First Buzz: 2018 Topps Star Wars Stellar Signatures trading cards

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

Now $1500 is about the price range of where you'd find his sith auto the last time it was auctioned.

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I don't know where you got the number $1500 on Jackson's sith auto.

I'm not saying that's what they should sell for, I'm just dubious that you can extrapolate that because one or two went over $1,000 (keeping in mind that they were a low volume time frame) that a hundred of them should also go above $1k each.

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

*Also, I re-read your post. I'm confused, I'm not saying what the price should be, I'm just saying what I see on ebay. I'm saying there are 3 BINs @ $1500 and the onslaught of incoming jacksons hasn't hit ebay yet to further drive down the prices.

I merely asked how you got $1500 out of a an auction that ended at $1200. That's all. I'm not getting touchy, just wondering if I missed an auction. I don't think these will sell at $1500. I don't think they will sell above $1000. That's all I wanted to say.

I would very much like to see a link to the auction where a sith Jackson auto went for $1500.

[xtwinstarx]

Bro, what does about mean to you? Isn't 1200 about 1500 when I state right away that the first price on ebay was $3500? that's picky man. I don't track every ebay auction ending from 2017. I would say that pulling it out of my ass from a year ago that it went for about $1500 is a pretty relative number.

I - like you - think i could probably pick one of these up eventually under $500, which makes me super happy because it's the last big name I don't own. (because of Stellar 1) If we're talking about topps signers that it. I am basically working on a card from every signer since pure sets become impossible because the Fords (at least used to be) in short supply and expensive. And as I said before the sith card has come up once in 3 years, so I know if it was still an issue that it would be closer to $2k. But now I don't have to worry about it.

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I merely asked how you got $1500 out of a an auction that ended at $1200. That's all. I'm not getting touchy, just wondering if I missed an auction. I don't think these will sell at $1500. I don't think they will sell above $1000. That's all I wanted to say.

I would very much like to see a link to the auction where a sith Jackson auto went for $1500.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

Bro, what does about mean to you? Isn't 1200 about 1500

I guess I'm being pedantic when you add 25% onto something or $300 when dialing in a price. I am incredibly sorry for offending you with how poor I am.

[Carrbeaz]

This reminds me when my wife asks me what time it is and I say 4:26 and she goes.. so it's 5 o'clock.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Carrbeaz

This reminds me when my wife asks me what time it is and I say 4:26 and she goes.. so it's 5 o'clock.

I think it'd be closer to you selling someone a card that you say is "about $1500 at auction on ebay". Then that buyer getting upset when simply searching most of the sales and seeing most historically at $900 and seeing one at $1200 and one at $1260 -- when there were way fewer autographs on the market. And two went for $600 each. And then you tell them that because some people listed it at $3500 BIN that the $1500 is a fair price ... me, I'd feel like I got fleeced but I guess that's just me.

[xtwinstarx]

You have offended me with how poor you are. I hope you are sorry sir.

[Vargaman]

I wonder if they tried to get Lucas to sign or not.

This seems like a steal...




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[Kyle Babbitt]

Originally Posted by Vargaman

I wonder if they tried to get Lucas to sign or not.

This seems like a steal...




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I have watched a few sellers slowly listong over a dozen sets of Lucas and Ford from Indiana Jones Heritage over the last two years. It seems to be an endless supply.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Vargaman

I wonder if they tried to get Lucas to sign or not.

This seems like a steal...




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Damn that is an amazing set. Is it weird that I identify Ford more with Indy than Han? If they had a Spielberg auto to go with these two, that would be a holy trinity of cards.

[Vargaman]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Damn that is an amazing set. Is it weird that I identify Ford more with Indy than Han? If they had a Spielberg auto to go with these two, that would be a holy trinity of cards.

I guess because indy was the lead versus a supporting character?

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[Vargaman]

Think the price is a bit high...lol




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[Sharard]

Ya about 1400 to 1500 to high heh, probably being generous

[xtwinstarx]

Jackson now @ $1299 on ebay. I'll let eldavo give the call on what kind of range that is in though.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

Jackson now @ $1299 on ebay. I'll let eldavo give the call on what kind of range that is in though.

That's about where everyone should be buying them at Look at them fly off the shelves lol

[xtwinstarx]

Only a handful too, the breaks must not be going well. Such a strange phenomenon, stuck holding cards any collector would want to buy.

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

That's about where everyone should be buying them at Look at them fly off the shelves lol

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

Only a handful too, the breaks must not be going well. Such a strange phenomenon, stuck holding cards any collector would want to buy.

Yeah I mean, you are free to obviously disagree with me but I think the first Jacksons will sell at around $700 and they'll settle in at $400 once this release runs its course. I fully expect the MW jacksons to still go for well over a thousand maybe two -- those are rare enough and beautiful cards in my opinion.

Of course it's meaningless for me to say this when I don't have the cash to back up my words but if you want to talk price I think the word is out that Topps is just going to ruin this signature with countless releases just like every other once hot signature.

[xtwinstarx]

bro, i'm on your team with price. I think he would have stayed expensive - like MW - if they didn't blow it out on stellar. Stellar is obviously the collector value destroyer. Look at Ford or Hayden even McDiarmid. Those used to be way bigger numbers. Now deflated.

I don't know about how low Jackson will get, but when he signed these and MW at that huge signing, these are the only sets we saw, so I don't think he may show up again that soon. Seems like they piggybacked on someone elses signing. But I hope these 100 sigs help to lower the price of the MW, cause yea they look way better.

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Yeah I mean, you are free to obviously disagree with me but I think the first Jacksons will sell at around $700 and they'll settle in at $400 once this release runs its course. I fully expect the MW jacksons to still go for well over a thousand maybe two -- those are rare enough and beautiful cards in my opinion.

Of course it's meaningless for me to say this when I don't have the cash to back up my words but if you want to talk price I think the word is out that Topps is just going to ruin this signature with countless releases just like every other once hot signature.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

I don't know about how low Jackson will get, but when he signed these and MW at that huge signing, these are the only sets we saw, so I don't think he may show up again that soon.

I do not trust topps to be transparent on this one. I think they had a roll or book of stickers that he signed that they would definitely not release pics of ...

[xtwinstarx]

The pics were SLJs on his social media.

But who knows. I guess for now, any SLJ auto is on card. Maybe the only multi set signer that can say that!

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I do not trust topps to be transparent on this one. I think they had a roll or book of stickers that he signed that they would definitely not release pics of ...

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

The pics were SLJs on his social media.

You know, I don't have the funds to do it but I think the only way to stop Topps from make stickers of everyone ever is to do like the custom card makers and remove those stickers and reapply them to offensive things like fascist propaganda, pornography, hygiene products and things of that nature.

"This used kleenex was signed by Cottrell as the TOPPS authentic sticker shows!"

If Topps doesn't care, I'd hope the actors and actresses would ...

[ForceChange77]

Jackson signed stickers along with masterwork and stellar
You can see the stickers on the table next to the mw and stellar

[xtwinstarx]

Dang it!

Originally Posted by ForceChange77

Jackson signed stickers along with masterwork and stellar
You can see the stickers on the table next to the mw and stellar

[Vargaman]

Originally Posted by xtwinstarx

bro, i'm on your team with price. I think he would have stayed expensive - like MW - if they didn't blow it out on stellar. Stellar is obviously the collector value destroyer. Look at Ford or Hayden even McDiarmid. Those used to be way bigger numbers. Now deflated.

I don't know about how low Jackson will get, but when he signed these and MW at that huge signing, these are the only sets we saw, so I don't think he may show up again that soon. Seems like they piggybacked on someone elses signing. But I hope these 100 sigs help to lower the price of the MW, cause yea they look way better.

The list of signers who de-valued is damn near the entire checklist. Only the few $10 signers got a small bump up to $30-$40.

Christie, Ridley, Driver, Jones, Ford all went down a bunch. Hamill was bumped up by the Krennic redemption that went along with his auto, but we all know how that turned out.

Stellar 2 sellers aren't even trying anymore, almost all autos are under $100 except for like 10 or so big name or new signers and they still aren't moving quickly, even with eBay having daily coupons to make them cheaper.

I'm pretty much done with autos, unless they're $10 or less or a steal, and focusing on cool sketches, aka ones from 2015 or earlier when artists were free to be artists and not this photo-realistic push form Disney that takes out all creativity. May as well let Bob come back with his printer since they're all blending together aside from people like Hardy or artists who add cool borders or details to make their work stick out.

[ForceChange77]

I dunno but I think topps really fed up on this release
Too many releases of the same people, poor design, not enough value even if you hit the right cards.
This should have been a smaller update set that kept repeat signers out of it and kept the same design. And priced at like $3k.

[Carrbeaz]

So far there have been 68 single cards sold for a grand total of roughly $12,000,

$196 cost average per card.