Topps out---Fanatics in - Page 90

Armythug · 09-08-2021, 07:12 PM

Cant wait to see how Fanatics handle this. I hope they put more product on the blockchain.

80s Kid · 09-08-2021, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I don't think MLB/MLBPA cares. They just care about the money as dumping Topps shows.

Yeah, the MLB is making more money while Fanatics does the work. Nobody at MLB headquarters is going to care if Fanatics goes with Upper Deck TMs to help fill their set quotas.

PatchSentinel · 09-08-2021, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Hearing from the inside that Fanatics has a plan in place to buy out UD, official announcement is coming.

Awesome news. It's weird to have two of the biggest names of all time in basketball not have a single NBA-licensed autograph produced in years. MJ isn't getting any younger, maybe it's time to cash out. UD has also been quite stale in their designs for some time as well. I don't care what anyone says, Panini brought a fresh energy and cool designs to the market for the brief time they had the NHL license. We'll see what Fanatics will do, if in fact this news is true.

creasecollector · 09-08-2021, 08:51 PM

It'll be interesting if they buy out Upper Deck.... that would be huge news.

PKIPP · 09-09-2021, 03:12 AM

Would love to see UD Reflections make a comeback in both baseball and basketball cards

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fulltritty · 09-09-2021, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Etopps Lasted longer than most companies.

And Toys "R" Us outlasted Etopps. That doesn't automatically mean they had a better business model or wasn't a disaster because they lasted longer.

ewokpelts · 09-09-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

None of this matters after an acquisition. The brand didn't get sued. The brand didn't try to screw over MLB. The people in charge of the brand did.

Buying a poorly managed company and turning it into a winner again would be a badge of honor for Fanatics or anyone for that matter.

The upper deck COMPANY was sued. And lost. And handed major restrictions.

It doesn’t matter who owns the company if the company is barred from having players in team colors or even a baseball uniform.

Archangel1775 · 09-09-2021, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

The upper deck COMPANY was sued. And lost. And handed major restrictions.

It doesn’t matter who owns the company if the company is barred from having players in team colors or even a baseball uniform.

Interesting from a legal standpoint if that's the case. Fanatics with MLB owners and MLBPA having equity in the company can't use their own logos/team names.

rws211 · 09-09-2021, 04:40 PM

Easy- buy Upper Deck, own the IP / assets, dissolve the original entity. It’s UD brand design owned by Fanatics.

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80s Kid · 09-09-2021, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

The upper deck COMPANY was sued. And lost. And handed major restrictions.

It doesn’t matter who owns the company if the company is barred from having players in team colors or even a baseball uniform.

Barred based on a settlement when Upper Deck didn’t have the rights. Fanatics would certainly be able to produce cards with logos using the Upper Deck trademarks if they had the rights to do so.

MoreToppsPlease · 09-09-2021, 05:59 PM

Half the people on this thread work for UD and are looking for a payout

mikmouse24 · 09-16-2021, 11:12 AM

Is this just something that you aren't supposed to talk about here? IF so, mods, no harm no foul if this is deleted.

I am trying to gather as much info as I can, but it appears that wherever I go, it's slanted one way or the other.

Maybe it's too early to tell.

My takeaways is that Fanatics will have a corner on all (major) Sports card production with the licensing locked down. Where does that leave Topps and Panini? How does that affect distributors/retail outlets like BlowOut?

Topps didn't get sold and didn't get their blank check, that deal crashed and burned because of this.

Will EVEYRONE just be able to buy straight from Fanatics and they will cut out the middleman? No more Topps? Or do they wait until Topps is about to go under and buy them for pennies on the dollar?

I am torn on all of this- will it be good or bad for the hobby, or are we about to see a paradigm shift on how we collect/buy/grade/trade cards.

Just posted to hear your opinions- it's probably too early to tell.

LCM1223 · 09-16-2021, 11:16 AM

Wasn't there a massive thread

SupermanBrandon · 09-16-2021, 11:16 AM

Here's 90 pages for you...

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1482338

Jelinek · 09-16-2021, 11:16 AM

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1482338

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-16-2021, 11:16 AM

Huh? There was a massive thread about it the day the news broke and it’s been brought up in a lot of other threads. It’s been heavily discussed here.

towerymt · 09-16-2021, 11:19 AM

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base set · 09-16-2021, 11:38 AM

The day it happened the comments were so heavy so fast it was impossible to even discuss from one thought to the next.

ThoseBackPages · 09-16-2021, 11:41 AM

im livid

BoofBonser26 · 09-16-2021, 11:41 AM

And I think the reason you don't see it discussed more now is because everyone is in a holding pattern waiting for more information - there was a trickle of a few additional details about a week after, and that's been it, nothing really since then. So other than going "Hey, that Fanatics, huh?" there's nothing more to say that hasn't been said right now.

Archangel1775 · 09-16-2021, 11:43 AM

Topps is currently giving us a taste of how it will be with the 2021 Finest Flashbacks and Ginter X release. Normally that's a $99 or less boxes. They were sold at $175 and $199. FF sold out and I expect Ginter X to sell out today as well. These prices will be either right or more than likely, a lot more with Fanatics. However, Fanatics will probably print it like 1990 Pro Set. I expect a "How Fanatics killed the sports card hobby" in a decade.

mikmouse24 · 09-16-2021, 11:46 AM

Thanks everyone, I did a search but that didn't come up. I appreciate the link and will dive in.
Thanks again

1000 Sport Zonk · 09-16-2021, 11:47 AM

Its not like anyone really knows anything about what will happen anyways. The massive thread is just hand wringing and dreaming up scenarios and NFT talk.

mikmouse24 · 09-16-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BoofBonser26

And I think the reason you don't see it discussed more now is because everyone is in a holding pattern waiting for more information - there was a trickle of a few additional details about a week after, and that's been it, nothing really since then. So other than going "Hey, that Fanatics, huh?" there's nothing more to say that hasn't been said right now.

Good call. I was feeling like I missed something, but apparently not.

ewokpelts · 09-16-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Topps is currently giving us a taste of how it will be with the 2021 Finest Flashbacks and Ginter X release. Normally that's a $99 or less boxes. They were sold at $175 and $199. FF sold out and I expect Ginter X to sell out today as well. These prices will be either right or more than likely, a lot more with Fanatics. However, Fanatics will probably print it like 1990 Pro Set. I expect a "How Fanatics killed the sports card hobby" in a decade.

No. 1991 pro set. The 1990 issue was considered “rarer”. Lolz.

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09-16-2021, 11:12 AM	#2237
mikmouse24 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Missouri Posts: 596 thenewmick24	Why isn't anyone talking about the Fanatics deal and how it affects baseball cards? Is this just something that you aren't supposed to talk about here? IF so, mods, no harm no foul if this is deleted. I am trying to gather as much info as I can, but it appears that wherever I go, it's slanted one way or the other. Maybe it's too early to tell. My takeaways is that Fanatics will have a corner on all (major) Sports card production with the licensing locked down. Where does that leave Topps and Panini? How does that affect distributors/retail outlets like BlowOut? Topps didn't get sold and didn't get their blank check, that deal crashed and burned because of this. Will EVEYRONE just be able to buy straight from Fanatics and they will cut out the middleman? No more Topps? Or do they wait until Topps is about to go under and buy them for pennies on the dollar? I am torn on all of this- will it be good or bad for the hobby, or are we about to see a paradigm shift on how we collect/buy/grade/trade cards. Just posted to hear your opinions- it's probably too early to tell. Last edited by blowoutcards4; 09-17-2021 at 12:02 AM. Reason: Spam? really?

09-08-2021, 07:12 PM	#2226
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09-16-2021, 11:16 AM	#2241
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09-16-2021, 11:38 AM	#2243
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09-16-2021, 11:43 AM	#2246
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09-16-2021, 11:46 AM	#2247
mikmouse24 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Missouri Posts: 596 thenewmick24	Thanks everyone, I did a search but that didn't come up. I appreciate the link and will dive in. Thanks again

09-16-2021, 11:47 AM	#2248
1000 Sport Zonk Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,368	Its not like anyone really knows anything about what will happen anyways. The massive thread is just hand wringing and dreaming up scenarios and NFT talk.