WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[duwal]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I'm okay with Reigns losing the title even if it's to a part timer. Just more likely Reigns is winning the Universal title at Royal Rumble.

[DaKidder]

This made me LOL...then realized it's probably 100% accurate

Braun...you know what match to interfere in

[Nyfancam01]

JERICHO is Us champ! YESSSSSS
Drink it innnn mannnnnnnn

the G.O.A.T !!!!!!

Roman will never eeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrrrr be on his level!

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I'm okay with Reigns losing the title even if it's to a part timer. Just more likely Reigns is winning the Universal title at Royal Rumble.

I consider "part timers" As Undertaker, Lesnar, Goldberg, and The Rock (when he's there). When Jericho comes back he usually is around a year or more, plus he tends to put guys over. Either way was happy to see him take the title. Sadly this is probably meaning Roman wins the Universal title. Which if thats the case, they can't be thinking Roman vs Strowman at Mania can they?!

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by BestRCs

After watching Okada Omega. I think I'm done watching wrestling for awhile.

The bar is too high right now. Really ruined all the other matches I've seen since that one. Lol.

Was a good match, but I will say it did have moments where it dragged and probably would have been better if it was 10-15 minutes shorter. But not trying to take anything away from it

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Jericho

I consider "part timers" As Undertaker, Lesnar, Goldberg, and The Rock (when he's there). When Jericho comes back he usually is around a year or more, plus he tends to put guys over. Either way was happy to see him take the title. Sadly this is probably meaning Roman wins the Universal title. Which if thats the case, they can't be thinking Roman vs Strowman at Mania can they?!

Doesn't look like it's going in that direction any longer. Last night they showed that 2 second clip of Strowman watching the Undertaker, looks like that's where their heading. My guess: Taker knocks the big man out. Strowman is pissed, goes nuts and destroys the Undertaker knocking him out of the match. Several weeks go by and then the dark spooky promos start leading to their match at WM.

My other predictions now for Mania:

Owens vs Jericho for the US Title - Jericho costs Owens the match at the rumble somehow. A rematch at the next PPV leads to another Owens loss and then the split of the best friends happen.

Goldberg vs Lesnar - Pretty much a given I believe.

Roman vs Finn Balor for the Universal Championship - Honestly I can't think of someone who will win the rumble match if the other matches above happen. Either Balor makes a surprise return at the Rumble and wins, or comebacks shortly after the rumble and after the Reigns vs Owens feud wanting his shot back at the title he never lost. Also it makes sense to have these two because if you remember, Balor beat Reigns for the shot at the Universal Title, leading Reigns to say something about wanting a rematch down the line.

Seth Rollins vs Triple H - The match that was suppose to happen last year will take place this year.

Bayley vs Charlotte for the Women's title - I would guess a 3-way with Sasha, but they did a 3-way last year so idk if they will do that again. Bayley gets screwed at the Rumble, eventually leading to the rematch at WM.

John Cena vs. AJ Styles for the WWE Championship - If Balor doesn't win the rumble, then I think John Cena could. Cena loses at the Rumble to Styles, and makes a surprise entrance into the rumble match winning it. Or Cena gets screwed at the Rumble leading to their rematch at Mania. In any event, I think WWE wants Cena's record tying title win to happen at Mania and not the Rumble.

Cesaro and Sheamus vs. The New Day - Honestly I have no idea what they have planned for the titles. I'm guessing New Day turns heel and leads to another match.

American Alpha vs ???? - No idea, they will have a match but I couldn't tell you.

Randy Orton vs. Bray - Tension has been teased for a while. They will split the next couple weeks and lead to their match.

Alexa Bliss vs. ?????? - No clue

Shane McMahon vs ??????? - Rumors are still out there he will be wrestling somebody, just not sure who yet. Originally thought it would be Brock, but now Goldberg is back. Then Strowman, but it appears he will face Taker. Not sure who else it could be.

Intercontinental Championship Ladder match - here is where a bunch of Smackdown guys like Ambrose, Ziggler, Miz and Corbin get their match.

Andre the Giant BR - Where all the geeks come in, one or two NXT guys (Tye Dillinger).

Big Show vs. Shaq - Will be dumb.

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Doesn't look like it's going in that direction any longer. Last night they showed that 2 second clip of Strowman watching the Undertaker, looks like that's where their heading. My guess: Taker knocks the big man out. Strowman is pissed, goes nuts and destroys the Undertaker knocking him out of the match. Several weeks go by and then the dark spooky promos start leading to their match at WM.

My other predictions now for Mania:

Owens vs Jericho for the US Title - Jericho costs Owens the match at the rumble somehow. A rematch at the next PPV leads to another Owens loss and then the split of the best friends happen.

Goldberg vs Lesnar - Pretty much a given I believe.

Roman vs Finn Balor for the Universal Championship - Honestly I can't think of someone who will win the rumble match if the other matches above happen. Either Balor makes a surprise return at the Rumble and wins, or comebacks shortly after the rumble and after the Reigns vs Owens feud wanting his shot back at the title he never lost. Also it makes sense to have these two because if you remember, Balor beat Reigns for the shot at the Universal Title, leading Reigns to say something about wanting a rematch down the line.

Seth Rollins vs Triple H - The match that was suppose to happen last year will take place this year.

Bayley vs Charlotte for the Women's title - I would guess a 3-way with Sasha, but they did a 3-way last year so idk if they will do that again. Bayley gets screwed at the Rumble, eventually leading to the rematch at WM.

John Cena vs. AJ Styles for the WWE Championship - If Balor doesn't win the rumble, then I think John Cena could. Cena loses at the Rumble to Styles, and makes a surprise entrance into the rumble match winning it. Or Cena gets screwed at the Rumble leading to their rematch at Mania. In any event, I think WWE wants Cena's record tying title win to happen at Mania and not the Rumble.

Cesaro and Sheamus vs. The New Day - Honestly I have no idea what they have planned for the titles. I'm guessing New Day turns heel and leads to another match.

American Alpha vs ???? - No idea, they will have a match but I couldn't tell you.

Randy Orton vs. Bray - Tension has been teased for a while. They will split the next couple weeks and lead to their match.

Alexa Bliss vs. ?????? - No clue

Shane McMahon vs ??????? - Rumors are still out there he will be wrestling somebody, just not sure who yet. Originally thought it would be Brock, but now Goldberg is back. Then Strowman, but it appears he will face Taker. Not sure who else it could be.

Intercontinental Championship Ladder match - here is where a bunch of Smackdown guys like Ambrose, Ziggler, Miz and Corbin get their match.

Andre the Giant BR - Where all the geeks come in, one or two NXT guys (Tye Dillinger).

Big Show vs. Shaq - Will be dumb.

u forgot the uk and crusierweight titles
plus whatever other title they create by then

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by gorillaz

Wrestlemania 34 taking place at Mercedes-Benz... Again. Yep. They hosted 30 as well.

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

It's because they cities have the money to bid on them. Other cities should start bidding higher.

Actually, while I'm sure the bid was high, the big selling point New Orleans made was next year is the cities Tri-Centennial. So they are going to be recognizing many different things that have made the city great, and one of the things they really wanted to recognize and push is wrestling, so WWE wants to be a part of that.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

u forgot the uk and crusierweight titles
plus whatever other title they create by then

True, more filler matches imo though. They don't push or hardly recognize the cruiserweights at all, and I'm sure they will do the same with the UK guys. Though a heel Neville defending his title at WM should be a really good match.

[gorillaz]

Supposedly, Dillinger may be debuting at Rumble.

[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by Ty Hope

This exactly. My god was that match amazing. Everything in the wwe feels minor league when compared to that level.

And now Reigns in the title hunt again? lol What a farce.

Yup. It really does. WWE seems like the minor leagues. NJPW keeps putting out hit after hit and they really get it. From their in ring work, to the production and how they portray their product (shoot like tones). It's "Pro wrestling". Idk what the wwe is selling... I dont think they even know. It's turned into a parody of wrestling.

And yeah man... I keep hoping WWE does something special after they sign some of these top guys from other promotions. Like really pump their promotion/hype machine behind them and showcase some of these guys and make them THE next house hold names but man..... they just sabotage themselves... by murking them. And yeah they just keep showcasing Roman Reigns... Lol. And we all know what Roman is ...he's basically the ellsworth of raw.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by Jericho

I consider "part timers" As Undertaker, Lesnar, Goldberg, and The Rock (when he's there). When Jericho comes back he usually is around a year or more, plus he tends to put guys over. Either way was happy to see him take the title. Sadly this is probably meaning Roman wins the Universal title. Which if thats the case, they can't be thinking Roman vs Strowman at Mania can they?!

To me I consider part timers the guys who can come and go whenever they want. Jericho could leave tomorrow for Fozzy if he wanted (can't now obviously) and be back whenever he wants.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by BestRCs

Yup. It really does. WWE seems like the minor leagues. NJPW keeps putting out hit after hit and they really get it. From their in ring work, to the production and how they portray their product (shoot like tones). It's "Pro wrestling". Idk what the wwe is selling... I dont think they even know. It's turned into a parody of wrestling.

And yeah man... I keep hoping WWE does something special after they sign some of these top guys from other promotions. Like really pump their promotion/hype machine behind them and showcase some of these guys and make them THE next house hold names but man..... they just sabotage themselves... by murking them. And yeah they just keep showcasing Roman Reigns... Lol. And we all know what Roman is ...he's basically the ellsworth of raw.

You are comparing apples and oranges with NJPW and WWE. WWE is the king of them all and NJPW is probably the queen (or however you want to put it). Completely different styles. WWE is much bigger marketing than NJPW and story telling where as NJPW focus more on just the wrestling aspect of it. Comparing the two is like comparing TNA to PWG or NXT to ROH, Their not the same.

[nera20]

WWE is heading down the path of MTV, MTV use to play music now they play zero, WWE is down the patch with wrestling there product is so bad might as well not even call it wrestling anymore

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by nera20

WWE is heading down the path of MTV, MTV use to play music now they play zero, WWE is down the patch with wrestling there product is so bad might as well not even call it wrestling anymore

Last time I checked they still wrestle on RAW, SD, PPVs, NXT. So yes it's still okay for them to have wrestling in their name.

[Tblades_17]

Originally Posted by gorillaz

Supposedly, Dillinger may be debuting at Rumble.

Let me guess, #10?

[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

You are comparing apples and oranges with NJPW and WWE. WWE is the king of them all and NJPW is probably the queen (or however you want to put it). Completely different styles. WWE is much bigger marketing than NJPW and story telling where as NJPW focus more on just the wrestling aspect of it. Comparing the two is like comparing TNA to PWG or NXT to ROH, Their not the same.

Oyo mi chico....

I know what they are. I'm comparing fruits thus I am comparing the "apple" (WWE) to the "orange" (NJPW)....

WWE? was a fruit an apple to be exact, theyve always been an apple (i know)... and now they are a pile of poo poo. So NO im not comparing apples to oranges in my fruit comparison like you said in actuality... I am comparing the orange to the poo poo that used to be an apple. And I'm saying the orange is very tasty and in season.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by BestRCs

Oyo mi chico....

I know what they are. I'm comparing fruits thus I am comparing the "apple" (WWE) to the "orange" (NJPW)....

WWE? was a fruit an apple to be exact, theyve always been an apple (i know)... and now they are a pile of poo poo. So NO im not comparing apples to oranges in my fruit comparison like you said in actuality... I am comparing the orange to the poo poo that used to be an apple. And I'm saying the orange is very tasty and in season.

Lmao, I love it.

WWE is king and still doing good numbers. I like NJPW but it's not on the same level in the U.S. WWE can go to Japan and sell out good arenas. I don't think NJPW can do same here.

[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Lmao, I love it.

WWE is king and still doing good numbers. I like NJPW but it's not on the same level in the U.S. WWE can go to Japan and sell out good arenas. I don't think NJPW can do same here.

I really dont understand what that has to do with the price of tea in china....

Mcdonalds gets more customers than the local 5 star whole in the wall but does that mean the food at mcdonalds is better? No.. Sooooo i dont understand what that matters.

Just because a bunch of people are doing it doesnt mean the product is better. Your rebuttals have no substance

I dont care about numbers....... I dont care if they can sell out in japan... I dont care if new japan can sell out here or not... Im talking about what im watching.... and what im enjoying...what I think is better

Anywho.... I'll be there when they come here to the states in mid summer... and I dont care if no one is there....

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

To me I consider part timers the guys who can come and go whenever they want. Jericho could leave tomorrow for Fozzy if he wanted (can't now obviously) and be back whenever he wants.

Well no Jericho I assume signed a contract for however long, so he can't just leave whenever he wants. But I understand what you mean I think

[Wolves4Life]

Cena burying Corbin. No one's shocked.

[Pot Roast]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Cena burying Smackdown. No one's shocked.

my thoughts....

[Ty Hope]

We're going to end up with Cena and Reigns as the champions... There literally couldn't be a worse scenario.

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Cena burying Corbin. No one's shocked.

The term bury is used far too loosely. Just because someone got pinned doesn't mean they were buried. Cena damn sure isn't losing to Corbin just a few weeks away from going up against Styles.

[Pot Roast]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

The term bury is used far too loosely. Just because someone got pinned doesn't mean they were buried. Cena damn sure isn't losing to Corbin just a few weeks away from going up against Styles.

They didn't have to feed Corbin to Cena either, or have him pinned. They did it for a reason, and it's very likely they want to bury him because the WWE is crap.