**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 960

jrnelson · 02-10-2022, 02:39 PM

Kp for Dinwiddie & Dāvis Bertāns

Blake050 · 02-10-2022, 02:49 PM

Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25.

Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24.

Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24.

This move doesn't do much for cap space.

beavers · 02-10-2022, 02:51 PM

Interesting move. Does that that they won’t likely resign Brunson? Dinwiddie is due $18 million both the next two years. Bertrans $16 million the next three.

KhalDrogo · 02-10-2022, 02:52 PM

I don’t know what I’m supposed to think about this. Trade KP and get more cap pain?

Ferg1945 · 02-10-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

You guys get your wish!!!

No more blaming KP for everything.

Now who do we blame? Is Westbrook the universal blame now? I'm good with it, just want clarification.

anusinha · 02-10-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake050

Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25.

Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24.

Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24.

This move doesn't do much for cap space.

Arent NBA trades supposed to be somewhat salary neutral?

Schmoove · 02-10-2022, 02:53 PM

They weren't going to unload KP without taking on equivalent salary.

Junk for junk trade and you hope the new guys coming in show signs of life.

PelicanFly · 02-10-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

No more blaming KP for everything.

Now who do we blame? Is Westbrook the universal blame now? I'm good with it, just want clarification.

It just moves the blame to Kidd...

Dame · 02-10-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake050

Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25.

Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24.

Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24.

This move doesn't do much for cap space.

You’re looking at it wrong.

They should have more flexibility now.

bloodwings19 · 02-10-2022, 02:56 PM

Zingi is like a mega Durant type, will forever never play a full season without taking time off. Except Zingi never shows up for the playoffs playing, or injured.

Marshall524 · 02-10-2022, 02:58 PM

Agreeing with Dame a couple posts up. Probably easier to maneuver two medium sized salaries versus one large salary for future transactions. Interesting to say the least!

sethc1020 · 02-10-2022, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake050

Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25.

Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24.

Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24.

This move doesn't do much for cap space.

Yeah kind of an odd move based solely on salary

beavers · 02-10-2022, 03:00 PM

Bertans has shot 40% from 3 over his career. That could be helpful.
Dinwiddie is kinda weird fit IMO

drobfan8 · 02-10-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beavers

Bertans has shot 40% from 3 over his career. That could be helpful.
Dinwiddie is kinda weird fit IMO

Yeah not sure what happened to Bertans lately, but he can catch fire and be a major threat.

Maybe they just realised that surrounding Luka with all shooters is better?

Or there's more moves to make in the offseason. I think if they waited they could have gotten something better in the offseason for Zinger.

Strange move. Maybe the Mavs are ok with the bigs they got and just wanted more depth.

Beal and Zinger is a nice combo for next season

KhalDrogo · 02-10-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dame

You’re looking at it wrong.

They should have more flexibility now.

That’s true.

I don’t see how Dinwiddie fits. He’s going to be the backup PG? Even though Brunson starts with Luka, it’s rare that neither of them are on the court.

RedMike · 02-10-2022, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake050

Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25.

Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24.

Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24.

This move doesn't do much for cap space.

Actually recheck the cap -

This isn't a cap move - this is a win now move.

I think Mavs know what most of us know, KP is not dependable to stay healthy. I think Mavs is going with the idea that they only need one superstar in Luka , for now, and just a lot of dependable good players around him.

Also, it will be easier to move Spencer and Bertans at their price in the future.

I'm guessing, but personally, I don't mind this trade at all.

Dame · 02-10-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshall524

Agreeing with Dame a couple posts up. Probably easier to maneuver two medium sized salaries versus one large salary for future transactions. Interesting to say the least!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That’s true.

I don’t see how Dinwiddie fits. He’s going to be the backup PG? Even though Brunson starts with Luka, it’s rare that neither of them are on the court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That’s true.

I don’t see how Dinwiddie fits. He’s going to be the backup PG? Even though Brunson starts with Luka, it’s rare that neither of them are on the court.

Yeah.

It's a short term push to get some good months out of these guys. I think the bigger picture is to have more agility under the cap this summer. Easier to deal 2 moving parts than one at $35 million.

KP isn't really highly regarded or coveted as we've seen from the last 2 transactions that involved him.

Blake050 · 02-10-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedMike

Hang on - Are you counting the player option Porzingis had?

You are correct, 2023-24 is a player option.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washingt...rzingis-17832/

I'd think he would opt in at this point, but you never know.

Matt24 · 02-10-2022, 03:32 PM

Dinwiddie is washed... hopefully this trade brings him back a bit. Bertans has been washed too but maybe can make some open looks. We will see.

RedMike · 02-10-2022, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake050

You are correct, 2023-24 is a player option.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washingt...rzingis-17832/

I'd think he would opt in at this point, but you never know.

He will defo opt in.. i mean unless he has some monster season but I can't forsee him getting a max deal from someone with all his injury history.

You never say never though.

tadams1996 · 02-10-2022, 03:35 PM

This gives the Mavs options down the road. With THJ playing subpar this year they weren't going to be able to move him.

jrnelson · 02-10-2022, 04:50 PM

Looks like they are locking up DFS. 4 years at $52M

RogerGodahell · 02-10-2022, 05:02 PM

It's not a home run but i don't hate the trade. They'll be easier to move than KP was if they don't work out. Plus it gives them more depth. KP was a non factor because he never plays, they're winning without him. If anything they improved their second unit. At least these guys will give you something compared to KP missing half the season annually.

FT35 · 02-10-2022, 05:24 PM

Anyone think they will chase buyouts? Dragic maybe not so much after getting Dinwiddie, but maybe Tristan Thompson to replace KP’s rebounding?

RogerGodahell · 02-10-2022, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FT35

Anyone think they will chase buyouts? Dragic maybe not so much after getting Dinwiddie, but maybe Tristan Thompson to replace KP’s rebounding?

I was kind of hoping since POR is in blowup mode they would have gone after Nurkic.

02-10-2022, 02:39 PM	#23976
jrnelson Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,256 jrnelson2	Kp for Dinwiddie & Dāvis Bertāns __________________ Collect: Luka Doncic, NFL Panini HOF 50th Anniversary Signatures, LF:2001 Donruss Classics Significant Signature Auto Lawrence Taylor and the Reggie Jackson https://www.flickr.com/photos/59383471@N08/albums Luka PC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/59383471@N08/albums/72157712493927823/ Last edited by jrnelson; 02-10-2022 at 02:42 PM.

02-10-2022, 02:52 PM	#23979
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,105	I don’t know what I’m supposed to think about this. Trade KP and get more cap pain? __________________ I love PSA!

02-10-2022, 02:58 PM	#23986
Marshall524 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,201	Agreeing with Dame a couple posts up. Probably easier to maneuver two medium sized salaries versus one large salary for future transactions. Interesting to say the least! __________________ Looking for Laker autos and any rare Maravich! https://flic.kr/s/aHsmNUZtmG

02-10-2022, 03:00 PM	#23988
beavers Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 2,279	Bertans has shot 40% from 3 over his career. That could be helpful. Dinwiddie is kinda weird fit IMO Last edited by beavers; 02-10-2022 at 03:05 PM.

02-10-2022, 03:32 PM	#23994
Matt24 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: South Central Indiana Posts: 592 MattSterling24	Dinwiddie is washed... hopefully this trade brings him back a bit. Bertans has been washed too but maybe can make some open looks. We will see. __________________ Collecting: Indiana Hoosiers Autographs in Uniform, Luka & Tatis

02-10-2022, 02:49 PM	#23977
Blake050 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 573	Bertans is making 16 mil in 2022-23 and 17 mil in 2023-24. Only 5 mil guaranteed in 2024-25. Dinwiddie making 18 mil in 2022-23 and 18.8 in 2023-24. Porzingis making 33 mil in 2022-23 and 36 mil in 2023-24. This move doesn't do much for cap space.

02-10-2022, 02:51 PM	#23978
beavers Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 2,279	Interesting move. Does that that they won’t likely resign Brunson? Dinwiddie is due $18 million both the next two years. Bertrans $16 million the next three.

02-10-2022, 02:53 PM	#23982
Schmoove Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: 301 Posts: 595	They weren't going to unload KP without taking on equivalent salary. Junk for junk trade and you hope the new guys coming in show signs of life.

02-10-2022, 02:56 PM	#23985
bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,960	Zingi is like a mega Durant type, will forever never play a full season without taking time off. Except Zingi never shows up for the playoffs playing, or injured.

02-10-2022, 03:35 PM	#23996
tadams1996 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 426 ponycards22	This gives the Mavs options down the road. With THJ playing subpar this year they weren't going to be able to move him.

02-10-2022, 04:50 PM	#23997
jrnelson Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,256 jrnelson2	Looks like they are locking up DFS. 4 years at $52M __________________ Collect: Luka Doncic, NFL Panini HOF 50th Anniversary Signatures, LF:2001 Donruss Classics Significant Signature Auto Lawrence Taylor and the Reggie Jackson https://www.flickr.com/photos/59383471@N08/albums Luka PC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/59383471@N08/albums/72157712493927823/

02-10-2022, 05:02 PM	#23998
RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	It's not a home run but i don't hate the trade. They'll be easier to move than KP was if they don't work out. Plus it gives them more depth. KP was a non factor because he never plays, they're winning without him. If anything they improved their second unit. At least these guys will give you something compared to KP missing half the season annually.

02-10-2022, 05:24 PM	#23999
FT35 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,188	Anyone think they will chase buyouts? Dragic maybe not so much after getting Dinwiddie, but maybe Tristan Thompson to replace KP’s rebounding?