How do you figure out how much to charge for a group case break? - Page 2

iluvfish2 · 10-24-2012, 06:48 AM

Just a quick update for everyone as I think most everyone is aware that the USPS currently has flat rate priority mail envelope padded mailers.

Great option if your going to have to ship say a 400 or maybe larger count box of cards from a group break. I'm sure someone can veryify how large of a box you can fit into these (I know a 400 ct will work). Instead of having to ship a medium flat rate box, these fit easily in the flat rate boxes and right now with the online discounts ship under 5 bucks ($4.90).

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/...uctId=P_EP14PE

trixstar · 12-02-2012, 11:14 PM

Sorry if I missed it but what about tax on the case? Is that rolled into the direct cost or do you only go by the price you see when you're looking at the case prices before checkout? I'm interested in starting to host group breaks but wasn't sure about this.

iluvfish2 · 12-02-2012, 11:19 PM

I assume your talking Sales Tax? For anything like that you'll need to figure out how much your buying that you'd be taxed on.

Say yours 6% taxes.

You'll be taxed on the case (say $2000), and supplies ($50). Subtotal is 2050 * 1.06 = 2173 is your new total which you'd use to then factor slot prices on before you then factored in shipping, then paypal fees.

If your buying from out of state you typically dont have taxes. Does this help?

trixstar · 12-02-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by iluvfish2

I assume your talking Sales Tax? For anything like that you'll need to figure out how much your buying that you'd be taxed on.

Say yours 6% taxes.

You'll be taxed on the case (say $2000), and supplies ($50). Subtotal is 2050 * 1.06 = 2173 is your new total which you'd use to then factor slot prices on before you then factored in shipping, then paypal fees.

If your buying from out of state you typically dont have taxes. Does this help?

You know you're right, I guess I never looked at it and just assumed the tax was rolled in. I just added a case to checkout and test it. I'm in Washington state and wouldn't have to worry about tax.

Thanks

jkidd79 · 01-04-2013, 11:02 AM

I am new to this stuff what exactly is the point of a team case break. for my money do I get something or am I just giving my money to someone so they get cards and not me

jlzinck · 01-04-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jkidd79

I am new to this stuff what exactly is the point of a team case break. for my money do I get something or am I just giving my money to someone so they get cards and not me

It depends on the hind of break you enter.

If you get into a "Hit" break then you get the GU or auto that comes out in the slot that you are randomly matched up to before the break.

If a "Team" break you get all the cards from the team you get.

You are matched up with a team or hit in 1 or 2 ways.

Random- After the payments are received a Mod randoms the hit slot or team and then randoms the participants. So if your name it son top. You either get the 1st hit pulled, if a hit break or all the cards from the top team in the random.

Draft- If you are in a draft break wherever you end up you choose from the team or hit left when your turn comes.

jkidd79 · 01-04-2013, 12:24 PM

so is the "Hit" break done by pack or just when they come up...Soi was hit number 2 do I get second pack or the 2 insert from box

jlzinck · 01-04-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jkidd79

so is the "Hit" break done by pack or just when they come up...Soi was hit number 2 do I get second pack or the 2 insert from box

Hit breaks are usually done in higher end boxes (National Treasures) or boxes that only contain auto's and Relic cards.

So if you were to receive Hit #2 and the 2nd card out of the Box was an Andrew Luck auto then you would get that.

HawksFan67 · 09-21-2013, 06:00 AM

How would you factor in shipping form the USA to Canada? A two ounce package within the States cost me $1.74 for a two ounce package. Shipping that same 2 ounce pacakge to Canada is $6.50. And goes up from there. A huge difference. So how can you determine your shipping costs if you don't know how many packages have to go across border?

iluvfish2 · 09-21-2013, 06:29 AM

A lot of guys are now charging/factoring it both ways. If you live in say the US its XX per package, and if your in Canada (or international) ts XXX as it does cost more, but because of the cost differences you really cant factor both into one rate.

carpark03 · 05-04-2019, 05:48 PM

I am new to breaks, can I ask why it is taboo for breakers to make a profit? They are providing a service and should make a little money imo. In return the customer gets an opportunity at a big hit they otherwise may not have had due to the cost of purchasing an entire case.

Again though I am new to the breaking aspect of collecting so maybe I'm out to lunch on this one.

10-24-2012, 06:48 AM	#26
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 26,644 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	Just a quick update for everyone as I think most everyone is aware that the USPS currently has flat rate priority mail envelope padded mailers. Great option if your going to have to ship say a 400 or maybe larger count box of cards from a group break. I'm sure someone can veryify how large of a box you can fit into these (I know a 400 ct will work). Instead of having to ship a medium flat rate box, these fit easily in the flat rate boxes and right now with the online discounts ship under 5 bucks ($4.90). https://store.usps.com/store/browse/...uctId=P_EP14PE __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

12-02-2012, 11:19 PM	#28
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 26,644 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	I assume your talking Sales Tax? For anything like that you'll need to figure out how much your buying that you'd be taxed on. Say yours 6% taxes. You'll be taxed on the case (say $2000), and supplies ($50). Subtotal is 2050 * 1.06 = 2173 is your new total which you'd use to then factor slot prices on before you then factored in shipping, then paypal fees. If your buying from out of state you typically dont have taxes. Does this help? __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

09-21-2013, 06:00 AM	#34
HawksFan67 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 26 HawksFan60436	How would you factor in shipping form the USA to Canada? A two ounce package within the States cost me $1.74 for a two ounce package. Shipping that same 2 ounce pacakge to Canada is $6.50. And goes up from there. A huge difference. So how can you determine your shipping costs if you don't know how many packages have to go across border? __________________ Collecting all Chicago Blackhawks GU, Patch, RC's and Auto's. Member of Hobby Insider, Sports Card Forum, Ultimate Cardboard, Blowout Cards and CloutsnChara

09-21-2013, 06:29 AM	#35
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 26,644 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	A lot of guys are now charging/factoring it both ways. If you live in say the US its XX per package, and if your in Canada (or international) ts XXX as it does cost more, but because of the cost differences you really cant factor both into one rate. __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

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12-02-2012, 11:14 PM	#27
trixstar Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 24,130 stunner316	Sorry if I missed it but what about tax on the case? Is that rolled into the direct cost or do you only go by the price you see when you're looking at the case prices before checkout? I'm interested in starting to host group breaks but wasn't sure about this.

01-04-2013, 11:02 AM	#30
jkidd79 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Erie,PA Posts: 3,491	I am new to this stuff what exactly is the point of a team case break. for my money do I get something or am I just giving my money to someone so they get cards and not me

01-04-2013, 12:24 PM	#32
jkidd79 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Erie,PA Posts: 3,491	so is the "Hit" break done by pack or just when they come up...Soi was hit number 2 do I get second pack or the 2 insert from box

05-04-2019, 05:48 PM	#36
carpark03 Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 33	I am new to breaks, can I ask why it is taboo for breakers to make a profit? They are providing a service and should make a little money imo. In return the customer gets an opportunity at a big hit they otherwise may not have had due to the cost of purchasing an entire case. Again though I am new to the breaking aspect of collecting so maybe I'm out to lunch on this one.