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Old 05-26-2018, 09:00 AM   #26
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Not when you consider all the BS Jordan did he should have gotten the Pete Rose treatment, and what MLB went through with Rose is why they let Jordan keep his rep. Point Shaving, Betting on Games, Betting on NBA GAMES, Gambling, Illegal betting and with some of the biggest DRUG kingpins in the world. Great ball player POS Gambling Addict.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:01 AM   #27
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Not when you consider all the BS Jordan did he should have gotten the Pete Rose treatment, and what MLB went through with Rose is why they let Jordan keep his rep. Point Shaving, Betting on Games, Betting on NBA GAMES, Gambling, Illegal betting and with some of the biggest DRUG kingpins in the world. Great ball player POS Gambling Addict.
Any evidence about point shaving or betting on NBA games? Never heard that one before. Wonder what he could stand to gain from point shaving when he was a walking billboard.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:05 AM   #28
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He has needed 7 games to beat Victor Oladipo and a Celtics team missing their 2 best players. And he swept one of the weakest #1 seeds of all time in Toronto. No one thought Toronto had a chance to do anything this year.

Sure he's making 8 straight finals against a weak East. We all see what happens when he faces any real competition.
Somehow Lebron's always playing weak teams. Crazy how if a team isn't Golden State level they stink. The Warriors and Rockets are historically great, not just real competition. If Lebron gets to play a little tougher teams before the finals and makes less final appearances, but plays the Jason Kidd Nets and AI sixers instead of the greatest team ever every year suddenly he's a better player? Naaaaaah. Terrible logic.

The Mavericks loss is the only finals he deserves any hate for really, and he's not that guy anymore.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #29
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Not when you consider all the BS Jordan did he should have gotten the Pete Rose treatment, and what MLB went through with Rose is why they let Jordan keep his rep. Point Shaving, Betting on Games, Betting on NBA GAMES, Gambling, Illegal betting and with some of the biggest DRUG kingpins in the world. Great ball player POS Gambling Addict.
Just as much proof on these claims as the Lebron PED claims.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:09 AM   #30
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Somehow Lebron's always playing weak teams. Crazy how if a team isn't Golden State level they stink. The Warriors and Rockets are historically great, not just real competition. If Lebron gets to play a little tougher teams before the finals and makes less final appearances, but plays the Jason Kidd Nets and AI sixers instead of the greatest team ever every year suddenly he's a better player? Naaaaaah. Terrible logic.

The Mavericks loss is the only finals he deserves any hate for really, and he's not that guy anymore.
The East has been weak for the last 20 years. The only competition James was going to have was the Bulls, but Rose got hurt. It's not Lebrons fault that he didn't have competition. But it makes the 8 finals appearances stat overrated. The only legit title contender he beat in the east was the 2010-11 Bulls.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:10 AM   #31
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Interesting we start at 2011 and don't go over his entire career....
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:13 AM   #32
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Just as much proof on these claims as the Lebron PED claims.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ment_id=624450

Look into what he says, there's even been books written on the subject and there's court records also. United States v. James L. Bouler, United States of America v. James L. Bouler, 21 F.3d 425 (4th Cir. 1994)

Remember it was before the internet so it was easier to hush things up back then.

Never said he wasn't a NBA Great but to put him on a mantle as such a great person is BS, he is and was not a good person.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:23 AM   #33
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ment_id=624450

Look into what he says, there's even been books written on the subject and there's court records also. United States v. James L. Bouler, United States of America v. James L. Bouler, 21 F.3d 425 (4th Cir. 1994)

Remember it was before the internet so it was easier to hush things up back then.

Never said he wasn't a NBA Great but to put him on a mantle as such a great person is BS, he is and was not a good person.
The author sounds like he’s not even convinced of his own theory. It sounds like something someone on here could’ve written.

Any credible evidence besides someone’s it could be true theory?

Also where do you see MJ being promoted as a great person?

With MJ it’s always about basketball as far as I see. The Lebron crowd is always touting what a great human Lebron is.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:30 AM   #34
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ment_id=624450

Look into what he says, there's even been books written on the subject and there's court records also. United States v. James L. Bouler, United States of America v. James L. Bouler, 21 F.3d 425 (4th Cir. 1994)

Remember it was before the internet so it was easier to hush things up back then.

Never said he wasn't a NBA Great but to put him on a mantle as such a great person is BS, he is and was not a good person.
Who ever called Jordan a great person?
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:30 AM   #35
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Hey, a positive Lebron thread. We must troll and bring Lebron down at all cost!!!
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:34 AM   #36
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Interesting we start at 2011 and don't go over his entire career....
And they fail to mention how he was bailed out by Ray Allen against the Spurs.

Great all game until the final 4 minutes of regulation and overtime.

4 turnovers, 2-7 shooting. Thank you Ray Allen.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:36 AM   #37
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Lebron James flops. Flopping is basically lying. Liars are bad people. Therefore, Lebron is a bad person.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:41 AM   #38
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Somehow Lebron's always playing weak teams. Crazy how if a team isn't Golden State level they stink. The Warriors and Rockets are historically great, not just real competition. If Lebron gets to play a little tougher teams before the finals and makes less final appearances, but plays the Jason Kidd Nets and AI sixers instead of the greatest team ever every year suddenly he's a better player? Naaaaaah. Terrible logic.

The Mavericks loss is the only finals he deserves any hate for really, and he's not that guy anymore.
White people amirite
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:44 AM   #39
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And they fail to mention how he was bailed out by Ray Allen against the Spurs.

Great all game until the final 4 minutes of regulation and overtime.

4 turnovers, 2-7 shooting. Thank you Ray Allen.
You're not allowed to mention these things around here man. LeBron is GOAT.

Personally I'll take Tim Duncan.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:45 AM   #40
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What's the O/U on number of weeks before this dude is gone?
What exactly did I say that is not true? Noticing jaw growth size? slim pictures? stories published about hgh and balco?

Not sure what the issue is here. Just pointing out evidence on a sports thread.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:46 AM   #41
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And they fail to mention how he was bailed out by Ray Allen against the Spurs.

Great all game until the final 4 minutes of regulation and overtime.

4 turnovers, 2-7 shooting. Thank you Ray Allen.
Is that the game Lebron hit a late 3 to get them in position for the ray 3 to matter and when Lebron scored or assisted on all points in overtime?
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:48 AM   #42
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Man great stats since 2011, in the 7 years since then he got 3 rings. Jordan got 6 rings in a span of 7 years.

Yeah but but but lmao
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lol this is the first I heard about Jordan betting on games. He loved to gamble on golf and go to casino's. Never heard about games.

Ive read the jordan rules and all the dirt on Jordan. He's an assassin and not a great person overall, but he didn't cheat the game from what I know. He's a winner 6-0.

I doubt you haven't heard about lebron's PED use

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Old 05-26-2018, 09:52 AM   #44
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I had no idea Lebron was Amish.
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is lebron playing against bird, mchale, and parish? oh wait he's playing against a team with no all stars....

i hope the cavs win game 7 just to see them get embarrassed in the finals
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Yes, Larry Bird.

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The East has been weak for the last 20 years. The only competition James was going to have was the Bulls, but Rose got hurt. It's not Lebrons fault that he didn't have competition. But it makes the 8 finals appearances stat overrated. The only legit title contender he beat in the east was the 2010-11 Bulls.
Jordan won every single series in the East (except for this 1995 comeback) from 1990 to 1998, and almost never had to play a game 7, but the East was strong back then, so he is the GOAT (or is it "But he is the GOAT, therefore the East must have been strong back then"?).

LeBron wins every series in the East from 2011 to now, played quite a few game 7, but it is because te East has been very weak, and LeBron had it easy.

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Old 05-26-2018, 12:58 PM   #49
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And they fail to mention how he was bailed out by Ray Allen against the Spurs.

Great all game until the final 4 minutes of regulation and overtime.

4 turnovers, 2-7 shooting. Thank you Ray Allen.
And by that logic Jordan got bailed out by John Paxton.

Or did we forget about that?

It's a team game for a reason, guys. People talk about Barry Bonds as the greatest or an all time great because of his stats and seem to ignore his lack of chanpionship success.


But for Lebron, 3 (thus far, plenty of good years left) isn't enough to be amongst the best of the best.
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And by that logic Jordan got bailed out by John Paxton.

Or did we forget about that?

It's a team game for a reason, guys. People talk about Barry Bonds as the greatest or an all time great because of his stats and seem to ignore his lack of chanpionship success.


But for Lebron, 3 (thus far, plenty of good years left) isn't enough to be amongst the best of the best.
1. Paxson hit a 3 for the win in game 6 when they were up 3-2, if they lose they are not out the same way the Heat would’ve been out so not an apples to apples comparison

2. Barry Bonds or any baseball player cannot influence an outcome of a game the way a basketball player or a quarterback can

3. I’m pretty sure 90% or more on this site think Lebron is among the best of the best, just not #1. It’s not an insult to say he could be 2-7 with names like Bird, Magic, Wilt, Russell, and Kareem

I think most have him right in that mix

I feel like you know this already though
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