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Old 07-04-2016, 09:12 AM   #26
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Not seeing how any of this applies -- unless you're paying to get speeding tickets issued to you.

LOL, the profit comes from the many imperfections in the system here, not from any perceived greatness.

If anyone's paying money, the service should be as perfect as possible otherwise it's corrupt!

well you pay to drive, so it's pretty much the same thing. You pay for your liscense and property tax on the car etc etc to the same people who give you a ticket.

your thinking small instead of big...... if everything was perfect then every card would be printed perfect as well.... and encased from the factory maybe? it doesn't just stop at grading, then maybe grading fails to exist because nobody would need it, all cards would be perfect.. there is always a step higher once things go perfect, it doesn't just stop at one level of perfection. the system operates off the factor of human imperfection, that's what grading is all about, the strive to get perfection from flawed imperfection. if the whole system was 100% perfect people would lose interest. you should be happy it's flawed otherwise it wouldn't exist.
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:30 PM   #27
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While in theory computer grading sounds like a great idea, in reality I think it would produce accurate results in only some areas, like centering (assuming you can program in what perfect centering should be on cards that don't have a border). However, a big issue is scanning in cards, since that is how computers would "look" at your cards. If you've scanned in any number of cards to list them for sale, then you know that sometimes the scans make the card look better and sometimes worse than what they actually look like. You can even scan the same card multiple times (moving it around slightly between scans), and if there is some kind of damage, the scans will sometimes pick it up differently. So in reality, the computer might not assign the same grades to the same cards if graded multiple times (especially on a 100 point scale, I would not be surprised if grades would vary by 3-5 points). And what happens if the computer thinks dust is a surface imperfection, or an eyelash is a scratch?
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Old 07-04-2016, 05:09 PM   #28
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well you pay to drive, so it's pretty much the same thing. You pay for your liscense and property tax on the car etc etc to the same people who give you a ticket.

your thinking small instead of big...... if everything was perfect then every card would be printed perfect as well.... and encased from the factory maybe? it doesn't just stop at grading, then maybe grading fails to exist because nobody would need it, all cards would be perfect.. there is always a step higher once things go perfect, it doesn't just stop at one level of perfection. the system operates off the factor of human imperfection, that's what grading is all about, the strive to get perfection from flawed imperfection. if the whole system was 100% perfect people would lose interest. you should be happy it's flawed otherwise it wouldn't exist.
The bolded part is the definition of non sequitur.

With regard to the gist of your second paragraph about grading not needing to exist, I already said as much a number of times. There isn't much of a point to grade modern cards anyway, it mostly exists as a mechanism for people to try to generate profit -- profit off of its subjectivity. Frankly the hobby's better without it.

If people really wanted perfect cards, manufacturers would make them... and charge extra for them!
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