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Old 02-14-2018, 03:25 PM   #26
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Umm baffling when you could have picked up Kizer SB ticket for 500 bucks verse 10 grand for Mahomes. Na just a smart collecter sir. Mahomes is very similar to Kizer as in accuracy issues and still learning defenses only difference is what team Mahomes plays for and stayed an extra year in college vs Kizer left early. Mahomes has all the pressure in the world now knowing if he doesn't perform he won't be around long. Kizer has the ability to either start again or sit out a year to mature more. Everyone knows Kizer didn't get a fair shot but Mahomes is now. He didn't wow me in Denver game though last year considering Broncos defense was basically mute knowing their season was over. I hope he does succeed but ask yourself would you rather be down 10 grand or 500 on both who are high risk for any unproven players.

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Just because one card is only $500 doesn't mean its a good buy.

Kizer is a terrible QB.

I wasn't factoring the hobby in my statement. You said" Kizer is a better QB if he was on a better team, so you wont factoring the hobby in the statement either.

You are more than welcome to have an opinion on the 2. I jsut happen to think you are wrong.

By all means sir, go buy the Kizer for $550, you smart collector you.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:26 PM   #27
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Also i'm curious to know how you see the start of the draft unfolding. Since Kizer is a better QB, they obviously wont be drafting one with their 1st or 4th pick, right?
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:27 PM   #28
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I have a Kizer auto for sale. Any takers????
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:36 PM   #29
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Kizer Soze is the GOAT.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:38 PM   #30
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I actually hope Kizer does well. Would love to sell the only auto of his I have. And it would mean the browns are doing better. I’m a bandwagon browns fan
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:40 PM   #31
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Just because one card is only $500 doesn't mean its a good buy.

Kizer is a terrible QB.

I wasn't factoring the hobby in my statement. You said" Kizer is a better QB if he was on a better team, so you wont factoring the hobby in the statement either.

You are more than welcome to have an opinion on the 2. I jsut happen to think you are wrong.

By all means sir, go buy the Kizer for $550, you smart collector you.
Did I say I bought? Actually just check last one sold for 415.00 but regardless I buy ice tickets mostly in contenders and yes Kizer has shown me more than Mahomes. He has better throwing mechanics and only struggles with feet work and reading defenses. On other hand Mahomes has many things wrong with his throwing mechanics that should have been fixed in high school. Here is a read https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/6/...as-tech-chiefs

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:42 PM   #32
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Also i'm curious to know how you see the start of the draft unfolding. Since Kizer is a better QB, they obviously wont be drafting one with their 1st or 4th pick, right?
Nope because Browns philosophy keep drafting a QB to fix issues. I hope Kizer gets traded and sits behind a veteran this year.

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:46 PM   #33
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Kizer Soze is the GOAT.
Kizer isn't Brady status but Cam Newton yes. Kizer was 2nd in NFL in rushing TDs behind that Cleveland line.

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Old 02-14-2018, 04:05 PM   #34
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:33 PM   #35
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This one sold for 2k before the trade. What's this seller realistically going to get? 4-5k if he moves it bedore the preseason?
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:04 AM   #36
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He's at Watson prices and hasn't played a snap yet. Chiefs need to find him a deep threat. Smith was the master of the dink and dunk. Hill needs a sidekick.

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Old 02-15-2018, 04:49 PM   #37
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Love Aaron Rodgers.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:46 PM   #38
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This card will exchange hands 20 times by 2020, each time after the first 10 going up, then going down in price.....final sale price to a die-hard KC/PC in 2020...$55
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Old 02-16-2018, 07:57 AM   #39
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He's reached Deshaun Watson prices already. I underestimated the Chiefs fan base lol

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Welcome to blowout. Please take the time to think about what you want to post before posting

But seriously. This is one of the most baffling statements I have read in a long, long time.
Yeah I wouldn't invest money into Kizer even if he was my son.... He sucks lol

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Old 02-17-2018, 12:42 PM   #41
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I don't think Kizer is better than Mahomes, but Mahomes isn't gonna do well. Just don't think he's gonna be the right fit for Reid's system.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:05 PM   #42
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Kizer had rough season guys but did he get a lot of help from the Browns? Was he put in a position to succeed?

Did he have a veteran QB in his ear to help mentor him?

DId he have good offensive play calling and a balanced offensive attack?

Right now, it is important to look at his arm power/accuracy and awareness and how well he will do with Todd Haley as the OC.

Being only 22 years old - I think he may still have a ton of potential.

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Old 02-17-2018, 02:57 PM   #43
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Kizer had rough season guys but did he get a lot of help from the Browns and was he put in a position to succeed?

Did he have a veteran QB in his ear to help mentor him?

DId he have good offensive play calling and a balanced offensive attack?

Right now, it is important to look at his arm power/accuracy and awareness and how well he will do with Todd Haley as the OC.

Being only 22 years old - I think he may still have a ton of potential.
Agree. He is very talented and if stayed with Notre Dame for this years draft we probably be saying Cleveland should draft Kizer. He needs work no doubt but this kid gut it out under what worst environment imaginal? He did find 2nd in league in QB running TDs.

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People look at his 22 interceptions but you guys do realize the playcalling was for him to chunk it down the field most of the time. It was horrendous.
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People look at his 22 interceptions but you guys do realize the playcalling was for him to chunk it down the field most of the time. It was horrendous.
Exactly new offensive coach now. This guy made it through the worse case scenario.

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Old 02-18-2018, 05:40 AM   #46
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Kizer looked good a couple games. I mean look what he was to work with lol
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:10 PM   #47
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Kizer looked good a couple games. I mean look what he was to work with lol
Hopefully this year if he has a chance the new offensive coordinator gets him some talent. My take he will be backup to veteran like AJ this season but never know.

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Old 02-18-2018, 08:21 PM   #48
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Hopefully this year if he has a chance the new offensive coordinator gets him some talent. My take he will be backup to veteran like AJ this season but never know.

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There is zero chance he starts for the Browns. And for the people defending him, look back at what his college coach said about him.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:24 AM   #49
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There is zero chance he starts for the Browns. And for the people defending him, look back at what his college coach said about him.
Yeah went 45 TD 18 INT over 60% throwing ratio while almost beating Clemson during that championship year. Oh yeah he won many close games also. College coach said that because he left early. Who cares and disagree on 0% chance. They draft someone without picking up a veteran watch out because he will outshine anyone in this new class while under a new offensive coach. Did I mention Steelers tried to pick up Kizer and guess what that offense coach was pushing for him to replace Ben now he is on Browns.

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