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Old 08-31-2018, 04:12 PM   #1
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I am thinking I might convert to mostly vintage cards. In doing so I was wondering what your goals are for this portion of the hobby?

Do you focus on quantity or quality more?

Are there things to stay away from?

Where do you study autographs to try to avoid buying a fake? Do you just buy graded exclusively?



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Old 08-31-2018, 05:24 PM   #2
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I am thinking I might convert to mostly vintage cards. In doing so I was wondering what your goals are for this portion of the hobby?
Do you focus on quantity or quality more?

Are there things to stay away from?

Where do you study autographs to try to avoid buying a fake? Do you just buy graded exclusively?
Not trying to hijack your thread, but I had one similar a while back.
Hopefully you can find a few answers there.
I'm on the road band will try and respond a bit more in depth later, or have a look over the other thread.

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Old 08-31-2018, 06:26 PM   #3
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I think when it comes to vintage, less is more - in that less availability, less sets to choose from, and so forth, makes you able to just appreciate aspects of the cards you couldn't otherwise do with modern stuff.

Personally, I collect graded only, or if its a tough to find card I will consider buying ungraded as well. The problem with buying ungraded though is that there are so many reprints out there that look exactly like the originals. Tough to tell sometimes. Graded cards at least give you SOME peace of mind.

Also, graded cards tend to sell easier if you ever need to unload something.

As for what cards I choose to collect - it really just comes down to whether or not I like the design, the set, the photo, etc.. I usually try to get cards with action photos rather than poses. Or, will target certain sets that I like (hockey: 1957, 1977, 1980, 1981 are favorites).

Anyway, that's my approach. Above all, have fun.
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:54 PM   #4
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I am thinking I might convert to mostly vintage cards. In doing so I was wondering what your goals are for this portion of the hobby?

Sticking mainly with prewar and Roberto Clemente

Do you focus on quantity or quality more?

Quality

Are there things to stay away from?

Commons and lesser stars, especially 1948-1980

Where do you study autographs to try to avoid buying a fake? Do you just buy graded exclusively?

Buy very few autographs and only graded. I research autographs because there are plenty of fakes slabbed

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Old 09-04-2018, 09:31 AM   #5
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My vintage goals:

I’m currently building a vintage collection for my son, my goal is to get the following cards for him

SGC or PSA graded:

1950 and 54 bowman yogi berra
1952 bowman mickey mantle
1949 leaf babe Ruth
1909 t206 christy Mathewson (white cap and black cap)
A nice ty Cobb
1948 Stan Musial
1985-86 fleer Jordan rc (any grade)
Joe Namath tall boy rc
Johnny Unitas vintage graded cards
Lou Brock and bob Gibson rcs
Some nice graded ticket stubs/checks

I would like to also get him a PSA/DNA certified mantle auto, and maybe complete a high grade 1964 Topps giants set


Then when that’s all done, I’ll just continue getting any nice graded mantle I can find a good deal on


After all this, I plan to start hoarding the following non vintage for him:


Peyton Manning autos and rcs
Tom Brady autos
Ray Lewis autos
Brett Favre autos
Aaron judge autos
Alex Rodriguez autos
Mike trout auto
And nice hard to find cards/low numbered cards of today’s top guys
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:45 AM   #6
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I collect these vintage sets:

1933, 34, 36 & 38 Goudey
1939-1941 Play Ball
1948-1955 Bowman
1952-55 Red Man
1951-1969 Topps

I tend to look for cards in VG condition. Means they are nice enough, but not super pricey. I buy the biggies graded and bust them out (just for the sake that I know they are real, then put them at home with the set in their binder!) in like a 1, 2, or 3.

I've completed 1968 Topps Game, 1959 Topps, 1956 Topps, and 1954 Topps so far!


Good luck collecting vintage if you decide to!
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Old 09-04-2018, 11:49 AM   #7
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two cards at the moment...

a nice presenting lower grade johnson portrait. evidence points to this being the next big pop.

a centered mid grade 56 mantle.

to answer the questions stick with key cards of HOF players and avoid commons. seek out cards that present as well as possible in the grades you can afford. avoid poor registration and off centered specimens.

vintage autos are tough i think you have to assume fake until proven real even when verified by a grading company. there are so many variables you have to take into consideration. truthfully its a part of the hobby best avoided in my opinion.
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Old 09-04-2018, 01:38 PM   #8
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To find a goal.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:36 PM   #9
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1959 Topps Allstar set. Graded PSA, SGC or BVG only. Trying to eventually get the set in 7s or higher, but for now just trying to get the set completed. I'm about halfway there
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:13 AM   #10
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I buy graded only. It's for the authentication, not so much the grade. If I buy ungraded then I have to shell out the money to authenticate the card.

I go for Cards and players in grades I can afford. I would rather have a Jackie Robinson bent through the middle than a joe no-name in psa 8 condition. I don't buy altered or cards with pieces missing/paper loss, but anything else is fair game. It's all about eye appeal.

I don't buy vintage autographs Or signed cards. Too hard to authenticate with all the con artists out there. That stuff just got too valuable for them to resist.

1956 Topps baseball is my main vintage focus.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:46 PM   #11
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49ers greats in PSA 9 or 10s. 8's if price gets out of hand. But really just the guys who really meant something to the organization. When you focus down it's not really that big of a list...

I like the graded slabs for the displayability (if that is a word).
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:14 PM   #12
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Im just currently in the process of switching to all vintage. I am focusing on key HOF players and iconic cards.
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:14 PM   #13
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1959 Topps Allstar set. Graded PSA, SGC or BVG only. Trying to eventually get the set in 7s or higher, but for now just trying to get the set completed. I'm about halfway there
That is a great set. I did this with the 1958 ones.

I'd recommend the PSA 8, only issue is the Billy Pierce
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:17 PM   #14
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Here is my purchase list right now:

1907 Ty Cobb Dietsche Rookie Postcard
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Bat on Shoulder
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Green Portrait
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait
1911 E90-1 Joe Jackson
1911 E90-1 Cy Young
1914 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson
1914 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb
1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144
1934 Goudey Premium Babe Ruth
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (psa 3)
1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle (psa 3)
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle (PSA 1)
1954 Topps Hank Aaron
1962 Topps Managers' Dream Mays/Mantle
1965 Topps Pete Rose
1971 Topps Nolan Ryan
1989 Upper Deck Griffey PSA 10
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:33 PM   #15
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Here is my purchase list right now:

1907 Ty Cobb Dietsche Rookie Postcard
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Bat on Shoulder
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Green Portrait
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait
1911 E90-1 Joe Jackson
1911 E90-1 Cy Young
1914 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson
1914 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb
1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144
1934 Goudey Premium Babe Ruth
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (psa 3)
1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle (psa 3)
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle (PSA 1)
1954 Topps Hank Aaron
1962 Topps Managers' Dream Mays/Mantle
1965 Topps Pete Rose
1971 Topps Nolan Ryan
1989 Upper Deck Griffey PSA 10
Post some pictures when you pick them up.
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Old 09-06-2018, 06:07 AM   #16
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That is a great set. I did this with the 1958 ones.

I'd recommend the PSA 8, only issue is the Billy Pierce
Yep, he's expensive. I managed to get a lower grade very cheap.
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Here is my purchase list right now:

1907 Ty Cobb Dietsche Rookie Postcard
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Bat on Shoulder
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Green Portrait
1911 T206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait
1911 E90-1 Joe Jackson
1911 E90-1 Cy Young
1914 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson
1914 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb
1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144
1934 Goudey Premium Babe Ruth
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (psa 3)
1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle (psa 3)
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle (PSA 1)
1954 Topps Hank Aaron
1962 Topps Managers' Dream Mays/Mantle
1965 Topps Pete Rose
1971 Topps Nolan Ryan
1989 Upper Deck Griffey PSA 10
net54 has probably the best looking low grade cobb CJ out there and an incredible jackson CJ in the prewar sale section. check them out good luck!
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:21 AM   #18
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i concur what say above ^^^^
I have/had several of these cards before and contemplating to downsizing and focus on a upgrade and maybe some vintage.
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:24 PM   #19
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Why does everyone say stay away from Commons, lower tier stars? I like to build sets but don't want to do so if it's not going to be profitable down the road. So do I need to get rid of all my commons and starter sets and focus on stars only? I don't do anything graded so everything would be raw. Just curious.
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Why does everyone say stay away from Commons, lower tier stars? I like to build sets but don't want to do so if it's not going to be profitable down the road. So do I need to get rid of all my commons and starter sets and focus on stars only? I don't do anything graded so everything would be raw. Just curious.
Set collecting doesn't seem to be as popular right now, less is more I guess. Personally I'm a set collector with one eye on value and the other eye on the story behind the cards. I do think its a great time to buy vintage commons and sets as the prices are down.
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:48 PM   #21
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Set collecting doesn't seem to be as popular right now, less is more I guess. Personally I'm a set collector with one eye on value and the other eye on the story behind the cards. I do think its a great time to buy vintage commons and sets as the prices are down.
I know from talking with others and from my own situation that people are generally keeping less and trying to have less clutter/fat. I used to have binder upon binder and boxes everywhere. My collection now fits in a drawer (albeit a large one). I still collect a few sets - but they tend to be smaller and not take up much space.

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I like to build sets but don't want to do so if it's not going to be profitable down the road.
If you like it you should do it. But you don't need to look down the road to see if it's profitable. Generally if you sell you do better splitting sets up and selling that way.
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Old 09-30-2018, 10:35 PM   #22
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Why does everyone say stay away from Commons, lower tier stars? I like to build sets but don't want to do so if it's not going to be profitable down the road. So do I need to get rid of all my commons and starter sets and focus on stars only? I don't do anything graded so everything would be raw. Just curious.
Most collectors want the good stuff and have little room for filler. I am planning on completing the 1956 topps set, bit that's it. I wil pick up stars and rookies only for every other year.
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I am half way done with a T205 master set SGC 60 or greater
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