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Old 06-23-2020, 11:24 AM   #22626
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That’s similar to what I found. I clicked on a twitter link that was posted a page or two ago and went down the rabbit hole and came across a post that shows a number of photos of a garage door pull that looks like a noose... because it is a noose. Apparently they’re in every garage.

Where are the photos of the noose? Where is the video evidence? Did jussie smollett put it there?
They don't use those garages anymore.

Also, it's an FBI investigation, probably why there isn't video footage, yet.
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Ok, please explain what was wrong with what he said this time. People who illegally deface and destroy private property and do so while hiding behind a "protest" should receive the maximum sentence.

The problem is he says something like that and then nothing happens. Same thing happened with CHAZ. I agree with what the President is saying but I'm not seeing any action. We know we obviously can't rely on local police to enforce anything because they have their hands tied by their Democratic leaders. So unless he takes specific action, I agree that what he says doesn't really matter.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:29 AM   #22628
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I think the sympathizers have grown dramatically. More so that just the numbers growing, it’s louder and more consistent. It’s everywhere. Companies, corporations big and small.

And if Trump gets re-elected in November, that will only cause more chaos. That’s one thing I am absolutely sure of.
Trump being reelected is far better for the growing leftist movements in this country, no doubt.
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I'm saying this President doesn't get to say what's what anymore.
I mean, he can still say it, but it's meaningless.
The emperor is naked, hardly anyone still compliments his invisible suit, and even he can feel the breeze on his backside.

Even here, few even try to say anything good about Trump. They only try to minimize what's awful about him. Those defending him usually just attack anyone reporting the sad facts of matter. We're to the point where we are considered biased by merely talking about what verifiably happened. Sometimes, an actual "take" isn't even required anymore to set them off.

I don't take it personally and I doubt Heel does either.
Go nuts.
I give zero cares about what Trump supporters say. The only thing that will change their mind is if their conscience can overtake their ignorance.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:35 AM   #22630
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I give zero cares about what Trump supporters say. The only thing that will change their mind is if their conscience can overtake their ignorance.
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I give zero cares about what Biden supporters say. The only thing that will change their mind is if their conscience can overtake their ignorance.
+1, 100% agree.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:40 AM   #22632
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I give zero cares about what Trump supporters say. The only thing that will change their mind is if their conscience can overtake their ignorance.
That's the attitude that helps keeps things the way they are in general. " I don't care what you say, you're just ignorant."

There will never be middle ground with this sort of attitude.
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It's literally front page of today Strib sports and trending with Bubba Wallace and Jussie Smollett on twitter too. Haven't checked ESPN yet for it, don't need Stephen A's hot take
Don't need Stephen A's hot take on ANYTHING. EVER.
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Damn liberals wanting smaller and more accountable government
Yikes. That's what you read in my post?
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Trending Twitter topics. Social media needs to go.
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I give zero cares about what Trump supporters say. The only thing that will change their mind is if their conscience can overtake their ignorance.
Strictly my opinion here. But in today's voting climate, my current thinking is a flaming bag of dog turds over anyone with a D-XX in front of their name.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:55 AM   #22638
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The Bubba Wallace Nascar trending incident looks even more fake than Jussie's story from last year
Sure, guy. Never change. Is it that hard to believe a very racist sport would have racists in it that are against what is going on in the NASCAR world?

Racism in NASCAR goes back decades and decades and decades.
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Sure, guy. Never change. Is it that hard to believe a very racist sport would have racists in it that are against what is going on in the NASCAR world?

Racism in NASCAR goes back decades and decades and decades.
It's not hard.

But it's also not hard to believe this is a hoax, like so many others. Just sayin' stats are skewing farther and farther away from legit and to hoax as time passes. Not an unreasonable position to take anymore; article here suggests it's even better than 50/50.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-cr...nk-11561503352
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It's not hard.

But it's also not hard to believe this is a hoax, like so many others. Just sayin' stats are skewing farther and farther away from legit and to hoax as time passes. Not an unreasonable position to take anymore; article here suggests it's even better than 50/50.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-cr...nk-11561503352
It could be. If it is I hope NASCAR or whoever set it up would get what they deserve.

From what I've heard there is video cameras in the area so this shouldn't be a very big mystery.
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That's the attitude that helps keeps things the way they are in general. " I don't care what you say, you're just ignorant."

There will never be middle ground with this sort of attitude.
Its more of a temper tantrum than anything. A 4 year long temper tantrum.
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It could be. If it is I hope NASCAR or whoever set it up would get what they deserve.

From what I've heard there is video cameras in the area so this shouldn't be a very big mystery.
No it should not. Limited # of people allowed, tight security, and video of the area. Even if it was a hoax, nothing ever happens to the hoaxer. Bubba will simply say he/his team shined a light on an important issue, and away it goes. Same playbook every-time; the hoax is never punished, which is why you see more and more of it.

No consequences and unlimited media attention. From the strippers at Duke to Jussie ... they just walk away.

And I should point out, that Crystal Mangum was convicted of second-degree murder in 2013 - 14 year minimum sentence.
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No it should not. Limited # of people allowed, tight security, and video of the area. Even if it was a hoax, nothing ever happens to the hoaxer. Bubba will simply say he/his team shined a light on an important issue, and away it goes. Same playbook every-time; the hoax is never punished, which is why you see more and more of it.

No consequences and unlimited media attention. From the strippers at Duke to Jussie ... they just walk away.
If Bubba had something to do with it, he's a pretty great actor, from his breakdown crying, to after the race emotions with the fans. I don't think he's a great actor.
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Its more of a temper tantrum than anything. A 4 year long temper tantrum.
Never mind... misunderstood.
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Its more of a temper tantrum than anything. A 4 year long temper tantrum.
Yeah that's the way I see it also. But then again I'm just ignorant.
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Yeah that's the way I see it also. But then again I'm just ignorant.
And clearly racist.
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They don't use those garages anymore.

Also, it's an FBI investigation, probably why there isn't video footage, yet.
Seems like a solid use of FBI resources. Do they do this for all instances like this with anybody like regular people?
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And clearly racist.
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No it should not. Limited # of people allowed, tight security, and video of the area. Even if it was a hoax, nothing ever happens to the hoaxer. Bubba will simply say he/his team shined a light on an important issue, and away it goes. Same playbook every-time; the hoax is never punished, which is why you see more and more of it.

No consequences and unlimited media attention. From the strippers at Duke to Jussie ... they just walk away.

And I should point out, that Crystal Mangum was convicted of second-degree murder in 2013 - 14 year minimum sentence.
Nothing?

Really?

Smollett is facing multiple charges for this stunt. His career is heavily affected.

Nifong was disbarred and jailed for his role as prosecutor during the Duke lacrosse incident. And it was a huge story.

Crystal Magnum held true to her story, and while she was never charged, she's self-destructed.

Are we going to stick with "nothing?"

If this indeed was a hoax, I wouldn't expect this guy to race in NASCAR again...at the minimum.
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