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Old 03-12-2018, 02:46 PM   #1401
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So ESPN is a little bit clunky with keepers and won't work 100% smoothly. If any teams elect not to use all 20 keepers (only silverandblack so far), ESPN automatically gives them an extra pick at the beginning of the draft. Per our league rules, that pick should come at the end of the draft

To get around this, we'll have the owner in any instances of this take someone like Derek Jeter until we get to the point where the draft should start. Then after the draft, those owners will get first dibs at players not selected before they go to waivers

This make sense to everyone?
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:53 PM   #1402
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:50 AM   #1403
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I've sent multiple PMs and emails to HOF and bshea, but both are still missing their keepers from both. If it gets to Thursday and they still haven't not it, I have to make those decisions for them to allow us to draft. Here's what I'm thinking for keepers for both of them. Does this sound fair?

Bshea
1. Eric Hosmer
2. Trea Turner
3. Giancarlo Stanton
4. Andrew Benintendi
5. Xander Bogaerts
6. Gleyber Torres
7. Clint Frazier
8. Paul deJong
9. Nick Castellanos
10. Matt Carpenter
11. Kyle Schwarber
12. Zack Cozart
13. Luke Weaver
14. Alex Wood
15. Justin Verlander
16. Marcus Stroman
17. Lance McCullers
18. Sonny Gray
19. Alex Cobb
20. Josh Hader

That would mean dropping Jonathan Lucroy, Corey Dickerson, Joey Gallo, Garrett Richards, Chris Devinski, Matt Belisle, Kevin Gausman, Marco Estrada, German Marquez, and Homer Bailey

I'm on the fence about Lucroy, Dickerson, and Gallo, but feel the rest of those decisions are logical

HOF
1. JT Realmuto
2. Paul Goldschmidt
3. Jean Segura
4. Alex Bregman
5. George Springer
6. Lorenzo Cain
7. Yasiel Puig
8. Carlos Correa
9. Byron Buxton
10. Brendan Rodgers
11. AJ Pollock
12. Ender Inciarte
13. Taijuan Walker
14. Lucas Giolito
15. Roberto Osuna
16. Ken Giles
17. Julio Urias
18. Jose Berrios
19. Brad Brach
20. Shohei Ohtani (brought up from minors)

That would mean dropping Orlando Arcia, Mickey Moniak, Jacoby Ellsbury, Starlin Castro, Kenta Maeda, James Shields, Antonio Senzatela, David Robertson, Michael Lorenzen, Francisco Liriano, Jeff Hoffman, Hishai Iwakuma, Trevor Rosenthal

Only ones I'm on the fence about here are Arcia and Castro, I feel like the rest are pretty logical
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:55 AM   #1404
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I've sent multiple PMs and emails to HOF and bshea, but both are still missing their keepers from both. If it gets to Thursday and they still haven't not it, I have to make those decisions for them to allow us to draft. Here's what I'm thinking for keepers for both of them. Does this sound fair?

Bshea
1. Eric Hosmer
2. Trea Turner
3. Giancarlo Stanton
4. Andrew Benintendi
5. Xander Bogaerts
6. Gleyber Torres
7. Clint Frazier
8. Paul deJong
9. Nick Castellanos
10. Matt Carpenter
11. Kyle Schwarber
12. Zack Cozart
13. Luke Weaver
14. Alex Wood
15. Justin Verlander
16. Marcus Stroman
17. Lance McCullers
18. Sonny Gray
19. Alex Cobb
20. Josh Hader

That would mean dropping Jonathan Lucroy, Corey Dickerson, Joey Gallo, Garrett Richards, Chris Devinski, Matt Belisle, Kevin Gausman, Marco Estrada, German Marquez, and Homer Bailey

I'm on the fence about Lucroy, Dickerson, and Gallo, but feel the rest of those decisions are logical

HOF
1. JT Realmuto
2. Paul Goldschmidt
3. Jean Segura
4. Alex Bregman
5. George Springer
6. Lorenzo Cain
7. Yasiel Puig
8. Carlos Correa
9. Byron Buxton
10. Brendan Rodgers
11. AJ Pollock
12. Ender Inciarte
13. Taijuan Walker
14. Lucas Giolito
15. Roberto Osuna
16. Ken Giles
17. Julio Urias
18. Jose Berrios
19. Brad Brach
20. Shohei Ohtani (brought up from minors)

That would mean dropping Orlando Arcia, Mickey Moniak, Jacoby Ellsbury, Starlin Castro, Kenta Maeda, James Shields, Antonio Senzatela, David Robertson, Michael Lorenzen, Francisco Liriano, Jeff Hoffman, Hishai Iwakuma, Trevor Rosenthal

Only ones I'm on the fence about here are Arcia and Castro, I feel like the rest are pretty logical
They both paid and now unreachable?
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:06 AM   #1405
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Seems like it. Still a few days til I need to step in, but I will have to make the decisions come Thursday to make sure we can draft

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Old 03-13-2018, 10:09 AM   #1406
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Seems like it. Still a few days til I need to step in, but I will have to make the decisions come Thursday to make sure we can draft
I trust your judgement, I know you wouldn't drop anyone that didn't deserve to be on the team.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:55 PM   #1407
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I've sent multiple PMs and emails to HOF and bshea, but both are still missing their keepers from both. If it gets to Thursday and they still haven't not it, I have to make those decisions for them to allow us to draft. Here's what I'm thinking for keepers for both of them. Does this sound fair?

Bshea
1. Eric Hosmer
2. Trea Turner
3. Giancarlo Stanton
4. Andrew Benintendi
5. Xander Bogaerts
6. Gleyber Torres
7. Clint Frazier
8. Paul deJong
9. Nick Castellanos
10. Matt Carpenter
11. Kyle Schwarber
12. Zack Cozart
13. Luke Weaver
14. Alex Wood
15. Justin Verlander
16. Marcus Stroman
17. Lance McCullers
18. Sonny Gray
19. Alex Cobb
20. Josh Hader

That would mean dropping Jonathan Lucroy, Corey Dickerson, Joey Gallo, Garrett Richards, Chris Devinski, Matt Belisle, Kevin Gausman, Marco Estrada, German Marquez, and Homer Bailey

I'm on the fence about Lucroy, Dickerson, and Gallo, but feel the rest of those decisions are logical

HOF
1. JT Realmuto
2. Paul Goldschmidt
3. Jean Segura
4. Alex Bregman
5. George Springer
6. Lorenzo Cain
7. Yasiel Puig
8. Carlos Correa
9. Byron Buxton
10. Brendan Rodgers
11. AJ Pollock
12. Ender Inciarte
13. Taijuan Walker
14. Lucas Giolito
15. Roberto Osuna
16. Ken Giles
17. Julio Urias
18. Jose Berrios
19. Brad Brach
20. Shohei Ohtani (brought up from minors)

That would mean dropping Orlando Arcia, Mickey Moniak, Jacoby Ellsbury, Starlin Castro, Kenta Maeda, James Shields, Antonio Senzatela, David Robertson, Michael Lorenzen, Francisco Liriano, Jeff Hoffman, Hishai Iwakuma, Trevor Rosenthal

Only ones I'm on the fence about here are Arcia and Castro, I feel like the rest are pretty logical
Personally id keep Gausman over Dejong for team one and for team 2 Ohtani is on minors and hasnt broken the IP/AB needed so i know we allowed a exception for him in the draft to be picked and no more international after but I would think he would be minor leagues until met and then keeping a arcia.... but i mean i cant argue your logic either
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:14 PM   #1408
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So ESPN is a little bit clunky with keepers and won't work 100% smoothly. If any teams elect not to use all 20 keepers (only silverandblack so far), ESPN automatically gives them an extra pick at the beginning of the draft. Per our league rules, that pick should come at the end of the draft

To get around this, we'll have the owner in any instances of this take someone like Derek Jeter until we get to the point where the draft should start. Then after the draft, those owners will get first dibs at players not selected before they go to waivers

This make sense to everyone?
If it is easier for draft purposes you can put Arrieta back on as my last keeper. I only dropped him cause he was a FA at the time and of course the next day he signs.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:32 PM   #1409
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Main reason I'd call up Ohtani now is that HOF expressed interest in doing so before (see quoted), I just haven't been able to confirm with him that he knows Moniak would be outright dropped (since we can't demote players to minors)

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Personally id keep Gausman over Dejong for team one and for team 2 Ohtani is on minors and hasnt broken the IP/AB needed so i know we allowed a exception for him in the draft to be picked and no more international after but I would think he would be minor leagues until met and then keeping a arcia.... but i mean i cant argue your logic either
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Let's see if I did this right. I would like to promote Otani and designate Moniak.
Leaguemates, thoughts? I personally don't like the idea of adding someone back after they were dropped, even with the unfortunate timing, but if you guys are more sympathetic than me, I'd consider it

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If it is easier for draft purposes you can put Arrieta back on as my last keeper. I only dropped him cause he was a FA at the time and of course the next day he signs.
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:22 PM   #1410
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Still nothing from HOF or bshea. They both have about 24 hours left to make their selections before I have to step in
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:26 PM   #1411
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I don't like the thought of adding someone back on after being dropped for keepers... the other 2 teams look good keeper wise to me.
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I don't like the thought of adding someone back on after being dropped for keepers... the other 2 teams look good keeper wise to me.
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:17 AM   #1413
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Final call for bshea and HOF
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Try PMing them? I assume you did, but just want to be sure.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:41 PM   #1415
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I've sent multiple PMs and multiple direct emails through ESPN, no responses. Not sure if there's anything else I can do

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Old 03-15-2018, 08:37 PM   #1416
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HOF took care of his keepers!
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Well some of them at least.
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:16 PM   #1418
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He has them all set, just hasn't dropped his non keepers. I'll do that for him in the morning if needed

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Old 03-16-2018, 09:13 AM   #1419
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Reminder that if there's any guys on your prospect roster you don't want to keep, I need you to post in here telling me which guys by 1 hour before the draft. Rosters will lock at that point

We'll go straight into the prospect draft after the MLB draft concludes. Reminder that the prospect draft will take place here in this thread
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:36 PM   #1420
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What if you draft someone that is someone else's prospect?
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Don't because that's not allowed If someone isn't in the draft lobby and is autodrafting and a prospect is up next, I'm not sure how best to handle that situation. I believe I have the power to draft for them as commish, maybe just give them the next player autodraft would have given them?

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It would probably be easier on everyone if we just had a gentlemans rule to not draft prospects. I know I won't be....but it would just make it simple.
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It would probably be easier on everyone if we just had a gentlemans rule to not draft prospects. I know I won't be....but it would just make it simple.
I agree with this
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Yeah, that should be implied, but that doesn't cover the case if someone can't make it to the draft and has autodrafting picking for them. Not a guarantee that any prospects would be taken by autodraft, but we should figure out what to do if that does happen

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Bshea's time is up, I'm going to set his keepers as described above now
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