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Old 08-09-2018, 08:18 AM   #151
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Maybe there really are only 100 base cards, because the odds also work out better that way for the red 1/1's.
If there are 200 base cards, then half of the red 1/1's would have to be in retail.
Yeah but the odds wouldn't work on printing plates. On 100 base cards the printing plates would lead to a print run of like 320 cases lol.

I would bet the reds are in retail.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:19 AM   #152
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average case should yield:
12 autos
9 sketches
2 costume relics
1 poster patch
2 printing plates (printing plates are extra hits)
Wow that is a bunch of sketch cards per case!
Also with patches being that hard, maybe they will actually have some value.
I realize many will probably be in retail, but I am liking this case breakout!
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:23 AM   #153
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Wow that is a bunch of sketch cards per case!
Also with patches being that hard, maybe they will actually have some value.
I realize many will probably be in retail, but I am liking this case breakout!
Don't look at that breakdown. I don't know where he came up with that but that is incorrect information. Sketches are 6.26 per case.

Here is what you are guaranteed per case:
12 autos
6 skethces
2 posters
1 plate

The other 3 hits are going to be some combination of an extra plate, costume relic, extra poster, extra sketch.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:33 AM   #154
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Wow that is a bunch of sketch cards per case!
Also with patches being that hard, maybe they will actually have some value.
I realize many will probably be in retail, but I am liking this case breakout!
There seems to be a lot of interest in the patches so I think they are going to have some good value. However, the patches are what are throwing my case calculations off because other than that, I am getting the same numbers as everyone else here. I know retail changes things up a bit, but they must be planning to put a LOT of patches in retail.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:34 AM   #155
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:40 AM   #156
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Don't look at that breakdown. I don't know where he came up with that but that is incorrect information. Sketches are 6.26 per case.

Here is what you are guaranteed per case:
12 autos
6 skethces
2 posters
1 plate

The other 3 hits are going to be some combination of an extra plate, costume relic, extra poster, extra sketch.
You are missing 4 hits in this breakdown.
Dont count the plates as a hit, they were extra hits.
I've seen 2 cases being opened and both cases had only 1 poster patch & 2 costume relics.The rest of the 2nd hits are sketches so maybe the odds on the pack are off which is not impossible.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:56 AM   #157
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You are missing 4 hits in this breakdown.
Dont count the plates as a hit, they were extra hits.
I've seen 2 cases being opened and both cases had only 1 poster patch & 2 costume relics.The rest of the 2nd hits are sketches so maybe the odds on the pack are off which is not impossible.
The odds on the autos (1:37) yields 8 autos and they say that they guarantee 12 per case. I know there are parallels but can't imagine getting more than 2.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:57 AM   #158
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So low print run for hobby??? I might have to buy some boxes now.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:00 AM   #159
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I ran some numbers. All the parallel patches are hobby only, because they all come out to 175 to 180k packs, so 613 cases or so is right.

Per case:
Autos: 12 (4.07 #'ed)
Relics: 1.14
Patches: 2.67
Sketches: 6.26
Printing Plates: 1.70

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:06 AM   #160
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You are missing 4 hits in this breakdown.
Dont count the plates as a hit, they were extra hits.
I've seen 2 cases being opened and both cases had only 1 poster patch & 2 costume relics.The rest of the 2nd hits are sketches so maybe the odds on the pack are off which is not impossible.
Anything noteworthy in those cases?

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:07 AM   #161
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Also, not sure if anyone noticed, but the duals supposedly are base, gold, white and red.

I'm super curious how many we'll see of the ones with Ford and Ridley. The Ford/Fisher has to be the best one yet! Now to see if it's TFA or from OT.
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Yeah but the odds wouldn't work on printing plates. On 100 base cards the printing plates would lead to a print run of like 320 cases lol.

I would bet the reds are in retail.
Yeah, but it was pointed out there's definitely base cards from TFA and TL in this set, so the checklist has to be wrong, which means 200 cards and then 640 cases.

Meaning some plates will make it to retail like last time.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:17 AM   #163
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I wonder how many base SPs there are in the set?
Also how difficult will the be to spot?
Since they say SP and not variation, I would assume they would have different card numbers.
Hopefully they say SP-1, SP-2, etc

5 or 6 would be a good number to have, so you could make a SP set per case.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:18 AM   #164
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Anything noteworthy in those cases?

My tracker for this set is live and updated for when we start to see hits coming in...
Thing I noticed was sketch quality is good for the most part.
You need to be really lucky to hit a decent auto.Seems like the top autos are SP.
Best auto that came out of 2 cases was a Whitaker Plate auto
And some common autos were in double from the same case (regular & parallel but same guy)
Auto is a guaranteed hit per box.No boxes had 2 autos.

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:31 AM   #165
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You are missing 4 hits in this breakdown.
Dont count the plates as a hit, they were extra hits.
I've seen 2 cases being opened and both cases had only 1 poster patch & 2 costume relics.The rest of the 2nd hits are sketches so maybe the odds on the pack are off which is not impossible.
Good point. We've seen the odds be off before. That is actually even better from a value perspective to have plates be an extra hit.
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Thing I noticed was sketch quality is good for the most part.
You need to be really lucky to hit a decent auto.Seems like the top autos are SP.
Best auto that came out of 2 cases was a Whitaker Plate auto
And some common autos were in double from the same case (regular & parallel but same guy)
Auto is a guaranteed hit per box.No boxes had 2 autos.
Do you recall the color of the whittaker auto plate?

This set may be better for sketch and plate collectors than auto collectors, but we'll see after a few more breaks.
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I wonder how many base SPs there are in the set?
Also how difficult will the be to spot?
Since they say SP and not variation, I would assume they would have different card numbers.
Hopefully they say SP-1, SP-2, etc

5 or 6 would be a good number to have, so you could make a SP set per case.
I believe GF1 and GF2 had like 3 and 4 variants, respectively.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:49 AM   #168
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I ran some numbers. All the parallel patches are hobby only, because they all come out to 175 to 180k packs, so 613 cases or so is right.

Per case:
Autos: 12 (4.07 #'ed)
Relics: 1.14
Patches: 2.67
Sketches: 6.26
Printing Plates: 1.70
The odds look to tie out pretty good compared to some of the more recent pack odds.

The above adds up to be 23.8, so rounding up that is all 24 hits per case.

This breakout is exactly what I was hoping for.
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The odds look to tie out pretty good compared to some of the more recent pack odds.

The above adds up to be 23.8, so rounding up that is all 24 hits per case.

This breakout is exactly what I was hoping for.
Yeah I don't see how this could be any better. I ordered this before Han Solo and I've been bitter ever since that one, but this looks to be one of those releases where everyone will get their value out of a case and hopefully more than that. I am still swearing off of pre-sells moving forward. I've learned it's a lot easier to wait for the odds and make the decision then. Star Wars doesn't sell out or jump in price like the sports releases do so there's always time to jump in at the last minute.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:09 AM   #170
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Can anyone speculate on the number of Master Sets per case (minus short print base)?
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:19 AM   #171
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From a value standpoint, sketch cards will definitely suffer. There may be some cool one's worth keeping, but you'll take a big hit on selling the others.
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Do you recall the color of the whittaker auto plate?

This set may be better for sketch and plate collectors than auto collectors, but we'll see after a few more breaks.
Magenta I think
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I wonder how many base SPs there are in the set?
Also how difficult will the be to spot?
Since they say SP and not variation, I would assume they would have different card numbers.
Hopefully they say SP-1, SP-2, etc

5 or 6 would be a good number to have, so you could make a SP set per case.
Yeah this is the part that I am curious about as well. If memory serves, Masterwork has 25 short prints so I wouldn't be surprised if we see 25 here (even though this set is twice as big I am still going to guess 25 - I would hate it if we had 50 SPs).

So maybe 175 regular print base cards plus another 25 short print base cards?

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Old 08-09-2018, 10:32 AM   #174
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Somebody posted an auto of a Low level signer. It was numbered out of 414. Wtf topps. That is almost double what the highest base auto was last year which was like 200. Production could be a lot higher than we think
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There were no short print base cards in the last year’s reborn. Why would they start now?
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