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11-04-2017, 11:12 AM | #101 | |
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11-04-2017, 11:05 PM | #102 | |
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11-04-2017, 11:45 PM | #103 | |
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11-05-2017, 12:16 AM | #104 |
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11-05-2017, 12:18 AM | #105 |
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It was absurd, and it completely changed the result of the finals.
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11-05-2017, 12:42 AM | #106 |
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The way green played was absurd. You can't say it completely changed the finals and not acknowledge things would have been different in the first matchup. The warriors had 2 chances to beat the Cavs with green on the floor after the suspension and couldn't win.
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11-05-2017, 01:03 AM | #107 |
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It’s true the suspension did open the door for momentum to swing
But also true that the Cavs had Green for 6 and 7 and he played lights out in game 7 and they couldn’t win 1 game at home Looking back on it, it’s mind boggling that that team without Durant won 73 games. That’s crazy. |
11-05-2017, 01:06 AM | #108 | |
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I want LBJ from the other night .. that guy can beat GS if he has help |
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11-05-2017, 01:08 AM | #109 | |
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I understand when somebody roots for MJ, Kobe, LeBron, Curry, etc. But I don't understand when somebody is so insecure about his love for a certain player (MJ in your case) that you feel the need to put down and hate on anyone that is mentioned in the same sentence (like LeBron) as your favorite player (MJ). What you need to understand is that LeBron couldn't guard KD and KD or any other GSW could not guard LeBron in the finals. That's why LeBron averaged 33.6 PPG, 12 RPG, 10 APG on 56% FG%, 39% 3P% in the freaking finals. Against one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. What in the world should LeBron have done? Average 58 PPG, 17 RPG, 15 APG on 72% FG%, 48% 3P%? When Westbrook averages a triple double in the regular season on 42% FG% and gets 2-3 free throw rebounds a game b/c Adams and Kanter box out and let Westbrook get free rebounds, he doesn't get any criticism and everyone's in awe. If LeBron averaged a triple double by getting 2-3 free throw rebounds a game, everyone would be all over him and criticizing him for being selfish or something. When LeBron averages 33.6, 12, 10 on 56% FG% in the finals against one of the best defensive teams in NBA history, it's LeBron's fault that cavs lost. Forget that Westbrook couldn't even get past the first round. When LeBron drops 57, 11, 7, nobody posts about it. Not a single thread. Zero. But when Porzingis drops 37, you better believe there's already a thread on here about it. Or when Giannis drops 44. If you watched the finals, it was actually one shot away from going to Game 6, with a very good chance to go to game 7. Korver misses a corner 3, KD hits a ridiculous transition three, Kyrie misses game winner, all in Game 3. All in about a minute or so. If at least one of them doesn't happen, it's game 6, where cavs would have won both games. It was ultimately 5 games and GSW won blowouts, but GSW also won blowouts in 2016 and still lost in 7. When the second best player in the world joins the best regular season team in NBA history and you blame LeBron for not being able to beat that team, idk what to say. So before you make EVERYTHING about your hate for LeBron, and turn every single discussion about the cavs, warriors, LeBron, etc. about your hate for LeBron and your love for MJ, realize that it's really getting old and your biased unilateral hate for LeBron isn't swaying anyone. And, rhigh2390, if you find that I don't reply to your follow-up comment in this thread, it's because I'm not going to read it, b/c you started yet another "LeBron hate" tangent discussion on yet another unrelated thread. I'm tired of reading posts about MJ and LeBron on completely unrelated threads b/c you and some people bring up LeBron and MJ for some reason, unprovoked. Last edited by johnyensmith123; 11-05-2017 at 01:17 AM. |
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11-05-2017, 01:09 AM | #110 |
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That LBJ would be nice to see in the Finals but just last year they had the lead in game 4 and fell apart down the stretch or it would’ve been 2-2. We don’t always get that Lebron in big moments. Sometimes yes but also other versions.
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11-05-2017, 01:15 AM | #111 | |
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You're right that LeBron hasn't consistently showed up in big games. Dallas. Boston before he left CLE, although that one was probably b/c of the Delonte West thing. But you have a point. Although I don't know if a team blowing a lead in game 4 is all LeBron's fault. And by that logic, I would be more punishing toward Curry/Thompson/Green or Durant/Westbrook for blowing 3-1 series leads than blowing a lead in a single game. |
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11-05-2017, 01:18 AM | #112 |
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True that game 4 was make or break BUT I don't bet against Lebron when he's up against it. I just don't think he has the pieces . If IT3 comes back then maybe but it's gonna be tough
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11-05-2017, 01:24 AM | #113 |
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Simple answer, by playing better defense. But given the roster they have, I don't really think that's all that probable.
Even when they get IT4 back, he's still going to be a defensive liability in the playoffs because of his height. |
11-05-2017, 01:24 AM | #114 | |
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And you’re the guy that goes on and on and on and yells at everyone and says he is leaving but always returns to yell some more. Glad we know each other. You call us haters and that’s fine, you love him and think he does no wrong enough for everybody. The fact is in game 4 they did have the lead, KD did dominate down the stretch, he did stand and watch KD walk up to the 3 point line and take an in rhythm 3, then get stripped on the other end and pass to Kyrie on another possession and watch him dribble dance the clock out. I guess that is all someone else’s fault But hey he put up great stats I wasn’t even going to respond to your nonsense but fluffing your boyfriend’s stats by calling the Warriors one of the best defensive teams of all time when the end of game 5 looked like the all-star game out there and it ending up 129-122 or whatever it was is so ludicrous I don’t even know what to say. I’ll give him that, he does look great in the box score though |
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11-05-2017, 01:25 AM | #115 |
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If you don’t think the pieces he’s had before are enough then why in the world would IT be the answer?
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11-05-2017, 01:28 AM | #116 |
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I think you're mistaking game 4 withe game 3. If you're going to criticize him, at least get your facts straight please. Warriors are not one of the best defensive team in the NBA?? https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/...r%20Season https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/...gular%20Season What stat are you looking at? Because GSW was #2 in defensive rating last year and #4 in 15-16. The reason so many points were scored was because of PACE and 3 POINT SHOOTING, not b/c GSW is a bad defensive team. More possessions and more points per possessions equal more points in a game. It's why teams score way more points now than 20 years ago in general. And then you take into account how fast GSW plays and how much 3 point shooting they have, it makes sense now doesn't it? "he does look great in the box score though" What doesn't he look great in? He has 4 MVPs, three championships, 3 finals mvps, etc. Quote:
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11-05-2017, 01:51 AM | #120 |
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Let me add one more thing. In fact, not only do I never hate on MJ, Kobe, etc., I don't even hate on Curry, because there's really not much reason to. Sure he gets mouthy sometimes, but not as bad as Draymond Green. I don't like KD, but that's mostly because I don't like the fact that he joined a 73-win team in the manner that he did. If he left OKC for Boston or Washington, no problem. But to join the team you lost to less than a month ago in the conference finals, where there was so much animosity between the two teams, after blowing a 3-1 series lead, after shooting 11-31 in game 6, and after not really showing up in the last three games. That was not a respectable move in my opinion.
And before anyone compares KD's move with LeBron's move to MIA, let me put it this way: KD's move is if LeBron joined Boston that year. KD's move is if Larry Bird joined Magic after losing in the finals to the Lakers. KD's move is more like Ray Allen's move to MIA. LeBron and Bosh joining Wade is more like Ray Allen and KG joining Paul Pierce. |
11-05-2017, 07:12 AM | #121 |
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Well I’m glad to see you’re not opening up the thread again
You’re right I did mean game 3. That makes all the difference in the world. My point was they choked away a chance at a 2-2 even series. But you’re right I said game 4 instead of game 3 so then my point is down the drain because I just made it up. You can find your articles and come up with any stat you want to support your Lebron narrative. I’m noticing that too. The one I’m referring to is the fact that they gave up 120+ points in an nba Finals game. You’ll praise Lebron probably for scoring 40 in game 5 and say he did all he could but go watch the 4th qtr of that game when he scored a lot and see what kind of defense is being played. If that looks like one of the best defensive teams of all time to you, you haven’t watched much basketball. It was the Finals but looked like a pickup game. You’ll probably think it’s great for Lebron to be the all time leading scorer in the all star game. They play great defense there too. What did they put up? 400 last year. Your context game is nowhere to be found. But write me another wall of text. I’m sure it’ll be original. |
11-05-2017, 07:23 AM | #122 |
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And btw, I don’t think Lebron’s move is as bad as Durant’s move. Durant lost my respect forever. The NBA was set back a few years by his move.
The salary increase should’ve been prorated to existing salaries and not just allowed for extra dumps of cash to be used to sign another player. Also with Steph’s low bargain contract they could do that. So not only was it unique to the salary cap situation influx of cash and also with Steph’s superstar cheap deal but it also made it to where nobody else could do the same thing after them. And so in that way, I hate it. But I also recognize he had played 9 years with Russ and wanted to be somewhere he could catch and shoot and be part of an offense instead of watching one guy dribble all day. But what you all refuse to acknowledge is that Lebron did start this with the decision in 2010. Lebron and Wade started taking those 2 year deals with opt outs so they could be in control and leverage management and leave if they needed to. They tried to get Melo to do that too but he didn’t. Is that smart of them? Probably so but that had never been done before and it laid the blueprint for what is happening now in Golden State. The off-season drama is more important to hype everything with player movement than the actual games. That’s where we are at and the game has suffered. So no you won’t hear me saying Lebron’s move was as bad but he did start the “I’m taking my talents to x and loading one up” mindset. And for you to compare that to Allen and KG being traded for a top 5 pick and Al Jefferson who was a young big man doing like 17-11 or something is laughable. One was in control and colluded One was a trade |
11-05-2017, 07:35 AM | #123 |
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What doesn't he look great in? He has 4 MVPs, three championships, 3 finals mvps, etc.
My answer to that question specifically.... 18-27 w-l in the Finals More specifically..... When he is exposed by passing teams. When he stares at the ball and gambles trying to cheat in a passing lane and his man slips back door for an easy dunk. When he drives the lane hard with nowhere to go and no plan then jumps and fires a bad pass throwing his team’s floor balance off and then it’s a turnover and off to the races while he stands at the other end and jaws to the ref. How he has refused to be coached and hasn’t developed his game beyond power and athletic ability when he should be adding something new every off season. If you want me to keep going I will. You put me with other MJ guys and say you guys. Well you guys started the Kyrie thread about getting what he wanted and it took them all of 2 games to figure that one out before winning 7 straight. See he wants to be coached and not just exist in Lebron’s bubble. A player that young figured that one out. He saw the writing on the wall. |
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I don't really care if I'm labeled a hater by lebron fans. I just state the facts. Again, please don't respond 😊
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