Anyone else watched Making of a Murderer? - Page 12

jbrandonw · 01-24-2016, 02:12 PM

I don't think people are necessarily saying they known for sure that he's innocent. I just think the trial and investigation was handled horribly, and there wasn't enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he did it. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

matt060488 · 01-24-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jrinne17

This is funny.

I have no relation to anyone in Manitowoc.

Now, did you listen to the Dan O'donnell information?

Yeah was way to one sided for me

death2redemptions · 01-24-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrandonw

I don't think people are necessarily saying they known for sure that he's innocent. I just think the trial and investigation was handled horribly, and there wasn't enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he did it. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

Yup, that's pretty much what got me. Could be innocent, could be guilty but either way, the county did a horrible job handling this case and the law enforcement is corrupt.

IowaCubs1 · 01-25-2016, 10:07 AM

I haven't watched this yet but everything I hear is saying that the Netflix show left out multiple pieces of important information to portray the guy as innocent. I will be watching this.

death2redemptions · 01-25-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaCubs1

I haven't watched this yet but everything I hear is saying that the Netflix show left out multiple pieces of important information to portray the guy as innocent. I will be watching this.

Yup, it was made by the defense lawyers I believe.

But whether or not he did it doesn't really matter. It's what the cops did to convict him.

Cactuspies · 01-25-2016, 02:10 PM

not reading the thread yet. started watching this last night. got through the first 2. the love/hate/deceipt they throw on you in those first 2 hours is crazy.

Clarka3 · 01-25-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by death2redemptions

Yup, it was made by the defense lawyers I believe.

But whether or not he did it doesn't really matter. It's what the cops did to convict him.

nope- made by two ladies.

death2redemptions · 01-25-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarka3

nope- made by two ladies.

Yeah, I was curious who actually put it together. I know the two lawyers were recording the events as the trial was running but not sure if they had planned from the start to make a show of it.

mec7z · 02-04-2016, 08:13 AM

I finally jumped in and started watching last night.
I am 3 episodes in, which is where Brandon "admitted" to being an "accomplice."

The kid is 16 and has a mental issue. STOP (just stop right there)
This has grounds for being inadmissible from him even talking to the cops.
This is not a "friendly chat" this is an interrogation. Any lawyer should be able to get his admission thrown out. He is under age with NO lawyer and has a learning disability?
This is really shoddy police work. I cant believe it went any further from here.

But then it gets worse. The family is not allowed on their own property during a search. This doesnt happen for 1 or 2 days. The authorities have the place to themselves for 8 days.
They do not find the key on the first 2 days. Only on day 3, when the sheriff office is involved?
And whoever was recording walking through the Avery house was making comments that have no place in policing.

There are so many red flags just 3 episodes in. How it got past this point is beyond me.
The appellate court should be revieiwing this.

beaver1080 · 02-04-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mec7z

I finally jumped in and started watching last night.
I am 3 episodes in, which is where Brandon "admitted" to being an "accomplice."

The kid is 16 and has a mental issue. STOP (just stop right there)
This has grounds for being inadmissible from him even talking to the cops.
This is not a "friendly chat" this is an interrogation. Any lawyer should be able to get his admission thrown out. He is under age with NO lawyer and has a learning disability?
This is really shoddy police work. I cant believe it went any further from here.

But then it gets worse. The family is not allowed on their own property during a search. This doesnt happen for 1 or 2 days. The authorities have the place to themselves for 8 days.
They do not find the key on the first 2 days. Only on day 3, when the sheriff office is involved?
And whoever was recording walking through the Avery house was making comments that have no place in policing.

There are so many red flags just 3 episodes in. How it got past this point is beyond me.
The appellate court should be revieiwing this.

my thoughts exactly, even if the show was a little skewed there's enough crap that it shouldn't have gone further. but wait, it get's worse

mainerunr · 02-04-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrandonw

I don't think people are necessarily saying they known for sure that he's innocent. I just think the trial and investigation was handled horribly, and there wasn't enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he did it. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

And there's the rub, you were not in the court room. Your analysis is based solely on one view that could easily have left out key evidence that the jury got to see. Maybe there was enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he did it.

Just because they call it a documentary does not mean it is not slanted in its view or that it presents all of the available information. These women had an opinion and they made sure what they showed you supported their opinion.

I really cannot fathom how people have bought into this. A show with a clear agenda shows you everything that supports that agenda but leaves out key information that completely invalidates their position. Sounds almost like politics...

StraightFlush7 · 02-07-2016, 11:54 AM

Man, why am I one of the few who just can't get past the first episode. I wish I could see what you all are seeing. I just don't get the appeal

matt060488 · 02-07-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightFlush7

Man, why am I one of the few who just can't get past the first episode. I wish I could see what you all are seeing. I just don't get the appeal

You have left me confused

tacoma34 · 02-07-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightFlush7

Man, why am I one of the few who just can't get past the first episode. I wish I could see what you all are seeing. I just don't get the appeal

You are really goin on a terror through the off topic section.

Clarka3 · 02-07-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightFlush7

Man, why am I one of the few who just can't get past the first episode. I wish I could see what you all are seeing. I just don't get the appeal

well, you kinda have to watch the whole thing to "get" it i guess.

glen87 · 07-20-2016, 09:52 AM

Making a Murderer is getting a Season 2 and we have so many questions

round 2

pingbling23 · 07-20-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

Making a Murderer is getting a Season 2 and we have so many questions

round 2

How fitting, that article is as biased and one sided as the show lol. I was excited when i heard the news there was going to be a season 2 but thought it was said it was going to be a new case?

moose84 · 07-20-2016, 10:11 PM

Sweet, I'll watch it

Cant wait for season 2 of Narcos as well

housecore · 07-24-2016, 04:28 PM

I always passed on this show....ill have to give it a go later tonite

ilovethelakings · 07-24-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by housecore

I always passed on this show....ill have to give it a go later tonite

I did that too for a while, but finally caved in and watched it. Glad I did. No matter your POV on what happened, it makes for one hell of a story.

housecore · 07-25-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovethelakings

I did that too for a while, but finally caved in and watched it. Glad I did. No matter your POV on what happened, it makes for one hell of a story.

lol...I wasn't able to watch it yesterday but def plan to later today or sometime tomo...if I end up liking it ill prob try to watch the whole season by end of week...

37Jetson · 07-25-2016, 09:07 PM

Ah, don't cha know that an Avery cannot get a fair trial in Manitowoc County.

I have seen many of the sites from the movie and have been in a few of the bars of Season 1. I always said there was something in the water in Manitowoc and this series more than proves that point.

Big · 08-12-2016, 03:24 PM

BREAKING: Federal Judge Throws Out Brendan Dassey?s Conviction | LawNewz

TheFrenzy · 08-12-2016, 03:30 PM

Awesome news. Hoping they'll reopen Avery's case.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wisn.re...?client=safari

jbrandonw · 08-12-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Awesome news. Hoping they'll reopen Avery's case.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wisn.re...?client=safari

Yeah that's crazy. I was just about to post the same thing.

01-24-2016, 02:12 PM	#276
jbrandonw Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,348 Jbrandonw	I don't think people are necessarily saying they known for sure that he's innocent. I just think the trial and investigation was handled horribly, and there wasn't enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he did it. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around. __________________ I collect mainly Dallas Mavericks. Especially Dirk, Luka, and the 2011 championship guys.

01-25-2016, 10:07 AM	#279
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07-20-2016, 10:11 PM	#293
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02-04-2016, 08:13 AM	#284
mec7z Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 305	I finally jumped in and started watching last night. I am 3 episodes in, which is where Brandon "admitted" to being an "accomplice." The kid is 16 and has a mental issue. STOP (just stop right there) This has grounds for being inadmissible from him even talking to the cops. This is not a "friendly chat" this is an interrogation. Any lawyer should be able to get his admission thrown out. He is under age with NO lawyer and has a learning disability? This is really shoddy police work. I cant believe it went any further from here. But then it gets worse. The family is not allowed on their own property during a search. This doesnt happen for 1 or 2 days. The authorities have the place to themselves for 8 days. They do not find the key on the first 2 days. Only on day 3, when the sheriff office is involved? And whoever was recording walking through the Avery house was making comments that have no place in policing. There are so many red flags just 3 episodes in. How it got past this point is beyond me. The appellate court should be revieiwing this.

02-07-2016, 11:54 AM	#287
StraightFlush7 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 24	Man, why am I one of the few who just can't get past the first episode. I wish I could see what you all are seeing. I just don't get the appeal

07-24-2016, 04:28 PM	#294
housecore Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 622	I always passed on this show....ill have to give it a go later tonite

07-25-2016, 09:07 PM	#297
37Jetson Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 12,861 Tigers1984WS	Ah, don't cha know that an Avery cannot get a fair trial in Manitowoc County. I have seen many of the sites from the movie and have been in a few of the bars of Season 1. I always said there was something in the water in Manitowoc and this series more than proves that point. __________________ *Collecting Vintage Detroit Tigers*

08-12-2016, 03:24 PM	#298
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08-12-2016, 03:30 PM	#299
TheFrenzy Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 43,518	Awesome news. Hoping they'll reopen Avery's case. https://www.google.com/amp/s/wisn.re...?client=safari __________________ The 2024 Blowout Awards nomination thread is live @ https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1582637

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