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Old 03-13-2013, 01:34 AM   #1
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Thumbs down 2012 Holiday Inscription Redemption Request Turned Down!

So my first box of the 2012 Benchwarmer Holiday my wife pulls a redemption for a "Create your Own Inscription"...these sell for good money too!

Redeemed it on Dec. 26 2012....just got notified via email that the model(Miriam Gonzalez) turned down my request!

On January 2, 2013 I get this email:

From: Cassandra Martinez / Leaf Trading Cards

Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:23 PM

To: casket@accesstoledo.com

Subject: BW Inscription



Carl –



Congratulations on your custom inscription card! Please send me your request for the inscription card.



Thank you,

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So, we came up with this inscription request(this is my email reply:

From: Carl Wilson [mailto:casket@accesstoledo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:04 AM
To: Cassandra Martinez / Leaf Trading Cards
Subject: Re: BW Inscription



Hello Cassandra,



My custom inscription I would like is:



“Every girl wants a Pearl Necklace!” XXOO



Thank you,



Carl


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This is what I got back today...mind you,,,over 2 months have passed:



From: Cassandra Martinez / Leaf Trading Cards
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'Carl Wilson'
Subject: RE: BW Inscription



Carl



Unfortunately when we submitted this request to Mirium she did not approve. Please submit your second request for inscription.



Thank you,


I replied with a new inscription request but told them how disappointed we were on being turned down since it is a CREATE YOUR OWN deal

Just wanted to share this...very, very disappointed!


Update:

Just arrived on 8-12-2013

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Old 03-13-2013, 01:38 AM   #2
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I definitely could understand though why a female would not want to do that and think of it as poor taste. They're models, not porn stars (okay most of them haven't done porn)
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:47 AM   #3
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if there were disclaimers on the redemption I would understand it more....also, there is no bad language requested at all. Some of the inscriptions I have seen that the models have inscribed themselves are worse than what I requested...but I understand your point. I guess it really is not a create your own is what I am getting at....and again you can take my request in a good way too....lol
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:20 AM   #4
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if there were disclaimers on the redemption I would understand it more
There may not be a disclaimer, but it's still something she has to put her name next to...therefore if she wants to turn you down, it's her prerogative.

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....also, there is no bad language requested at all.
What you wanted is still a pretty well known sexual double entendre.

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Some of the inscriptions I have seen that the models have inscribed themselves are worse than what I requested
Other models aside, have you seen any from the particular model you pulled that are on par with what you requested? Maybe she prefers cleaner messages than some of the other girls.

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I guess it really is not a create your own is what I am getting at
So if you wanted racial slurs, or heavy cursing, or something in extremely poor taste that's ok because it's a "create your own"?

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and again you can take my request in a good way too....lol
Yeah, but it's obvious what you meant. You could just as easily have asked her to write "diamonds are a girl's best friend" if you actually meant jewelry.


Why not just have her write "To Carl, Lots of Love" or "To Carl, Hugs & Kisses"?
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:27 AM   #5
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There may not be a disclaimer, but it's still something she has to put her name next to...therefore if she wants to turn you down, it's her prerogative.



What you wanted is still a pretty well known sexual double entendre.



Other models aside, have you seen any from the particular model you pulled that are on par with what you requested? Maybe she prefers cleaner messages than some of the other girls.



So if you wanted racial slurs, or heavy cursing, or something in extremely poor taste that's ok because it's a "create your own"?



Yeah, but it's obvious what you meant. You could just as easily have asked her to write "diamonds are a girl's best friend" if you actually meant jewelry.


Why not just have her write "To Carl, Lots of Love" or "To Carl, Hugs & Kisses"?
I appreciate your response and respect what you have to say. I did not use racial slurs, heavy cursing, or anything to that extent. Now me asking for that inscription is in poor taste? Whose taste are we asking the opinion of? This girl spread her legs and posed nude! But that is in good taste of course...so that is ok? Yes, it is her call on what she signs....but in reality it does not make it your custom. Also, I have not researched what she has signed on these cards so I have no idea what she desires to write down, and again, it nullifies it being a custom inscription. Like I said, I am disappointed that this took so long for a turn down, not really that I got turned down
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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Carl, let me know what happens. I also have a Miriam Gonzalez redemption that I just redeemed a week but haven't been asked to submit an inscription yet. I wonder what's going on?
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So are you changing your inscription to "Every girl wants to be a censor!" XXOO ?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:02 AM   #8
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I do custom sketch cards, but I won't draw something I'm not comfortable with.


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Now me asking for that inscription is in poor taste? Whose taste are we asking the opinion of? This girl spread her legs and posed nude! But that is in good taste of course...so that is ok?
So just because she chooses to do what she does, that makes it ok for her to write something she feels is offensive?


If the issue is that it's taking too long, complain about that. If you feel you're out value because she won't sign what you want her to, ask for the redemption back or a new one that you can sell.

You said your complaint is that it took so long, but it sure looks like the problem is that she wouldn't sign what you wanted. If details aren't specified as to what they will sign, you do have a valid argument, take it up with the company before offering a second inscription choice.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:08 AM   #9
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Part of my complaint is that she would not sign what I requested.....if there were conditions as to what the model signs that should have been disclosed ahead of time....it is and still is advertised and documented that it is a Create Your Own Inscription....which..it is Not.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:30 AM   #10
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Part of my complaint is that she would not sign what I requested.....if there were conditions as to what the model signs that should have been disclosed ahead of time....it is and still is advertised and documented that it is a Create Your Own Inscription....which..it is Not.
What inscriptions have you seen so far that got sent back approved? Just wondering what everyone else is getting on theres?
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Man...I must be too outta the loop...Have no idea what the other meaning of the inscription is, so I thought it was fine
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What inscriptions have you seen so far that got sent back approved? Just wondering what everyone else is getting on theres?
Not heard of any redemptions being received yet...
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #13
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Carl, let me know what happens. I also have a Miriam Gonzalez redemption that I just redeemed a week but haven't been asked to submit an inscription yet. I wonder what's going on?
Will do....I requested a new inscription...this one should not be turned down

Playboy Miss March 2001 XXOO
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I do custom sketch cards, but I won't draw something I'm not comfortable with.
Yeah, this.



Technically, the OP is getting exactly what it seems (from this thread, I haven't read the actual verbiage) was stated for the redemption, anyway. He got to choose an inscription. It doesn't sound as though it explicitly promises you get your first choice any more than it explicitly states you might not.
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Man...I must be too outta the loop...Have no idea what the other meaning of the inscription is, so I thought it was fine
Yeah, I can understand her reasons. Here's an explanation (NSFW):

Pearl necklace (sexuality) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I just emailed Cassandra at Leaf and she told me to not make the inscription too risqué because miriam has rejected 2 other previous requests. Hopefully she'll accept my G rated request.
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I appreciate your response and respect what you have to say. I did not use racial slurs, heavy cursing, or anything to that extent. Now me asking for that inscription is in poor taste? Whose taste are we asking the opinion of? This girl spread her legs and posed nude! But that is in good taste of course...so that is ok? Yes, it is her call on what she signs....but in reality it does not make it your custom. Also, I have not researched what she has signed on these cards so I have no idea what she desires to write down, and again, it nullifies it being a custom inscription. Like I said, I am disappointed that this took so long for a turn down, not really that I got turned down

but just because a woman has posed nude before or dresses provocatively now doesn't at all mean that she should be forced to cooperate with something vulgar like that against her wishes that would be next to a picture of her.
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I just read the e-mail up above and I thought this was a prank.

Seriously man... someone who works in this industry and you're pretending like it's an innocent mistake. Even if it was that's a WELL known innuendo that isn't exactly hard to figure out if you've been keeping up with any kind of media.
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but just because a woman has posed nude before or dresses provocatively now doesn't at all mean that she should be forced to cooperate with something vulgar like that against her wishes that would be next to a picture of her.
No one is forcing her to do anything....lol.....not sure where you are coming up with that.
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I just read the e-mail up above and I thought this was a prank.

Seriously man... someone who works in this industry and you're pretending like it's an innocent mistake. Even if it was that's a WELL known innuendo that isn't exactly hard to figure out if you've been keeping up with any kind of media.
What in the hell are you trying to say here? No one is acting innocent here. Never pretended anything here...my point is clear.....disappointed that the custom create your own inscription that is advertised is Not a fact.....period.
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I just emailed Cassandra at Leaf and she told me to not make the inscription too risqué because miriam has rejected 2 other previous requests. Hopefully she'll accept my G rated request.
Cool....I hope she accepts my second request...which I posted earlier in this thread.
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Personally, my expectation of a woman who poses in her underwear for trading cards which also feature swatches of those underwear as wardrobe cards is to have a bit of a sense of humor regarding such an innuendo. After all, she makes a living selling sex. I think she is being pretty hypocritical to refuse to write such a quote. Are people really asking for things like "Bob, thanks for being a fan! XXOO" C'mon! On the other hand, I'm sure writing something like that could really bite her in the ass if she decides to run for president. Lighten' up. You want to play the part, play the part. You don't, quit.

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I appreciate your response and respect what you have to say.
Thank you. I'm pleasantly surprised that I've found someone with whom I can have an actual back-and-forth discussion concerning opposing viewpoints. I have to admit, I was expecting a typical bottle baby response, and I am glad that I did not get one.

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I did not use racial slurs, heavy cursing, or anything to that extent.
That's true, you did not. My point however, was that you believe that it should be a true custom and you should be able to request anything you'd like. By that logic, if you had wanted her to write something akin to "black people suck" or "Polish people are stupid", you should be able to.

I'm sure it's obvious that that won't fly. So because you have to leave those types of messages out (racial slurs, heavy cursing, etc.), you can't request just anything you'd like.

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Now me asking for that inscription is in poor taste? Whose taste are we asking the opinion of? This girl spread her legs and posed nude! But that is in good taste of course...so that is ok?
Let's not split hairs over who thinks what is in good or poor taste here. I used the phrases I did so I didn't have to actually type anything out and risk getting suspended or banned. Personally, I don't care what you asked her to write...but the fact that you're creeping up on equating her with being a whore or a porn star because she posed nude over a decade ago is a bit bothersome.

As far as a quick google search goes, she has not appeared in any adult movies. Now if she had been starring in 50 adult movies a year since her pictorial in Playboy then yeah, her turning down your request would be a bit odd.

But let's look at it this way: A lot of women have appeared in various states of undress. Heck, off the top of my head Kate Winslet, Anne Hathaway, Amanda Beard, and Katarina Witt have all been naked either on-screen or in print. Would you request the same inscription on an autograph from them?

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Yes, it is her call on what she signs....but in reality it does not make it your custom. Also, I have not researched what she has signed on these cards so I have no idea what she desires to write down, and again, it nullifies it being a custom inscription.
Again, like I said before...there are going to be things you can't request. To think otherwise is a bit naïve.

There may not be a disclaimer stating the model has the right to refuse inscription choices, but really, why should they have to put one on the redemption?

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Like I said, I am disappointed that this took so long for a turn down, not really that I got turned down
I can totally empathize with your frustration on the time it took to get word back. I know redemptions like everyone else, and having to wait that long sucks. But you never really mentioned that that was what was so disappointing in your first post. You definitely came across as being more cheesed off that you were turned down.

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No one is forcing her to do anything....lol.....not sure where you are coming up with that.

well you did say

'Part of my complaint is that she would not sign what I requested'

It is a Create your own Inscription but still the models personally DO have the right to turn down a request if it is in poor taste or reflects badly on them. Again this is for Benchwarmer where they do bikinis and lingerie and light hearted suggestive humor. I just think her, like most people especially women, would think the first request clearly crossed the line of decency
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haha i liked your inscription, jeep, spook's had crazy luck with his inscription redemptions.. hopefully he doesnt' get rejected for his 3 big ones!
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