**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 97

Onepocketj · 06-11-2020, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brewtown107

I did the math for pink refractors in post #2088 in this thread (page 84). Bottom line is we can't know for sure how many there are, because we don't know how much of the product was packed out in the value packs (which had the pink refractors) versus blasters (which did not). Estimates range from a print run of 2400 to as many as 4000. 3000 or 3500 are reasonable estimates in between.

I didn't do the math on the rainbow foils, but I remember someone (I think it was pewe?) saying once that they're at around 2400 or so.

So it's pretty likely that the rainbow foils are a little more rare. And they're probably more condition sensitive too. Without checking, I'd say it's a good bet the PSA 10 population of rainbow foils is much lower than pinks.

That said, I wonder what HMT55 Chrome Update Refractors are going for these days. Those are much more rare yet (numbered to 250) and they were in the ballpark of $600 not too long ago.

Last PSA 10 refractor sold in May for $1500.

nowo21 · 06-11-2020, 08:10 PM

I just subbed my Soto's from my 2018 Update case break. I had 9, sold 3 raw and subbed 6 to BGS... I threw in an HMT55 i had laying around because well why not

stinkus · 06-11-2020, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Last PSA 10 refractor sold in May for $1500.

One sold here last week, and it just arrived....

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a-train10 · 06-12-2020, 12:16 AM

The HMT55 Refractors are my favorite Soto cards. I've shown off a few recently, but this is my full stash! I want a Red!

BosPats1980 · 06-12-2020, 06:20 AM

WOW!!!

Those are awesome!!

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Originally Posted by a-train10

The HMT55 Refractors are my favorite Soto cards. I've shown off a few recently, but this is my full stash! I want a Red!

towerymt · 06-12-2020, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by a-train10

The HMT55 Refractors are my favorite Soto cards. I've shown off a few recently, but this is my full stash! I want a Red!

The HMT55 Refractors are MY favorite Soto cards.

I had an x-fractor but parted with it and one of the /250 last year. Still looking for a gold, though.

brewtown107 · 06-12-2020, 08:14 AM

Some nice collections in here !

craines27mc · 06-12-2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkus

One sold here last week, and it just arrived....

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Looks good!

dbpsooner · 06-12-2020, 09:17 AM

I am a big fan of the update chrome refractor. Unfortunately I just put mine up for auction on eBay (shameless plug I know). I needed to thin my Soto exposure some so am keeping my update hobby cases and selling most of my individual Soto, Acuna and other rookies from 2018.

Zauron · 06-12-2020, 10:02 AM

Man, Soto needs more exposure. Still can't believe Acuna gets more talk.

Soto is the better hitter, still good defensively, average on the base paths.

But he delivered clutch hits in the postseason, killed it in the world series, and yet still pales in comparison in hobby love to Acuna.

Rabs · 06-12-2020, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

Man, Soto needs more exposure. Still can't believe Acuna gets more talk.

Soto is the better hitter, still good defensively, average on the base paths.

But he delivered clutch hits in the postseason, killed it in the world series, and yet still pales in comparison in hobby love to Acuna.

You act like Acuna didn’t do anything in the playoffs.

You are also naive if you still don’t understand why Acuna gets more attention as it has been explained numerous times.

stinkus · 06-12-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by craines27mc

Looks good!

Thanks again for the deal!!

craines27mc · 06-12-2020, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dbpsooner

I am a big fan of the update chrome refractor. Unfortunately I just put mine up for auction on eBay (shameless plug I know). I needed to thin my Soto exposure some so am keeping my update hobby cases and selling most of my individual Soto, Acuna and other rookies from 2018.

Nice stuff on your page!

deaddeardown · 06-12-2020, 12:32 PM

These refractors are just absolutely beautiful. Glad I grabbed some when I could.

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dbpsooner · 06-12-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by craines27mc

Nice stuff on your page!

Thank you!

rngrdanny22 · 06-12-2020, 12:56 PM

Weirdly enough, refractor is one that I never picked up. That and gold.

I did manage 4 reds though. Holding onto those for the long haul.

Cubsfanp · 06-12-2020, 01:04 PM

Just arrived today.

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lauriontj · 06-12-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Just arrived today.

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Very clean! Love it!

REGGIE206 · 06-12-2020, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Just arrived today.

Nice! That red jersey with red PSA label: FIRE!

Zauron · 06-13-2020, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabs

You act like Acuna didn’t do anything in the playoffs.

You are also naive if you still don’t understand why Acuna gets more attention as it has been explained numerous times.

Cool story bro.

Still doesn't explain why Soto is so underlooked when he helped carry his team to a World Series title and put up a great offensive season as a 20 year old.

I simply stated I feel Soto should have more talk is all. Acuna deserves what he has going, I feel Soto should be more similar than on a lower tier.

BTownCards · 06-13-2020, 06:31 AM

Easy bro’s, I suggest the buddy system.

You think these guys got where they were because they dressed like Peter Pan over here ?

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pewe · 06-13-2020, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deaddeardown

These refractors are just absolutely beautiful. Glad I grabbed some when I could.

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I’m jealous!!! This is my dream card to get one day

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JoeAdam · 06-13-2020, 10:41 AM

Sold a PSA 10 refractor /250 and xfractor a couple months ago on here for $2,100 total. Thought it was a good price, probably should have held.

Rabs · 06-13-2020, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

Cool story bro.

Still doesn't explain why Soto is so underlooked when he helped carry his team to a World Series title and put up a great offensive season as a 20 year old.

I simply stated I feel Soto should have more talk is all. Acuna deserves what he has going, I feel Soto should be more similar than on a lower tier.

It’s all good I wasn’t trying to start an argument.

I like Soto and think he is amazing for his age. I agree he is underlooked/undervalued.

But I 100% understand why he trails Acuna in both popularity and hobby value.

Soto’s prices have seen a rise over the past year no doubt about it.

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a-train10 · 06-13-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Weirdly enough, refractor is one that I never picked up. That and gold.

I did manage 4 reds though. Holding onto those for the long haul.

You may have posted them before, but would love to see a scan of all four! Very impressive!

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Zauron Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,594	Man, Soto needs more exposure. Still can't believe Acuna gets more talk. Soto is the better hitter, still good defensively, average on the base paths. But he delivered clutch hits in the postseason, killed it in the world series, and yet still pales in comparison in hobby love to Acuna. __________________ Champ Bailey Collector! Currently: 909/2602 hermanotarjeta: You've been BRIOSED!!!!!!!!!

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JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,996 sjoteo joeadam	Sold a PSA 10 refractor /250 and xfractor a couple months ago on here for $2,100 total. Thought it was a good price, probably should have held. __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

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nowo21 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 887	I just subbed my Soto's from my 2018 Update case break. I had 9, sold 3 raw and subbed 6 to BGS... I threw in an HMT55 i had laying around because well why not

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brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,236 brewtown107	Some nice collections in here !

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dbpsooner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 2,987 dbpsooner	I am a big fan of the update chrome refractor. Unfortunately I just put mine up for auction on eBay (shameless plug I know). I needed to thin my Soto exposure some so am keeping my update hobby cases and selling most of my individual Soto, Acuna and other rookies from 2018.

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deaddeardown Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 826	These refractors are just absolutely beautiful. Glad I grabbed some when I could. Sent from my LG-LS997 using Tapatalk

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rngrdanny22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 12,372	Weirdly enough, refractor is one that I never picked up. That and gold. I did manage 4 reds though. Holding onto those for the long haul.

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