injury issues, and now you've lost all your depth.
And the O line is dog poo
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Old 03-12-2025, 05:19 AM   #206
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SF has what 3-4 picks in the first 100 of the draft, they could stack some O line guys in the draft, or at least a couple
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Shanahan has finally got his dream QB. Mac Jones.
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Shanahan has finally got his dream QB. Mac Jones.
I was staying positive.

Until now.
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Old 03-12-2025, 10:36 PM   #209
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Shanahan has finally got his dream QB. Mac Jones.
Sending a message to Purdy that the Niners mean business.
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Shanahan has finally got his dream QB. Mac Jones.
Mac's not a bad player.
I wanted Minn to draft him 2021 (they traded down).

Belly isn't exactly an offensive mastermind (McDaniels had left NE), and Jax lately is a hellhole where nobody does well.
I would not rule out the dude having a decent career 2nd half... late bloomer (like Geno, Goff, Cousins, others).

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Sending a message to Purdy that the Niners mean business.
Eh, it's a business.
Darnold did well after SF (and likely would've staying there too).

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Old 03-13-2025, 06:33 AM   #211
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Sending a message to Purdy that the Niners mean business.
If Mac Jones is his dream player he’s not as good as a coach as he’s made out to be
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Old 03-13-2025, 08:29 AM   #212
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You know that old axiom in business that there is Fast, Good, and Cheap and you can't have all 3.
The Niners seem to be under the mistaken impression that they can get Young, Good, AND Cheap players in free agency.
Even before the draft its hard to see how this team is going to be better than last year.

Its shaping up to be a re-tool year.
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Old 03-13-2025, 08:52 AM   #213
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You know that old axiom in business that there is Fast, Good, and Cheap and you can't have all 3.
The Niners seem to be under the mistaken impression that they can get Young, Good, AND Cheap players in free agency.
Even before the draft its hard to see how this team is going to be better than last year.

Its shaping up to be a re-tool year.
It sucks to pay Purdy, that they have to dump half the team. But if not, they could have just traded Purdy (which I am not so sure isn't on the table if the Steelers come a knocking offering too much to pass up)

I think 49ers fans (the majority) would revolt if Purdy got traded, but if they got back some kind of package that was too good to say no to maybe they do it. They already have a bunch of picks in the first 100 picks of the draft, and maybe they could add a few more. They would certainly get younger and cheaper, but then they are right back to where they started with the QB position.

T can't believe that the Steelers, Giants, or even the Titans wouldn't take Purdy if they could afford to make it happen, especially the Steelers that seem to think they are a QB away from a deep playoff run. Purdy would step in with 2 good weapons at WR certainly.
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Old 03-13-2025, 09:00 AM   #214
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It sucks to pay Purdy, that they have to dump half the team. But if not, they could have just traded Purdy (which I am not so sure isn't on the table if the Steelers come a knocking offering too much to pass up)

I think 49ers fans (the majority) would revolt if Purdy got traded, but if they got back some kind of package that was too good to say no to maybe they do it. They already have a bunch of picks in the first 100 picks of the draft, and maybe they could add a few more. They would certainly get younger and cheaper, but then they are right back to where they started with the QB position.

T can't believe that the Steelers, Giants, or even the Titans wouldn't take Purdy if they could afford to make it happen, especially the Steelers that seem to think they are a QB away from a deep playoff run. Purdy would step in with 2 good weapons at WR certainly.
I think the majority of Niners fans know what they have in Purdy and if a trade scenario comes up that improves the team at the expense of Purdy, they would be fine with it. The honeymoon is over.
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I think the majority of Niners fans know what they have in Purdy and if a trade scenario comes up that improves the team at the expense of Purdy, they would be fine with it. The honeymoon is over.
Until they start watching Mac Jones play and fail, and then the pushback starts
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Until they start watching Mac Jones play and fail, and then the pushback starts
Most Niners fans are intelligent enough to know Mac will not have the supporting cast and weapons that Purdy had. They are realistic about the salary situation. Very few fans if any want the Niners to pay Purdy whatever he wants because they know it will hurt the team.
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Most Niners fans are intelligent enough to know Mac will not have the supporting cast and weapons that Purdy had. They are realistic about the salary situation. Very few fans if any want the Niners to pay Purdy whatever he wants because they know it will hurt the team.
You could stack all kinds of talent around Mac Jones, he is not good, so it won't matter. I almost wanna see the trade now just to see the paths that SF takes, and whatever team Purdy goes to
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Old 03-13-2025, 09:40 AM   #218
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You could stack all kinds of talent around Mac Jones, he is not good, so it won't matter. I almost wanna see the trade now just to see the paths that SF takes, and whatever team Purdy goes to
It would have been interesting to see had the Niners taken Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance in the 2021 draft.

I would love to see Purdy on a different team to see what his skills really are.
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Old 03-13-2025, 09:44 AM   #219
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It would have been interesting to see had the Niners taken Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance in the 2021 draft.

I would love to see Purdy on a different team to see what his skills really are.
Me too. Of course, ANY QB on ANY team that doesn't have good weapons isn't as good as that same QB on a team loaded with weapons.

What does worry me about Purdy, he didn't have good games against AFC north teams in bad weather (although he supposedly played in bad weather a lot in college), so him going to Pittsburgh may be an issue
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Me too. Of course, ANY QB on ANY team that doesn't have good weapons isn't as good as that same QB on a team loaded with weapons.

What does worry me about Purdy, he didn't have good games against AFC north teams in bad weather (although he supposedly played in bad weather a lot in college), so him going to Pittsburgh may be an issue
Yes, big hands are important in cold weather.
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Old 03-13-2025, 10:07 AM   #221
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Bad weather is such a lazy and overemphasized variable.

Purdy has 2 incredible come from behind wins in the playoffs. The other 2 QBs in the league with better come from behind playoff victories are Trevor Lawrence (1) and Mahomes. That's the list.

Bad weather seems to make every QB in the league play worse unless your name is Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.

How many snow or rain games does the average team play each season? Maybe 2??

Stafford's final throw last season was in the snow to basically win the game and it was one of the worst throws of his career. It happens. Goff in the snow..Tua in the snow..lol. Purdy is fine.

The niners have absolutely ran the doors off teams over the past few seasons. Purdy, although surrounded by great talent, was also exceptional in many games.

If you play home games in California, you actually want a QB who has a track record of explosiveness in GOOD weather. Because that's where the majority of games are played. I couldn't care less about a potential snow game in Washington. You go for the majority of games because this is all about stacking wins.
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Bad weather is such a lazy and overemphasized variable.

Purdy has 2 incredible come from behind wins in the playoffs. The other 2 QBs in the league with better come from behind playoff victories are Trevor Lawrence (1) and Mahomes. That's the list.

Bad weather seems to make every QB in the league play worse unless your name is Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.

How many snow or rain games does the average team play each season? Maybe 2??

Stafford's final throw last season was in the snow to basically win the game and it was one of the worst throws of his career. It happens. Goff in the snow..Tua in the snow..lol. Purdy is fine.

The niners have absolutely ran the doors off teams over the past few seasons. Purdy, although surrounded by great talent, was also exceptional in many games.

If you play home games in California, you actually want a QB who has a track record of explosiveness in GOOD weather. Because that's where the majority of games are played. I couldn't care less about a potential snow game in Washington. You go for the majority of games because this is all about stacking wins.
Tua in the snow is fun tv. Even just in cold weather really.
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Old 03-13-2025, 01:02 PM   #223
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I'm truly hating this off-season, but again, look at next year's schedule:

Home games- Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Chicago

Away games- Cleveland, Indy, NO, NYG

Some of these teams have improved but they don't really scare anyone.

Even if they split with AZ and Seattle there's still a good shot for a 10 win season.

That's why I don't understand what's going on, why we're assumingly deciding to rebuild this year. I believe we definitely could have kicked the can down the road for another year and set ourselves up for a playoff run. There are quality free agents that we could afford and we're watching them go elsewhere. Meanwhile we sign Mac Jones
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Old 03-13-2025, 01:31 PM   #224
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I'm truly hating this off-season, but again, look at next year's schedule:

Home games- Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Chicago

Away games- Cleveland, Indy, NO, NYG

Some of these teams have improved but they don't really scare anyone.

Even if they split with AZ and Seattle there's still a good shot for a 10 win season.

That's why I don't understand what's going on, why we're assumingly deciding to rebuild this year. I believe we definitely could have kicked the can down the road for another year and set ourselves up for a playoff run. There are quality free agents that we could afford and we're watching them go elsewhere. Meanwhile we sign Mac Jones
Its a very manageable regular season schedule. But if the quality of the team doesn't improve noticeably, there won't be a deep playoff run.

We've lost 8 starters (not counting Huf) and so far have only signed QB2, TE2, WR3/4 and special teamers.
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The longer Purdy goes without a contract, the more I feel they are trying to trade him, and they are either ironing out his contract with the new team, or he will play for the new team on his old contract and let them handle the extension. Something does not feel right.
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