2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

You care about the 150,000 people that die every day? Why aren't we pushing to close fast food joints, wearing masks 24/7 to prevent all viruses from spreading, pushing to end abortion (even if you are pro-choice, there's "abortions" that happen post birth), forcing people to exercise an hour a day, etc etc. We, as the general sense, don't care about deaths.

Bill Maher had a strong bit about bringing fat shaming to the forefront instead of fat acceptance. I think stopping fatties should be one of America’s next crusades. Put it in the queue once we’re done with BLM and Corona.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Bill Maher had a strong bit about bringing fat shaming to the forefront instead of fat acceptance. I think stopping fatties should be one of America’s next crusades. Put it in the queue once we’re done with BLM and Corona.

Well that's an easy way to get the Blowout Forums to dislike you.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Everyone here does, well, I think haha. At least for COVID they do. Aroldis Chapman said it best though a post above ya, we never cared about a random person dying until this year. That doesn't mean we aren't compassionate, it's just the facts.

Here we go again.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Bill Maher had a strong bit about bringing fat shaming to the forefront instead of fat acceptance. I think stopping fatties should be one of America’s next crusades. Put it in the queue once we’re done with BLM and Corona.

He’s not wrong either.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Why is this gross? They were protecting there private property in a gated community?

I am talking about his salmon-colored polo.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by marl1220

Here we go again.

You don't like it but look at our past history and the past 3 months. We wear masks now but don't during the flu season. We have always been decent human beings, and we will as a whole. But now, we have people that are upset that places are open because people are still dying. With that mindset, everything should be closed, literally forever.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

You don't like it but look at our past history and the past 3 months. We wear masks now but don't during the flu season. We have always been decent human beings, and we will as a whole. But now, we have people that are upset that places are open because people are still dying. With that mindset, everything should be closed, literally forever.

Are there other ways to help prevent the flu that isnt available for covid currently?

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

You don't like it but look at our past history and the past 3 months. We wear masks now but don't during the flu season. We have always been decent human beings, and we will as a whole. But now, we have people that are upset that places are open because people are still dying. With that mindset, everything should be closed, literally forever.

You constantly use the word "we" when saying that people never cared about people dying before the virus. If you want to say that you didn't care before, or now, that's fine. Claiming that "we" didn't care before now is your opinion, not fact.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by marl1220

You constantly use the word "we" when saying that people never cared about people dying before the virus. If you want to say that you didn't care before, or now, that's fine. Claiming that "we" didn't care before now is your opinion, not fact.

come on now, we is a common term for the majority.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Are there other ways to help prevent the flu that isnt available for covid currently?

Yes, but a lot of people still die from it, and we don't shut everything down.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I am talking about his salmon-colored polo.

My apologies...

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by marl1220

You constantly use the word "we" when saying that people never cared about people dying before the virus. If you want to say that you didn't care before, or now, that's fine. Claiming that "we" didn't care before now is your opinion, not fact.

On the flip side, you can claim that YOU cared about random people dying before, but it is doubtful that you cared enough to do more than type about it on a message board.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I'd like to address this specifically if I may.

There are no less than 200 injustices going on in the world at this very moment; effecting the lives of millions and billions. China just swallowed Hong Kong; an event that will have far greater impact on your life and my life than anything COVID related. An event that is likely to shape global policy for years and years to come. Do you care as much about the deaths/jailings of protesters there as you do things here? Probably not, no. And there's a simply reason.

If for four months you were told 24/7 that this World event was massive, that it could impact you and your family in a way you can't imagine and that your way of life could change as a result of this event, you would care. You would care tremendously. It's what your family would talk about when you see them, it's what your kids would ask you about when they came home from school, it's what you'd hear in passing conversation at the grocery store. It would become important to you if for nothing else than it's now part of your daily life.

To be able to break away from that, and think independently of what you are told to think and to feel independently of what you are told to feel is a blessing. I hope that more and more people find this one day and are no longer attached to the media / social media as they are today. There's a reason depression is so prevalent; there's a reason why overdoses are so common, there's a reason why there's so much division and hate online.

Because it's working. 99%+ of every story you read, every news program you watch is about all the pain in the world. Who wouldn't get depressed constantly being told death is coming, people are starving, rapes are happening, murders are prevalent and your President is actually OK with killing his own people.

So I post a graph last night that shows deaths are dwindling, and the response is two fold "How can you be so happy?" and "Don't you have compassion for the dead?". Your life and my life doesn't have to be so terrible; you are allowed to have fun, love things, enjoy the company of others and generally do the best you can to help people around you live a better life. It's OK to be positive, it's OK to be happy and to express that happiness. Don't let anyone ever tell you anything different.

So if you want to be selectively outraged at issue #1720, you go right ahead. But I'm good over here.

Bravo, my friend.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by rman112

Well that's an easy way to get the Blowout Forums to dislike you.

I know. I hope it works.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

come on now, we is a common term for the majority.

So the majority of people don't/didn't care about people dying?

[marl1220]

It's about damn time. This should have happened way before now.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/se...ers/index.html

[rman112]

Originally Posted by marl1220

It's about damn time. This should have happened way before now.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/se...ers/index.html

Shame. Seemed like a good idea?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Bravo, my friend.

Is my phone broken? I think I have to get a new phone ... it's broken!

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the majority of people don't/didn't care about people dying?

Not sure if you're serious, but no, absolutely not. Most people don't care that strangers are dying. Just an FYI, people were dying before COVID. What were you doing about all of those deaths?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the majority of people don't/didn't care about people dying?

It wasn’t a “thing” in the media where everyone was told to take every measure possible to preserve life before the Coronavirus. I don’t think people are excited for deaths, but what’s being implied is that we go through life every day without stopping to think about 99.9999% of the deaths that take place around the world.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the majority of people don't/didn't care about people dying?

i made referene to the term, not that i agree or disagree with their statement.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the majority of people don't/didn't care about people dying?

Imagine if I started off every morning in this thread telling you about how many people passed away yesterday from heart disease. Imagine if I posted some of their pictures and their stories. Imagine if there was a counter online to track this by state, and you knew how many people in your state, your city, or town (A) had heart disease and (B) recently died. Now imagine the media did this and it was everywhere.

You would likely feel very differently about a group of people and swath of citizens in this country you never actually sat down and cared about before. I used the word "cared" because while you likely know of their existence and of heart disease, it's in the distance. Exactly where all of the other deaths and causes are. In the distance.

You ultimately have a choice. You can choose to bring those causes into your life or you can keep them in the distance. For COVID, Americans were not given a choice. It has been beaten into us that we should care about this, serve the greater good and do what we are told to do. Again, no thank you.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

It wasn’t a “thing” in the media where everyone was told to take every measure possible to preserve life before the Coronavirus. I don’t think people are excited for deaths, but what’s being implied is that we go through life every day without stopping to think about 99.9999% of the deaths that take place around the world.

Thinking and caring are two different things so I agree with your point. I don't think anyone can say that they think, daily, about all the deaths happening in the world.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Imagine if I started off every morning in this thread telling you about how many people passed away yesterday from heart disease. Imagine if I posted some of their pictures and their stories. Imagine if there was a counter online to track this by state, and you knew how many people in your state, your city, or town (A) had heart disease and (B) recently died. Now imagine the media did this and it was everywhere.

Please don't. Nobody cares.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I'd like to address this specifically if I may.

There are no less than 200 injustices going on in the world at this very moment; effecting the lives of millions and billions. China just swallowed Hong Kong; an event that will have far greater impact on your life and my life than anything COVID related. An event that is likely to shape global policy for years and years to come. Do you care as much about the deaths/jailings of protesters there as you do things here? Probably not, no. And there's a simply reason.

If for four months you were told 24/7 that this World event was massive, that it could impact you and your family in a way you can't imagine and that your way of life could change as a result of this event, you would care. You would care tremendously. It's what your family would talk about when you see them, it's what your kids would ask you about when they came home from school, it's what you'd hear in passing conversation at the grocery store. It would become important to you if for nothing else than it's now part of your daily life.

To be able to break away from that, and think independently of what you are told to think and to feel independently of what you are told to feel is a blessing. I hope that more and more people find this one day and are no longer attached to the media / social media as they are today. There's a reason depression is so prevalent; there's a reason why overdoses are so common, there's a reason why there's so much division and hate online.

Because it's working. 99%+ of every story you read, every news program you watch is about all the pain in the world. Who wouldn't get depressed constantly being told death is coming, people are starving, rapes are happening, murders are prevalent and your President is actually OK with killing his own people.

So I post a graph last night that shows deaths are dwindling, and the response is two fold "How can you be so happy?" and "Don't you have compassion for the dead?". Your life and my life doesn't have to be so terrible; you are allowed to have fun, love things, enjoy the company of others and generally do the best you can to help people around you live a better life. It's OK to be positive, it's OK to be happy and to express that happiness. Don't let anyone ever tell you anything different.

So if you want to be selectively outraged at issue #1720, you go right ahead. But I'm good over here.

Unsurprisingly I do....

Works both ways with people believing the media/ president saying its not a big deal. Covid isnt as bad as the left wants you to think, but not as minor as trump and the right says it is.

Not saying you should always be sad /depressed from thinking about death(etc) , but saying death happens every second isnt an excuse for not having any compassion towards strangers who have died.