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Old 10-10-2017, 02:55 PM   #51
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The players would still get paid. Only the league can suspend without pay.

Jones can sit or "suspend" players all he wants, he still has to pay them.
When the young guys like Zeke and Dak are on their rookie contracts, you would think they are looking for their next payday. So again, money is important to them.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:35 PM   #52
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When the young guys like Zeke and Dak are on their rookie contracts, you would think they are looking for their next payday. So again, money is important to them.
If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:43 PM   #53
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If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.
I say test the man then. See what happens Zeke after JJ stood by your side for your issues
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:45 PM   #54
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America: stand for the anthem, grab a boob afterwards.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:46 PM   #55
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America: stand for the anthem, grab a boob afterwards.
And then get on the MN party boat!
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:48 PM   #56
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And then get on the MN party boat!
And tell Access Hollywood about it the next day.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:50 PM   #57
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And tell Access Hollywood about it the next day.
Maybe do some lines off the desk and send video to a prostitute too
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:12 PM   #58
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Maybe do some lines off the desk and send video to a prostitute too
But he loved her. Or parts of her.
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:52 PM   #59
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I'm not sure why they don't just film the fellas kneeling from the waist up only, like they way they did Elvis for 1950's television. That way, the players who want to can kneel and those who don't like that won't know they aren't standing.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:46 AM   #60
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Correct. "Should" does not mean "Must" stand.

The only "Must" is that the anthem must be played before the game.

I like that Jerry is taking a stand. I hate that this is such a distraction. But for everyone saying that it a "rule" to stand, it isn't.

With that said here is a rule:

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 (d) of the NFL rulebook, which states that “players are prohibited from engaging in any celebrations or demonstrations while on the ground”

This is the same NFL that fined Cameron Heyward for wearing eye black honoring his father, former NFL fullback Craig "Ironhead" Heyward after he died from Cancer.

Its the same the league that fined cornerback William Gay for wearing purple cleats to show support for domestic violence awareness.

The League now says its OK to demonstrate in this manner, during the anthem, but not OK to show support for cancer or domestic violence due to "Uniform" rules?


Crazy stuff!
If I understand it correctly, there are two sets of rules - one for in-game and one for non-game/game-day conduct. It seems to me that the NFL has been more concerned with what happens in-game, as that is what most people tune in for, so the rules are more strict.

A player could wear purple cleats to show support for whatever cause anytime before the game and be fine so long as he's not wearing them in game.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the rules for non-game/game-day conduct aren't more strict given the non-stop coverage of the NFL during the season. There must be a reason but I don't know what it is.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:23 PM   #61
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Talking about rules in general. If there are no rules, whether it's in football, a business, or at home, chaos can ensue. Imagine if you let your kids do what they want from day one? Rules are needed. I agree, no chaos with the players kneeling, but rules are rules. Enforcing them is paramount to any successful home or business.
People do, itís called millennials, cupcake generation.
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People do, itís called millennials, cupcake generation.
There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.
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There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.
True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.
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There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.
It's okay, the old gentleman seems to be confusing a delicious dessert food with college degrees.
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True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.
Glad we can agree on that
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True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.
The get off my lawn generation, you seem to fall into it.
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Someone in this thread has never gone 56 in a 55 zone. Or is that one of those rules we just ignore?
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Someone in this thread has never gone 56 in a 55 zone. Or is that one of those rules we just ignore?
If you go 56 in a 55 Iím bump drafting you
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Goodell now says that they need to "move past" the anthem controversey. LOLOL.
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If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.
hence, Colin K was not a great player
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hence, Colin K was not a great player
Bicep kissing Kaepernick was good.

Frailer, vegan, hateful, p-whipped idiot Kaepernick.. not so much.
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