**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 904

Asian62150 · 10-19-2021, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Anybody ever got an in person Luka auto? Mavs plays the Nuggets here on the 29th and my son wants to try this time. Ive never taken him but thinking of trying

Are playing signing since fans started coming back? I'd imagine some players are still hesitant on close interaction with fans. Or maybe the NBA is discouraging it for the time being?

jmcca170 · 10-19-2021, 10:31 PM

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Anybody ever got an in person Luka auto? Mavs plays the Nuggets here on the 29th and my son wants to try this time. Ive never taken him but thinking of trying

I’d be curious as well. Was thinking about hunting at the team hotel when they go to New Orleans

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PSA2Pac · 10-20-2021, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

Are playing signing since fans started coming back? I'd imagine some players are still hesitant on close interaction with fans. Or maybe the NBA is discouraging it for the time being?

Ive seen a couple videos from last year where Luka was signing for folks. I’m sure it’s just gonna depend on the player/situation

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I’d be curious as well. Was thinking about hunting at the team hotel when they go to New Orleans

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Yeah I used to do the in person auto thing when I was a kid. Hotels were definitely your best bet. Ive seen videos of Luka signing at games and at hotels too, just dont know what hotel teams are staying at nowadays. Used to be the Westin for the most part, but it’s been damn near 30 years since I’ve been lol

jmcca170 · 10-20-2021, 08:20 AM

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Ive seen a couple videos from last year where Luka was signing for folks. I’m sure it’s just gonna depend on the player/situation

Yeah I used to do the in person auto thing when I was a kid. Hotels were definitely your best bet. Ive seen videos of Luka signing at games and at hotels too, just dont know what hotel teams are staying at nowadays. Used to be the Westin for the most part, but it’s been damn near 30 years since I’ve been lol

Pretty sure it’s the Ritz in NOLA

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PSA2Pac · 10-20-2021, 08:23 AM

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Pretty sure it’s the Ritz in NOLA

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We have a Ritz in Denver too. I’ll have to put that on my shortlist. Thanks

mbuch21 · 10-20-2021, 01:58 PM

Question: IF the Mavs are terrible, notwithstanding Luka’s near triple double average, and suddenly Luka’s leading MVP odds begin to fall and championship aspirations look even more distant, is there a risk that his super deep fan pool begins to sour? Or in his case, does team success mean less than it would for most other players with a smaller fan base?

RogerGodahell · 10-20-2021, 02:18 PM

Every player has got to start winning eventually. But he's so young he will still be 22 until almost the end of this season.

What makes you think the Mavs will be horrible? I think they're going to be pretty good this year. They looked really good in preseason. KP looks dialed in on both ends. The overall energy of the team seems way more positive with JKidd as coach.

KhalDrogo · 10-20-2021, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mbuch21

Question: IF the Mavs are terrible, notwithstanding Luka’s near triple double average, and suddenly Luka’s leading MVP odds begin to fall and championship aspirations look even more distant, is there a risk that his super deep fan pool begins to sour? Or in his case, does team success mean less than it would for most other players with a smaller fan base?

Nobody has thrown money at Luka thinking the Mavs are going to be a title contender. He just needs to do what he’s done the last two years.

jmcca170 · 10-20-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mbuch21

Question: IF the Mavs are terrible, notwithstanding Luka’s near triple double average, and suddenly Luka’s leading MVP odds begin to fall and championship aspirations look even more distant, is there a risk that his super deep fan pool begins to sour? Or in his case, does team success mean less than it would for most other players with a smaller fan base?

Don’t mean this to sound insulting at all- but I think this is a very legit question when he’s 26 or 27.

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mbuch21 · 10-20-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Every player has got to start winning eventually. But he's so young he will still be 22 until almost the end of this season.

What makes you think the Mavs will be horrible? I think they're going to be pretty good this year. They looked really good in preseason. KP looks dialed in on both ends. The overall energy of the team seems way more positive with JKidd as coach.

I think the biggest issue was lack of constructive evolution during the offseason. Still waaaay too much pressure on Luka for usage and scoring, with other starters (including KP) and bench largely filled with role players.
The media seems enamored with Kidd as a coach, but that’s not a comprehensive solution.

RogerGodahell · 10-20-2021, 03:50 PM

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I think the biggest issue was lack of constructive evolution during the offseason. Still waaaay too much pressure on Luka for usage and scoring, with other starters (including KP) and bench largely filled with role players.
The media seems enamored with Kidd as a coach, but that’s not a comprehensive solution.

The Mavs were bad but lucky enough to be in a situation to trade Trae and another 1st round pick for him. When you're lucky enough to land a player like that who can carry an organization there is generally a rebuilding period because you are bad.

You know the problem with the Mavs ? They didn't really have a rebuilding period. Luka was so good from the start they were better earlier than expected. They had other issues as well but that is one of the main ones.

mbuch21 · 10-20-2021, 04:16 PM

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Don’t mean this to sound insulting at all- but I think this is a very legit question when he’s 26 or 27.

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I would agree that for any other player in the league, that 26 is the age is when people start looking for leadership and a ring. But because Luka is so darn good, he is different. His pricing ($5k a silver???) is already priced up to literally 100% guaranteed hall of fame and face of the generation level. I don’t think he gets 5 years before the market turns against him. I just wonder if softening kicks in now if they don’t make the playoffs, which is a small but actual possibility.

KhalDrogo · 10-20-2021, 04:19 PM

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I would agree that for any other player in the league, that 26 is the age is when people start looking for leadership and a ring. But because Luka is so darn good, he is different. His pricing ($5k a silver???) is already priced up to literally 100% guaranteed hall of fame and face of the generation level. I don’t think he gets 5 years before the market turns against him. I just wonder if softening kicks in now if they don’t make the playoffs, which is a small but actual possibility.

Judging by how few big $$$ Luka have come up for sale this offseason, I don’t think any of those guys care too much about his playoff success right now. It’s a team game, and the Mavs are not as good of a team as some of their counterparts in the West.

I would love to see them get past the first round. Short of getting to the Finals, I don’t think his pricing will move that much though.

jmcca170 · 10-21-2021, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The Mavs were bad but lucky enough to be in a situation to trade Trae and another 1st round pick for him. When you're lucky enough to land a player like that who can carry an organization there is generally a rebuilding period because you are bad.

You know the problem with the Mavs ? They didn't really have a rebuilding period. Luka was so good from the start they were better earlier than expected. They had other issues as well but that is one of the main ones.

1. They didn’t have a rebuilding period because Luka was so good

2. Because Luka was so good, they got impatient and made terrible decisions

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TSonn · 10-21-2021, 11:34 AM

Luka v Trae tonight. Let's goooo.

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jbmm161 · 10-21-2021, 11:36 AM

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jbmm161 · 10-21-2021, 11:42 AM

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Luka v Trae tonight. Let's goooo.

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sethc1020 · 10-21-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mbuch21

Question: IF the Mavs are terrible, notwithstanding Luka’s near triple double average, and suddenly Luka’s leading MVP odds begin to fall and championship aspirations look even more distant, is there a risk that his super deep fan pool begins to sour? Or in his case, does team success mean less than it would for most other players with a smaller fan base?

See Lebron for reference

Asian62150 · 10-21-2021, 12:36 PM

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Luka v Trae tonight. Let's goooo.

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Luka vs. Trae, indeed. Well done!

Mahomie · 10-21-2021, 12:45 PM

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Luka v Trae tonight. Let's goooo.

Nice cards - definitely looking forward to this game tonight.

KhalDrogo · 10-21-2021, 06:32 PM

Here we go.

Onepocketj · 10-21-2021, 07:16 PM

Quiet 5/4/3 so far

NeedChapmans · 10-21-2021, 07:30 PM

Yawn. Sleepwalking through game #1.

KhalDrogo · 10-21-2021, 07:34 PM

At least they didn’t play as bad as the Bucks are playing.

Luka needs to assert himself more. Guys also need to catch and hold on to the damn ball. Thought the defense was good. That’s the only positive.

KhalDrogo · 10-21-2021, 07:56 PM

No energy. Pretty disappointing for opening night.

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