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Old 10-26-2017, 09:59 PM   #326
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Doctors have "after sales" support requirements too. Say you go into hospital and the hospital needs your records but the doctor says, you know what, I'm not getting paid for this so get stuffed. Do you think anyone would want to be dealing with that doctor again? What about prescriptions etc..

This is the same for any business, if you dont support your customers, they leave. If you dont have customers you dont have a business.
But Hollywood’s business is films. They don’t even have to be good films, look a the Michael bay transformers movies. You want to hurt Hollywood, don’t go to the movies. Otherwise the a list actors putting butts in the seats could flipmfans off at the world premier, if it doesn’t effect box office returns, studios don’t care.
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:16 PM   #327
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But Hollywood’s business is films. They don’t even have to be good films, look a the Michael bay transformers movies. You want to hurt Hollywood, don’t go to the movies. Otherwise the a list actors putting butts in the seats could flipmfans off at the world premier, if it doesn’t effect box office returns, studios don’t care.


I honestly don’t get why they can’t have a transformers movie without humans. It’d be like Disney’s cars for adults lol.


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Old 10-26-2017, 11:26 PM   #328
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I honestly don’t get why they can’t have a transformers movie without humans. It’d be like Disney’s cars for adults lol.


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Old 10-27-2017, 05:13 PM   #329
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You can disagree with it all you want...fact remains that actors do not get rich and famous (and therefore have their autograph wanted) if not for their fans. Actors do not get the life they have if not for their fans. They literally owe their livelihood to them. This is not to say that this gives us a right to impede on their lives or anything, but to say they owe nothing to their fans is wrong.
I'm not saying they owe NOTHING to the fans. What they owe (and if you read the article you'd understand my point) is that particular product (if they are a writer etc etc). That is the "contract" in regards to: I pay $10 to see this particular movie, in return I get to watch this movie. They owe absolutely NOTHING above and beyond that though, and many (like Varga or yourself) think they do. The product of their work came first. Do you get that? Not the other way around (again which the article articulates very well).

Stephen King owes nothing but his best ability to write good books. He doesn't owe them signed copies. Yet he goes above & beyond and always signs, even at 70yrs old. Unsure what your problem is understanding this.

And again, Star Wars would be a B movie without Ford. Plain and Simple. Rogue One was the nice surprise in the last few years though.
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Old 10-27-2017, 08:47 PM   #330
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And again, Star Wars would be a B movie without Ford. Plain and Simple. Rogue One was the nice surprise in the last few years though.
It’s still a B movie, just a highly entertaining one with a huge fan base.
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:07 AM   #331
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And again, Star Wars would be a B movie without Ford. Plain and Simple.
This doesn't even make sense. You are attributing the success of star wars with Ford, that's not at all how it worked. He was a carpenter for the set. Literally a worker for Lucas. They didn't get a big star for the role. The role made him a star. Not only that, but many special effects were INVENTED for the film. As well as camera matting and tracking which had never been done before. Aside from the cultural significance, Star Wars was on the razor's edge of film making at the time. It also started ILM, which you wouldn't call a B movie effects house. We're not even getting into box office amounts and what have you.
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This doesn't even make sense. You are attributing the success of star wars with Ford, that's not at all how it worked. He was a carpenter for the set. Literally a worker for Lucas. They didn't get a big star for the role. The role made him a star. Not only that, but many special effects were INVENTED for the film. As well as camera matting and tracking which had never been done before. Aside from the cultural significance, Star Wars was on the razor's edge of film making at the time. It also started ILM, which you wouldn't call a B movie effects house. We're not even getting into box office amounts and what have you.


I don't think you have a grasp on the true meaning of a B movie
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:16 AM   #333
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B movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_movie
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The Bond film that year was The Spy Who Loved Me and it cost $14M. The OTHER big sci-fi film that year was Close Encounters and it was $18M. What are you using as a yard stick for low budget?

Star Wars budget was $11 Million, but that was 40 years ago.

These are from your article, in the 70s section:

The movie under consideration was The Texas Chain Saw Massacre. Made by Tobe Hooper for less than $300,000, it became one of the most influential horror films of the 1970s.[131] John Carpenter's Halloween (1978), produced on a $320,000 budget, grossed over $80 million worldwide and effectively established the slasher flick as horror's primary mode for the next decade.
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I apologize if this has already been discussed -- but -- Are there plans for a group break on this forum? I just did a basic search and didnt see a thread.
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I apologize if this has already been discussed -- but -- Are there plans for a group break on this forum? I just did a basic search and didnt see a thread.
I believe earlier in the thread one of the bigger blowout group breakers mentioned putting in a request for multiple cases to group break. But it has not gone up live yet.
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:30 PM   #337
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I am curious if, for example, the 20 absent 1/1s (40 signers with 3 colors and only 100 sets made, unless there's 20 bonus autos to be pulled ) will all be from the same color or not. So then there'd be two possible full 40 signer 1/1 sets some millionaire could try to assemble haha.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:28 PM   #338
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There are actually 4,120 total cards for 100 boxes, so an average of 41.2, so either Topps is holding back 120 cards or you will get an extra card or 2.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:08 PM   #339
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There are actually 4,120 total cards for 100 boxes, so an average of 41.2, so either Topps is holding back 120 cards or you will get an extra card or 2.
They might make an additional 120 as replacements in case of damage?
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:29 PM   #340
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With how low the Masterworks on card autos are selling for I really can't see the value in these boxes.

Harrison Ford will likely be in some of the boxes, but certainly not all of them. My guess is 1 in every 4-6 boxes will have a Ford.
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Topps has said multiple times that all 40 signers are in every box. If ford is in 1 box, he is in every box.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:07 PM   #342
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Topps has said multiple times that all 40 signers are in every box. If ford is in 1 box, he is in every box.
I disagree. I don't know exactly how this will be handled, but my thought is Topps can't afford to put Ford in every box, but they know he has to be represented in this product or it won't be well received.

Perhaps there will be 40 different signers in every box with some boxes containing a bonus, 41st auto of Ford?
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I disagree. I don't know exactly how this will be handled, but my thought is Topps can't afford to put Ford in every box, but they know he has to be represented in this product or it won't be well received.

Perhaps there will be 40 different signers in every box with some boxes containing a bonus, 41st auto of Ford?
For what these were pre-sold at, they can most certainly afford to put Ford in every box.

If every set doesn't contain one of every signer, people are going to lose their minds.
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For what these were pre-sold at, they can most certainly afford to put Ford in every box.

If every set doesn't contain one of every signer, people are going to lose their minds.
I swear somewhere in this thread someone did the math and there are “extra” cards assuming every card has the same print run across all parallels. Having a “bonus hit” randomly inserted if thats the case would solve that problem. Anyone wanna dig through the thread to find it?
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I swear somewhere in this thread someone did the math and there are “extra” cards assuming every card has the same print run across all parallels. Having a “bonus hit” randomly inserted if thats the case would solve that problem. Anyone wanna dig through the thread to find it?


Are you referring to the 20 extra 1/1 cards (120 total 1/1's, 1 per box). Don't think that would apply to Fords, but I do wonder what they will do with them, and which characters will be a part of those 20
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I swear somewhere in this thread someone did the math and there are “extra” cards assuming every card has the same print run across all parallels. Having a “bonus hit” randomly inserted if thats the case would solve that problem. Anyone wanna dig through the thread to find it?
I don't know. Might've been me!

Topps did say this on their Facebook page back on August 5: "This box will contain all 40 signers that will be featured, not a bunch of randoms. You are guaranteed to get every signer."
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I don't know. Might've been me!

Topps did say this on their Facebook page back on August 5: "This box will contain all 40 signers that will be featured, not a bunch of randoms. You are guaranteed to get every signer."
What if ford isn’t a “featured” signer but a bonus only in some boxes? That + 20 1/1s + some ford parallels and other assorted “not featured” bonus hits would get us back to 100 extra cards and 41 cards per box. The 40 guaranteed featured autos and 1 bonus hit.
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There are actually 4,120 total cards for 100 boxes, so an average of 41.2, so either Topps is holding back 120 cards or you will get an extra card or 2.
I posted this a few weeks ago
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I disagree. I don't know exactly how this will be handled, but my thought is Topps can't afford to put Ford in every box, but they know he has to be represented in this product or it won't be well received.

Perhaps there will be 40 different signers in every box with some boxes containing a bonus, 41st auto of Ford?
Topps has said multiple times that every box has every signer.
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Weren't we assuming that one of the 40 cards in each box was a 1/1? That would make 4020 total cards, with 20 extra. Because we know that the parallel autos will mixed in as part of the 40 cards (or the other early speculation which was a box having all 40 of one parallel type like a box of entirely /5 autos to keep sets together).
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