First Buzz: 2018 Topps Heritage baseball cards

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by jeeep

Another one just sold for 1299 shipped. so at what price is the "tilting"price? BTW, 25,000 positive feedback too.

It sold for 1299 because it was priced at 1299. If I list one of my cases for 1199 it will sell for 1199. That doesn't mean the market is dropping.

[jeeep]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

It certainly could be. I believe in business ethics. If an LCS was weighing boxes, searching packs, or laundering money I'd absolutely question or even advertise those ethics to warn others.

Giving your top customers a good deal, however, is not part of that conversation IMO.

Maybe not the best choice of words, however, selling a box at OVER 50% more just because i'm not a regular customer is outrageous.

[jeeep]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

It sold for 1299 because it was priced at 1299. If I list one of my cases for 1199 it will sell for 1199. That doesn't mean the market is dropping.

Well, if you listed a case at 1499 and it sold does that mean that the market is rising?

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by jeeep

Well, if you listed a case at 1499 and it sold does that mean that the market is rising?

Depends. If all the cases priced lower than mine sold, and my 1499 was the next lowest and sold, then you'd suspect the market is certainly better than 1200-1400. If the next lowest sells at 1550, and then 1600....of course you'd have evidence of a strong market. But if someone bought mine at 1499 while other cheaper ones were still available, then I'd assume they were just more comfortable with my feedback, or maybe lived closer to me and was hoping for a quicker ship time.

It's a bit different when someone prices below market because those cases will most certainly sell no matter what.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by jeeep

Let me see if YOU understand this, the statement was customer A buys 4 (four) heritage boxes every year, and customer B buys 1 heritage box. Where do you get the figures of 100 (one hundred) different items? Hardly a fair comparison, don't you think????

I don't understand because you make no sense. As I and others are trying to explain to you, if my H customer from the last 15 years wants six boxes of H in 2018, he's getting them for $75.00. If a different customer comes in that i have never seen before and wants six boxes, he's getting them at $125.00. Why is that so hard to get?

[prospects]

I am in for 3 boxes at 96 a piece. I am boss.

[prospects]

Originally Posted by Tim

I don't understand because you make no sense. As I and others are trying to explain to you, if my H customer from the last 15 years wants six boxes of H in 2018, he's getting them for $75.00. If a different customer comes in that i have never seen before and wants six boxes, he's getting them at $125.00. Why is that so hard to get?

because a $50 discount is absurd, that is why it makes no sense.

10-15 a box ok, but FIFTY? come on now.

[Darth Bryzzo]

Originally Posted by jeeep

Maybe not the best choice of words, however, selling a box at OVER 50% more just because i'm not a regular customer is outrageous.

No one forces you or anyone else to pay more for baseball cards than you deem acceptable. As long as nothing is being misrepresented to you to induce you to buy from a particular seller, and as long as there’s no other legal infirmity in a transaction (such as an unlawful discriminatory motive), what that person makes selling to you vs what they made selling to someone else (and why they sold to someone else for a different price than you) is really none of your concern.

And there’s certainly nothing wrong with shop owners rewarding longtime, loyal customers in the manners generally being discussed here. Also wouldn’t be anything wrong with a shop owner, for example, cutting a break to a kid vs an adult if they just personally wanted to do that.

Their stuff, their rules, so long as they aren’t somehow breaking the law. If you don’t like the price offered to you, then don’t buy from that person/business.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by prospects

because a $50 discount is absurd, that is why it makes no sense.

10-15 a box ok, but FIFTY? come on now.

It is not absurd. $75 is full retail. That's my customer's price. But a fly by nighter who just wants a hot product is going to pay market price. I wouldn't care if it was $75 vs. $200 - whatever the market is.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

It sold for 1299 because it was priced at 1299. If I list one of my cases for 1199 it will sell for 1199. That doesn't mean the market is dropping.

Race to the bottom.

[prospects]

Originally Posted by Tim

It is not absurd. $75 is full retail. That's my customer's price. But a fly by nighter who just wants a hot product is going to pay market price. I wouldn't care if it was $75 vs. $200 - whatever the market is.

ok well that is your way but I was quoted 80 a box from a shop owner yesterday that I have never met.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

It certainly could be. I believe in business ethics. If an LCS was weighing boxes, searching packs, or laundering money I'd absolutely question or even advertise those ethics to warn others.

Giving your top customers a good deal, however, is not part of that conversation IMO.

Ah ... my statement was not restrictive enough. Obviously those would be issues. I simply meant in the arena of pricing.

[ridgerider]

Originally Posted by prospects

because a $50 discount is absurd, that is why it makes no sense.

10-15 a box ok, but FIFTY? come on now.

Maybe it helps to look at it as the price is $125 across the board but the LCS owner gives a customer loyalty discount making the cost $75 for good customers. Either loyally support your local business, shop else where or pay $125/box.

[zacsoccer6]

My LCS which I used to work at usually gives me 10-15 dollars off, on stuff that's hot he will give a significant discount on 1-2 boxes but only the 10-15 dollars off on the rest. It's a reward for being a regular but allows him to maximize his profit.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by prospects

ok well that is your way but I was quoted 80 a box from a shop owner yesterday that I have never met.

Didn't you just post that you were in at $96 a box? Why not take the $80 you were quoted?

[prospects]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Didn't you just post that you were in at $96 a box? Why not take the $80 you were quoted?

Well before I knew of this great price, I went crazy and bought a box on blowout for 118 shipped.

if i average that into the other 80 dollar boxes plus tax, it is 96 a box

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by prospects

because a $50 discount is absurd, that is why it makes no sense.

10-15 a box ok, but FIFTY? come on now.

A tenured Math teacher can make upwards of 100K a year depending on the school district.

A newer teacher with the same degree and same license in the same district is going to start at 35K. Is that absurd too??

Welcome to the real world. When you put in time, effort, money, etc. you tend to get more in return. A loyal customer spending money for years at an LCS is going to be treated just like that math teacher who stayed loyal to one district for years. Yes, even hobbies can mirror reality.

[Darth Bryzzo]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

A tenured Math teacher can make upwards of 100K a year depending on the school district.

A newer teacher with the same degree and same license in the same district is going to start at 35K. Is that absurd too??

Welcome to the real world. When you put in time, effort, money, etc. you tend to get more in return. A loyal customer spending money for years at an LCS is going to be treated just like that math teacher who stayed loyal to one district for years. Yes, even hobbies can mirror reality.

Totally agree with you. Barney really messed up a lot of people.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

A tenured Math teacher can make upwards of 100K a year depending on the school district.

A newer teacher with the same degree and same license in the same district is going to start at 35K. Is that absurd too??

Welcome to the real world. When you put in time, effort, money, etc. you tend to get more in return. A loyal customer spending money for years at an LCS is going to be treated just like that math teacher who stayed loyal to one district for years. Yes, even hobbies can mirror reality.

No doubt...similar to the 80/20 rule....being in sales for 20 years, you take care of the customers that take care of you (my LCS' operate the same way)......reality. My discount is going to be greater for the person that buys 2 mil of product over the person that buys 50k.....and the world goes round and round

[PoPCulture]

Originally Posted by Darth Bryzzo

Totally agree with you. Barney really messed up a lot of people.

This will likely be the best statement I read today!

[morningrushnc]

"Oh, no, it wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty killed the Beast."

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Man...all my cases usually arrive the following Monday.

Maybe I should just buy up and pay the ridiculous shipping upgrade.

I just got my shipping notice from BO. If UPS does their part right my shipment arrives Wednesday. I did not pay for upgraded shipping

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by prospects

I am in for 3 boxes at 96 a piece. I am boss.

too rich for my blood, you win!

[smapdi]

This discussion is hilarious. In all kinds of businesses dealers do things differently for different people.
Record Snobs

Does this not ring completely true? I'm sorry but expecting complete equanimity from collectibles dealers, of all people, is going to lead to disappointment.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by tribefan26

I just got my shipping notice from BO. If UPS does their part right my shipment arrives Wednesday. I did not pay for upgraded shipping

I had to pay extra to have on live date Wednesday. I am only three days away for free shipping. Don't understand.