RTOD Print Runs

[scottagibson]

Brew Crew autographs may be at a premium. Numbers much higher than I thought they'd be.

[Malsk]

The print runs are bigger then I thought. It will be tough to make any money on these if you bought for resale.

Like someone else said people had $$$ in their eyes.

[SB34C]

WOW, only 1854 Ohtani's. This is the card to have I guess. I laid off cause I thought for sure there would be 10,000 of them.

[Platman]

I will be correcting my grid in a moment... Auto Set PRs ARE listed on the base set of each team. Click on each team and it's in red near the top of the description.
THANKS JEEVES!

[gamboooler]

Damn I knew I should've ordered some Giants auto sets. Only 75 sold with Posey and Longoria in his new digs. $180 for 3 sets, and in theory, a Posey and Longo auto with 25 made of each.

[SoftMuscle]

Originally Posted by SB34C

WOW, only 1854 Ohtani's. This is the card to have I guess. I laid off cause I thought for sure there would be 10,000 of them.

The price of the auto sets definitely put off people I guess. Only 454 autos sold. Yankees sold more than double that

[scottagibson]

Originally Posted by SoftMuscle

The price of the auto sets definitely put off people I guess. Only 454 autos sold. Yankees sold more than double that

In my opinion, the autograph price for the Angels was absurd. If it would've been $400 per set and you had to buy three to be guaranteed an Ohtani and a Trout, the other card better have been Albert Pujols. But you had to buy four and the other two names were much less desirable. I am sure people with deeper pockets will enjoy the ones they got, I just couldn't take that risk.

[HadWayTooMuch]

It's funny, but no surprising, that people all thought because of last years PR this years PR would be low again. Don't people realize they are not the only ones thinking that way?

I went bigger this year than last year, but I bought 1 each of many sets, and a few extras of key teams. But when you buy 5 or 10 Rays or Rangers, what did you expect? Nobody else to buy them except for you?

How in heaven's name did the Marlins sell 109 sets? That's hilarious. Talk about a garbage set!

I hope some lessons were learned here today! LOL

Bottom line, buy what you want, not what you hope nobody else buys!

[HadWayTooMuch]

Sidenote, I think the 2017 RTOD sets should see some value increase now that production of this years was so much higher. I have to think baseball PRs will not see the low 30s again...

[tribefan26]

Update


Base and auto separated - thank you platman (and go tribe!)
AL EAST
Orioles - 160
Red Sox - 134 Base, 318 Auto - 452
Yankees - 677 Base, 996 Auto - 1,663
Rays - 96
Blue Jays - 148

AL CENT
White Sox - 175
Indians - 122 Base, 172 Auto - 295
Tigers - 119
Royals - 125
Twins - 129 Base, 96 Auto - 225

AL WEST
Angels - 1,400 Base, 454 Auto - 1,854
Astros - 152 Base, 333 Auto - 485
Athletics - 117
Mariners - 162
Rangers - 94


NL EAST
Braves - 98 Base, 179 Auto - 277
Marlins - 109
Mets - 142 Base, 217 Auto - 359
Phillies - 214 Base, 197 Auto - 411
Nationals - 255

NL CENT
Cubs - 262 Base, 625 Auto - 887
Reds - 169
Brewers - 78 Base, 61 Auto - 139
Pirates - 135
Cardinals -78 Base, 217 Auto - 295

NL WEST
Diamondbacks - 122
Rockies - 148
Dodgers - 127 Base, 391 Auto - 528
Padres - 161
Giants - 156 Base, 75 Auto - 231

[scottagibson]

I personally think there is tons of money to be made even at current elevated print runs. Those are not huge numbers by any means especially when you consider that most cards in bulk are being bought for three dollars per or less. I am happy with the numbers across the board.

[Platman]

Clarifying if the figure in red is in addition to the main number or if separate... Cardinals as example: 217 Auto Sets, 295 Base Sets, so we want to know if 217 out of 295 sold were Auto Sets, OR if 217 Auto Sets were sold in addition to 295 Base Sets which would mean 512 base cards exist for the Cardinals.

[Bcwcardz]

How does Topps send out the more expensive cards? Fed Ex?


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[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by Platman

Clarifying if the figure in red is in addition to the main number or if separate... Cardinals as example: 217 Auto Sets, 295 Base Sets, so we want to know if 217 out of 295 sold were Auto Sets, OR if 217 Auto Sets were sold in addition to 295 Base Sets which would mean 512 base cards exist for the Cardinals.

I think if they meant to be separate they would not have put the number of auto sets on the non-auto set page with the bold number. But it is Topps, so who knows what they did - until they tell us.

[yrocks2001]

There are some very low print runs on the auto sets these could be very sought after.

[Platman]

Originally Posted by Platman

Clarifying if the figure in red is in addition to the main number or if separate... Cardinals as example: 217 Auto Sets, 295 Base Sets, so we want to know if 217 out of 295 sold were Auto Sets, OR if 217 Auto Sets were sold in addition to 295 Base Sets which would mean 512 base cards exist for the Cardinals.

Jeeves just confirmed the print run of the auto sets listed in red is included in the total of the print runs for each team. So with Cardinals as example, 217 of the 295 were sold as auto sets, so only 78 sets of Cardinals were sold as non-auto sets. Yeah, we have some limited cards folks.

[monkeymcgee]

Picking up that extra Angels set may not have been that dumb after all

[kpete42]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Picking up that extra Angels set may not have been that dumb after all

Not at all. I’m pumped I went big on the Angels sets even though I thought the PR would be over 2000. Ohtani has his new SP Now card!

[rutgersjpm]

Anyone know how long it took Topps to start shipping base sets last year?

[Monty]

Originally Posted by rutgersjpm

Anyone know how long it took Topps to start shipping base sets last year?

late May?

[gguffey]

Originally Posted by Monty

late May?

Was it really late May when these sets shipped last year? One thing I noticed is that on the regular sets it said "Ships in 3-5 Days after Countdown Clock" for the entire duration of the sell period and then it seems that has been removed once the sets moved to Sold Out. Is this common?

Here is part of the cached version of the Yankees set with 3 days still remaining to purchase -

SPECS:
Includes 16 2.5x3.5 trading cards
FREE SHIPPING (Choose Smartpost)
Ships in 3-5 Business Days after Countdown Clock

[kpete42]

Yeah I think the non auto versions would ship fairly soon. I have a feeling that the autos will be shipped very quickly as well after the fiasco of people cancelling orders for the postseason sets. Thinking they may have procured most of the autos during spring training. (Maybe wishful thinking on my part though)

[spw2214]

Originally Posted by gguffey

Was it really late May when these sets shipped last year? One thing I noticed is that on the regular sets it said "Ships in 3-5 Days after Countdown Clock" for the entire duration of the sell period and then it seems that has been removed once the sets moved to Sold Out. Is this common?

Here is part of the cached version of the Yankees set with 3 days still remaining to purchase -

SPECS:
Includes 16 2.5x3.5 trading cards
FREE SHIPPING (Choose Smartpost)
Ships in 3-5 Business Days after Countdown Clock

Last year my non-autographed sets shipped on April 27. I think the last sales day was April 6, so they shipped in three weeks. However I would definitely say that past performance does not guarantee future results when it comes to shipping.

[wilsonj12]

Originally Posted by Platman

Jeeves just confirmed the print run of the auto sets listed in red is included in the total of the print runs for each team. So with Cardinals as example, 217 of the 295 were sold as auto sets, so only 78 sets of Cardinals were sold as non-auto sets. Yeah, we have some limited cards folks.

Can you ask Jeeves how they are planning to approach the numbering challenge? Given they promised all autos numbered at /99, /49, /25, /10, /5, /1. In cases where they didn't sell out (ie in every case except Yankees it seems), are they still providing signatures at the numbered tiers and producing the entirety of the tier?

I've did a strawman and they can actually deliver this way by getting creative, though I didn't consider the constraint of needing to provide one of each for people who bought X sets.

I assume they'll never disclose exact approach, but I'd love to understand how they plan to approach this situation. My trust is a little low after lack of transparency on the 2016 Cubs WS Champions auto sets (Rizzos being very rare), though they had the option for unnumbered there ... they don't have that here and they have the "one of each if you purchase x" promise).

Cubs: 625 auto sets, 5 signers (easy, uniform)
* Rizzo: /99, /25, /1
* Bryant: /99, /25, /1
* Happ: /99, /25, /1
* Baez: /99, /25, /1
* Contreras: /99, /25, /1

Astros: 333 auto sets, 4 signers
* Davis: /49, /25, /10, /1
* Altuve: /49, /25, /10, /1
* Springer: /49, /25, /10
* Bregman: /49, /25, /5

Indians: 173 auto sets, 2 signers
* Kluber: /49, /25, /10, /5
* Lindor: /49, /25, /10

Braves: 179 auto sets, 4 signers
* Albies: /49, /25, /10, /5
* Minter: /25, /10, /5
* Fried: /25
* Freeman: /25

Angels: 454 auto sets, 4 signers, assume at least half need to be Ohtani / Trout
* Ohtani: /99, /49, /10, /5
* Scribner: /49, /10, /5
* Trout: /99, /49, /10, /5
* Upton: /49, /10, /5

Brewers: 61 auto sets, 3 signers
* Broxton: /25, /5, /1
* Shaw: /10, /5
* Thames: /10, /5

Twins: 96 auto sets, 4 signers
* Granite: /25,
* Jorge: /25,
* Dozier: /25, /10
* Buxton: /10, /1

Mets: 217 auto sets, 4 signers
* Roasario: /49, /5, /1
* Gonzalez: /49, /5, /1
* Bruce: /49, /5, /1
* Cespedes: /49, /5, /1

Yankees: Sold out, no issues

Phillies: 197 auto sets (194 likely to JoeJoe ), 4 signers
* Crawford: /49, /10
* Santana: /49, /10
* Williams: /49, /5
* Hoskins: /25

Giants: 75 auto sets, 3 signers
* Gomez: /25
* Longoria: /25
* Posey: /25

Cardinals: 217 auto sets, 3 signers
* Flaherty: /49, /25, /5
* DeJong: /49, /25, /5
* Molina: /49, /10

[joejoemay]

Originally Posted by Malsk

The print runs are bigger then I thought. It will be tough to make any money on these if you bought for resale.

Like someone else said people had $$$ in their eyes.

Well you can sell them all at $3 each and make money, so it was most likely a good buy. Not 2017 RTOD and IF you hold, those PRs are still crazy low compared to most regular issued cards.