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Old 12-03-2018, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default My BGS Submission results- I must have got a grader who had a bad day

I recently took advantage of the October BGS submission deal.

No subgrades
$8 per card
30 day sub
minimum 50 cards.

Here is the hockey portion.

Picked this up on ebay a few days before I submitted. FIgured I would include it and take a chance. Kind of a fail but I still like the card
1994-95 FInest Refractor Jaromir Jagr

1998-99 Bowman's Best Mirror Image Refractor Fedorov Reasonor

I hit this from a box of 98-99 FInest a few months ago. I figured it was worth a shot for $8.
1998-99 Topps FInest No Protector Refractor Pavel Bure

This one just hurt
1998-99 Bowman's Best Scotty Bowmans Refractor Chris Osgood

As a Bruins fan, this one was nice
1998-99 Bowman's Best Scotty Bowmans Refractor Ray Bourque

Lower graded Refractors
This one kind of hurt
1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Zdeno Chara

These two hurt. Not sure the chances of this
1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Peter Forsberg 1
1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Peter Forsberg

This one hurt too
1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Steve Yzerman

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Michael Handzus

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Joe Sakic

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Dominik Hasek

Now for the 9.5's. Some pretty decent guys in here
1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Brendan Shanahan

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Marian Hossa

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Mark Messier

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Martin Broduer

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Sergei Federov

1998-99 Bowman's Best Refractor Teemu Selanne

Now for the atomics!

Lower grades--This is just very disappointing since these do generally grade very well.

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Vincent Damphousse

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Chris Pronger

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Sergei Fedorov_20181203_0001

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Olli Jokinen

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Zigmund Palffy

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Scott Niedermeyer

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Sami Kapanen

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Nikolai Khalbibulin

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Mats Sundin

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Mark Bell

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic John Vanbiesbrouck

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Daren McCarty

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Daniel Alfredsson

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Bryan Berard

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Alexei Yashin

Now the four lonely 9.5's. This was a brutal submission.
1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Brian Leeth

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Doug Gilmour

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Jason Allison

1998-99 Bowman's Best Atomic Yan Golubovsky
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:46 PM   #2
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A 5 on the Chara sucks. Surface issues with the refractors? At least if you had the sub grades you’d be able to narrow down what the perceived problems with them were.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:14 AM   #3
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Damn and that is why I use a "dollar cost averaging" approach to grading as well.
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This is why I don't grade. So many variables and this is the sh*t that would happen to me. You basically donated $400 to Beckett; sorry OP
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Old 12-04-2018, 02:16 PM   #5
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This is why I don't grade. So many variables and this is the sh*t that would happen to me. You basically donated $400 to Beckett; sorry OP
There is nothing wrong with grading but it really depends on the cards being submitted

Generally speaking I find grading hockey cards not really efficient cost wise as what you spending in grading costs is too high in relation to how the grade will actually change the "graded value" of the card. Most times a grade below 9 will actually lower the value versus keeping the card raw in the first place

Since I PC 99% of my hockey purchases it doesnt make sense to grade when I have no intension of selling them anyways. For example I have an entire set of 96-97 Upper Deck Game Jerseys & 94-95 BAP Master Set I have no intension of ever selling, so why should I bother to grade them?

I only make exceptions on rarer Gretzky which appear gem mint or older 90's Gretzky Autos for protection purposes mostly

However I do send all of my best condition Michael Jordan cards in for grading as higher graded MJ cards bring a higher premium which justifies the grading costs for trading, resale, and storing high end PC cards. There is also a much higher resale on Jordan cards than hockey cards, for the most part so this is where it makes alot more sense to grade

I no longer use BGS as I have had many issues with BGS customer service in the past. I use PSA exclusively as I generally feel PSA cards have higher resale value, though there are certain exceptions to this as well

I feel your pain OP so I would keep grading hockey to a minimum unless you are looking to move a higher end card in which the grading cost will yield a higher sales value to justify it

Otherwise I'd just kep em raw in one touch holders and save the money spent grading for new PC purchases

I actually prefer the way raw cards look in one touch holders, but yes on some high end stuff (where a higher grade strongly influences the value of the card) it does make alot of sense to grade it

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Old 12-04-2018, 06:10 PM   #6
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A 5 on the Chara sucks. Surface issues with the refractors? At least if you had the sub grades you’d be able to narrow down what the perceived problems with them were.
Yup. There was a crease that I missed. I didn't see it until it was a 5.
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There is nothing wrong with grading but it really depends on the cards being submitted

Generally speaking I find grading hockey cards not really efficient cost wise as what you spending in grading costs is too high in relation to how the grade will actually change the "graded value" of the card. Most times a grade below 9 will actually lower the value versus keeping the card raw in the first place

Since I PC 99% of my hockey purchases it doesnt make sense to grade when I have no intension of selling them anyways. For example I have an entire set of 96-97 Upper Deck Game Jerseys & 94-95 BAP Master Set I have no intension of ever selling, so why should I bother to grade them?

I only make exceptions on rarer Gretzky which appear gem mint or older 90's Gretzky Autos for protection purposes mostly

However I do send all of my best condition Michael Jordan cards in for grading as higher graded MJ cards bring a higher premium which justifies the grading costs for trading, resale, and storing high end PC cards. There is also a much higher resale on Jordan cards than hockey cards, for the most part so this is where it makes alot more sense to grade

I no longer use BGS as I have had many issues with BGS customer service in the past. I use PSA exclusively as I generally feel PSA cards have higher resale value, though there are certain exceptions to this as well

I feel your pain OP so I would keep grading hockey to a minimum unless you are looking to move a higher end card in which the grading cost will yield a higher sales value to justify it

Otherwise I'd just kep em raw in one touch holders and save the money spent grading for new PC purchases

I actually prefer the way raw cards look in one touch holders, but yes on some high end stuff (where a higher grade strongly influences the value of the card) it does make alot of sense to grade it

I literally grade for the opposite. These are all PC unless I need money in the future. I prefer to hold onto graded cards but I know when I go to streamline the collection I will begin with the 8.5's and under just to tighten it up a little.

I am jaded by how awesome my last two PSA subs went.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:14 PM   #8
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I literally grade for the opposite. These are all PC unless I need money in the future. I prefer to hold onto graded cards but I know when I go to streamline the collection I will begin with the 8.5's and under just to tighten it up a little.

I am jaded by how awesome my last two PSA subs went.
Starman gives very sound advice from the point of view of A) a jordan collector and B) a basketball collector. With the exception of marque cards, grading hasn't seemed to catch on in hockey like it has in other sports, especially basketball. You can take a mid tier 90's jordan insert and it grades GEM and instead of 75 bucks it's 700 bucks. Try that with a Gretzky insert, you might double it if you can find anyone who cares. I've bought 9's for less than RAW prices for hockey. So if it's cause you like graded cards, or you're doing the whole set graded, cool. From a practical standpoint, he's pretty spot on in his assessment.

On the plus side, man I'm happy it's this way. No need to drive the price of hockey up. Let them do all that crazy stuff to the Brady contenders or Lebron Equisite RPA. Both of which sell for 10x's more than Crosby's Cup RPA. Cool, I like that deal. Ya'll stay over there and buy up Brady's and Lebron's so I can afford the cool hockey cards lol.
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man those would be beautiful in PSA holders
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:39 PM   #10
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Hockey/set collectors don't really care for grading or want them in their collections.

I know when I'm doing my soccer sets I instantly skip any graded stuff...
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Hockey/set collectors don't really care for grading or want them in their collections.

I know when I'm doing my soccer sets I instantly skip any graded stuff...
Hahaha....Soccer.
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Hahaha....Soccer.
People collect different stuff. Go check out the insane wrestling card collections people have, especially the rare graded stuff. Didn't think wrestling cards got that expensive, I was wrong.
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