I Love a Good Conspiracy Theory: NBA & Refs

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by mooshoo9795

Also, if you've been watching any of the games, I would expect that the TV networks are advised to play a role too. Maybe better TV contracts are given to those who comply. How many times have you seen some questionable calls and the NO replay?!!??! Ball is tipped out by two players and instead of showing the slow-mo replay of the tip, they'll go back and show a 3 or something. This is one reason why I've watched less and less NBA games over the years - combined with players loading up on like 5 teams...To me it seems too rigged and the underdog almost never wins a series.

I thought I was the only one that got pissed about this. I don't care about watching the dunk over... I want to see the foul or the turnover or whatever the call is. Everyone sees the dunk or the 3 because you can't miss that stuff. Fortunately, watching on cable allows me to rewind to watch plays like this over and then just fast forward through the commercials to catch back up.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by Skybox

I take it that this theory has been blown up since all series ended 4-1 or 4-0 ?

*crickets*

[SHowley2003]

Originally Posted by jj2

*crickets*

No crickets. The conversation of the refs impacting the outcome of the game is well founded. Hence the issues in 2007. The only question is how much direct control does the NBA have over the issue or do the refs do it in their own.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by SHowley2003

No crickets. The conversation of the refs impacting the outcome of the game is well founded. Hence the issues in 2007. The only question is how much direct control does the NBA have over the issue or do the refs do it in their own.

They're not doing a very good job.

[jbarnett83]

Originally Posted by SHowley2003

No crickets. The conversation of the refs impacting the outcome of the game is well founded. Hence the issues in 2007. The only question is how much direct control does the NBA have over the issue or do the refs do it in their own.

Honestly I believe it’s a win win for the NBA too...more games=$$$.....being a life long Suns fan, I do believe in some of the conspiracies brought up in here.

[hairyangryfella]

Scott Foster you say...?

[buttana944]

Marc Davis - has anybody checked out his games he's ref'd this post-season? Not sure if anybody can read that below but the closest game he's ref'd has been a margin of 10 points and only 1 home team has lost a game he's ref'd. It's criminal.


Sat. 4/14 Mia at Phi 27 W O 214 Head Ref Game 1 East 1st R
Tue. 4/17 Milw at Bos 14 W O 200 Head Ref Game 2 East 1st R
Sat. 4/21 Hou at Minn 16 W O 217 Head Ref Game 3 West 1st R
Mon. 4/23 OK at UT 17 W O 208 Head Ref Game 4 West 1st R
Wed. 4/25 Wash at Tor 10 W U 216.5 Head Ref Game 5 East 1st R
Fri. 4/27 Clev at Ind 34 W O 202 Head Ref Game 6 East 1st R
Mon. 4/30 Phi at Bos 16 W O 205 Head Ref Game 1 East 2nd R
Fri. 5/4 Hou at UT 21 L U 209.5 Head Ref Game 3 West 2nd R
Mon. 5/7 Tor at Clev 35 W O 213 Head Ref Game 4 East 2nd R
Sun. 5/13 Clev at Bos 25 W U 204.5 Head Ref Game 1 East Finals
Sun. 5/20 Hou at GS 41 W U 226.5 Head Ref Game 3 West Finals

[buttana944]

What I believe is the NBA operates sort of like a criminal organization or something similar to the Mafia. You have your Boss at the top (Stern), the owners below him or lieutenants per say, then everything else falls into place down the line. Money keeps everybody in check, somebody steps out of line their black listed. The refs help keep things flowing as such.

Do you think the NBA will ever have a Cinderella team ever in our lifetime (Villanova '85)? I sure don't believe so, you ever think Milwaukee plays Utah in an NBA Finals? That's never happening, too much money at stake, ratings, endorsement wise.

It's a shame I mean in a case like all the bigger market teams winning and getting the best players it's like WWE sort of without the scripted parts.

[8collector34]

Originally Posted by buttana944

What I believe is the NBA operates sort of like a criminal organization or something similar to the Mafia. You have your Boss at the top (Stern), the owners below him or lieutenants per say, then everything else falls into place down the line. Money keeps everybody in check, somebody steps out of line their black listed. The refs help keep things flowing as such.

Do you think the NBA will ever have a Cinderella team ever in our lifetime (Villanova '85)? I sure don't believe so, you ever think Milwaukee plays Utah in an NBA Finals? That's never happening, too much money at stake, ratings, endorsement wise.

It's a shame I mean in a case like all the bigger market teams winning and getting the best players it's like WWE sort of without the scripted parts.

I saw a documentary about "reality shows". In the 80s or 90s there was an episode in the game show Wheel of Fortune where the players absolutely sucked, and so the ratings tanked. The TV station decided to script every show after that, so this will never happen again. The documentary said that every game show, reality show and their likes have been scripted ever since. I myself were part of a couple of game shows here in Hungary, and although the players themselves have not been handed a script so to speak, but the players/contestants were far from having an equal chance. Some had absolutely no chance, while others were pretty much destined to win. By directing the events during a show you basically direct the players/contestants. Simple as that. Statistical mechanics, probability theory, call it whatever you want, there is science behind controlling seemingly random events. Even a ball falling into a net.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by buttana944

Marc Davis - has anybody checked out his games he's ref'd this post-season? Not sure if anybody can read that below but the closest game he's ref'd has been a margin of 10 points and only 1 home team has lost a game he's ref'd. It's criminal.


Sat. 4/14 Mia at Phi 27 W O 214 Head Ref Game 1 East 1st R
Tue. 4/17 Milw at Bos 14 W O 200 Head Ref Game 2 East 1st R
Sat. 4/21 Hou at Minn 16 W O 217 Head Ref Game 3 West 1st R
Mon. 4/23 OK at UT 17 W O 208 Head Ref Game 4 West 1st R
Wed. 4/25 Wash at Tor 10 W U 216.5 Head Ref Game 5 East 1st R
Fri. 4/27 Clev at Ind 34 W O 202 Head Ref Game 6 East 1st R
Mon. 4/30 Phi at Bos 16 W O 205 Head Ref Game 1 East 2nd R
Fri. 5/4 Hou at UT 21 L U 209.5 Head Ref Game 3 West 2nd R
Mon. 5/7 Tor at Clev 35 W O 213 Head Ref Game 4 East 2nd R
Sun. 5/13 Clev at Bos 25 W U 204.5 Head Ref Game 1 East Finals
Sun. 5/20 Hou at GS 41 W U 226.5 Head Ref Game 3 West Finals

Yeah, the home team tends to win a lot, which has been the case. The average margin has been 13 points across all games. What a conspiracy.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

[buttana944]

13 points across all games, yes I get that, home teams in the playoffs win more often, yes I get that, but for an NBA ref (Marc Davis) to be the Head ref of 11 games this playoff with an average game margin of 23.2 points a game something's not right.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by buttana944

13 points across all games, yes I get that, home teams in the playoffs win more often, yes I get that, but for an NBA ref (Marc Davis) to be the Head ref of 11 games this playoff with an average game margin of 23.2 points a game something's not right.

Go spew your crazy conspiracies somewhere else, like reddit. /r/nba would love your ridiculous theories.

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by buttana944

13 points across all games, yes I get that, home teams in the playoffs win more often, yes I get that, but for an NBA ref (Marc Davis) to be the Head ref of 11 games this playoff with an average game margin of 23.2 points a game something's not right.

Look up 'Small sample size' on Google.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Look up 'Small sample size' on Google.

LOL.

"It's criminal"