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Old 02-21-2013, 01:17 AM   #476
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That's extremely impressive considering it's his 5th season. Guy is unbelievably durable. There isn't one team in the league that wouldn't take a monster hit losing their second best player though, including Miami.
Wade or Bosh goes down, Lebron takes their spot and they still win. That's the luxury of having a player than can play 5 positions. But in playoffs they would need all the pieces though.

Heat last year was 17-3 without Wade
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Sorry you lost me with Tennis... Now your comparing football with tennis? Getting colder
He lost me when he first mentioned Jordan.....

But that line or two that I did read though, gave me deja vu!
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:17 AM   #478
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Highly doubt it, Durant isnt that good. He's just going to be like Ray Allen, Battier and Mike Miller. Whos going to do the passing and play center? Bosh?

LOL

OKC would win without a doubt!
Durrant isn't that good? Then you compare him with Allen,Battier, Mike Miller? First off Allen is better than Mike Miller and Battier. Durrant compared to Mike Miller? Hope you are joking
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Dwade and Bosh are Allstars that are clutch... What are you guys smoking? Bosh was a 24ppg beast at Toronto, and Dwade Was season MVP, and Averaged 30ppg before Lebron came. Arguable Wade is more clutch than Kobe. Westbrook cant hold a candle to Wade for fourth quarter performance. Ibaka cant be anywhere the scorer Bosh was. Not to mention Ray Allen, one of the big3 from Boston, is there to give Lebron a step up. Lebron is being baby fed.
LOL baby fed, yet he is leading his team in every category?

Take off the hate goggles its foggy

Ibaka is a key piece in the OKC defense, he allows them to get alot of fast breaks and saves them in alot of games. The dude is efficient and averages almost 3 blocks a game!

Not to mention no one would be in the paint when hes there.

He's no Bosh, but then again Bosh is up and down this year

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:20 AM   #480
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If Lebron went to OKC for Durant OKC will be scary defensively...yikes
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Dwade and Bosh are Allstars that are clutch... What are you guys smoking? Bosh was a 24ppg beast at Toronto, and Dwade Was season MVP, and Averaged 30ppg before Lebron came. Arguable Wade is more clutch than Kobe. Westbrook cant hold a candle to Wade for fourth quarter performance. Ibaka cant be anywhere the scorer Bosh was. Not to mention Ray Allen, one of the big3 from Boston, is there to give Lebron a step up. Lebron is being baby fed.
Funny how you downplay other players to prove that durant is better.
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Wade or Bosh goes down, Lebron takes their spot and they still win. That's the luxury of having a player than can play 5 positions. But in playoffs they would need all the pieces though.

Heat last year was 17-3 without Wade
Dude playoff games against OKC, SPurs, Clippers, without Dwade is a completely different story. If Dwade is not on Miami, it will be tough for them to win title. Dwade is like Kobe come 4th q.
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Funny how you downplay other players to prove that durant is better.
Guess what? If I pass the ball to Bosh, Wade, Allen who are all above 50% shooters, my assists will be really high too. His team makes him better. Chris Bosh is a 55% FG shooter hes so sick, people dont realize how good he is.
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Guess what? If I pass the ball to Bosh, Wade, Allen who are all above 50% shooters, my assists will be really high too. His team makes him better. Chris Bosh is a 55% FG shooter hes so sick, people dont realize how good he is.
lol.... continue to say how good Miami players are to downplay Lebron.
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Guess what? If I pass the ball to Bosh, Wade, Allen who are all above 50% shooters, my assists will be really high too. His team makes him better. Chris Bosh is a 55% FG shooter hes so sick, people dont realize how good he is.
So what happened in Cleveland? When he averaged more assists?
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Who's face is on 4 of the top 5 stats? LOL


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Guess what? If I pass the ball to Bosh, Wade, Allen who are all above 50% shooters, my assists will be really high too. His team makes him better. Chris Bosh is a 55% FG shooter hes so sick, people dont realize how good he is.
He's always been a good passer. Look at his stats when he played for the Cavs.
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So what happened in Cleveland? When he averaged more assists?
Look, Lebron is a great player. But hes not a closer. No matter how good he is, he still isnt clutch, and never was in the playoffs. Not like MJ, or Kobe, or Wade, Bird, Miller... Being a great player is being able to make big plays in the 4th IN THE FINALS. Lebron is not that, thats why he has Wade to make those plays. No wade= No clutch player with balls=No rings
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Who's face is on 4 of the top 5 stats? LOL


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He doesn't lead the team in blocks though, so he must not be a good defensive player
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Look, Lebron is a great player. But hes not a closer. No matter how good he is, he still isnt clutch, and never was in the playoffs. Not like MJ, or Kobe, or Wade, Bird, Miller... Being a great player is being able to make big plays in the 4th IN THE FINALS. Lebron is not that, thats why he has Wade to make those plays. No wade= No clutch player with balls=No rings
I'll admit he didn't play well in the 4th quarter against Dallas in the finals two years ago, but I think that had more to do with the team not really having their own identity yet, not because LeBron wasn't clutch. Remember game 5 against Detroit the year he took the Cavs to the Finals? Game 5 and game seven in Boston the next year? Those were both very close games but in the end Boston had more weapons than LeBron and that is why Cleveland lost that series, not because LeBron didn't play well in the 4th quarter.
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He doesn't lead the team in blocks though, so he must not be a good defensive player
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I would take Kyrie Irving over Lebron 4th quarter last shot anyday!
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Look, Lebron is a great player. But hes not a closer. No matter how good he is, he still isnt clutch, and never was in the playoffs. Not like MJ, or Kobe, or Wade, Bird, Miller... Being a great player is being able to make big plays in the 4th IN THE FINALS. Lebron is not that, thats why he has Wade to make those plays. No wade= No clutch player with balls=No rings
Games are made up of 4 quarters, a clutch player is one that gets the Job done in 3 quarters. In the 4th he's on the bench clutching his towel.

Clutch is not a stat and is severely overrated.
Top clutch players aren't even good players to begin with.



But Lebron was clutch as a mofo last year playoffs. Series after series after series. Ask Boston how clutch he is, then ask the Pacers, and the bulls. Oh dont forget OKC when he came back from the cramp to stick a dagger 3 when the game was tied in the final minutes
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Was Shaq clutch? Yet he has 4 rings and was dominant as hell
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Games are made up of 4 quarters, a clutch player is one that gets the Job done in 3 quarters. In the 4th he's on the bench clutching his towel.

Clutch is not a stat and is severely overrated.
Top clutch players aren't even good players to begin with.



But Lebron was clutch as a mofo last year playoffs. Series after series after series. Ask Boston how clutch he is, then ask the Pacers, and the bulls. Oh dont forget OKC when he came back from the cramp to stick a dagger 3 when the game was tied in the final minutes
lol playoff games will always be close. Doesnt matter. It will always come down to 4th quarter to close out games. Lebron had 1 clutch- sort of- shot last year playoffs. He made a 3 that was badly defended when he came back from getting vaginal cramps. Even dwade was pissed. Lebron plays 3 quarters, thats the problem. NBA kept playing his 1 clutch play over n over n over just to milk that moment.
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I would take Kyrie Irving over Lebron 4th quarter last shot anyday!
Lebron sat on 4th quarter because he got it done within 3 quarters. Irving's team is a losing team that needs him to play WAY more than 3 quarters every night.
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I would take Kyrie Irving over Lebron 4th quarter last shot anyday!
Is that why you hate LeBron? He's not a eilte shooter? If he was an eilte shooter it wouldn't even be fair. Why even watch and NBA game because Miami would go 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs. Every player has at least one weak point. Kyrie looks like a future superstar though, glad Cleveland has him.
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Lebron sat on 4th quarter because he got it done within 3 quarters. Irving's team is a losing team that needs him to play WAY more than 3 quarters every night.
Click on the clutch tab. Durant and Kyrie are way above Lebron
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lol playoff games will always be close. Doesnt matter. It will always come down to 4th quarter to close out games. Lebron had 1 clutch- sort of- shot last year playoffs. He made a 3 that was badly defended when he came back from getting vaginal cramps. Even dwade was pissed. Lebron plays 3 quarters, thats the problem. NBA kept playing his 1 clutch play over n over n over just to milk that moment.
Watch game 6 against boston facing elimination IN Boston.

Tell me you need clutch again, Lebron had Boston beaten by the half.
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Click on the clutch tab. Durant and Kyrie are way above Lebron
Told you already. Lebron could sit down in 4th quarter, not like other teams. And besides, the "clutch" does not include his assist.
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Lebron doesn't put his team in many clutch situations. That's a true leader.

Volume shooters tend to do that, dig their team in a hole and try to bail them in the end.

Is there a stat for missed clutches? Durant would be number one for sure.
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