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Old 11-18-2018, 08:58 PM   #1
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Default 1993 Jeter SP Crossover

So I am going to try my luck with a crossover. I bought a BGS 9 (2x9.5 and 2x9) and I bought a SGC 9. They will arrive this week and I am going to ship them to PSA. Please let me know your thoughts. I know it is a long shot but I think they look good and they backs don’t show the signs of trimmed card.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:02 PM   #2
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Did you crack them? Or sending in cases?
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:04 PM   #3
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bgs might make it.

sgc will come back min size.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:09 PM   #4
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bgs might make it.

sgc will come back min size.

Why do you think it will come back min size?

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Did you crack them? Or sending in cases?

I will not crack them out. Review in the case?



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Why do you think it will come back min size
psa notoriously rejects this card as n9, whether raw or not.

and there seems to be a good 1/16th” of room at the bottom of that holder.

and honestly why would a 93 jeter be in an sgc holder to begin with?
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:18 PM   #6
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Play the lottery instead. Less effort and the same odds.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:22 PM   #7
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psa notoriously rejects this card as n9, whether raw or not.



and there seems to be a good 1/16th” of room at the bottom of that holder.



and honestly why would a 93 jeter be in an sgc holder to begin with?


Almost every Jeter in a SGC case has a gap. Even the SGC 98 that sold for $60000 had a gap.
Why would any card be in a SGC? That statement makes no sense to me.
Well I hope it comes back a PSA 9 but if not I still have a super nice PC card:-)


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Old 11-18-2018, 09:24 PM   #8
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Play the lottery instead. Less effort and the same odds.


Mega millions actually has better odds:-)


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Old 11-18-2018, 09:29 PM   #9
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Is there a minimum grade you are going to tell PSA or you going to roll the dice and take whatever grade they give?
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Almost every Jeter in a SGC case has a gap. Even the SGC 98 that sold for $60000 had a gap.
Why would any card be in a SGC? That statement makes no sense to me.
Well I hope it comes back a PSA 9 but if not I still have a super nice PC card:-)


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hey bud,

dont get your panties in a wad when you post a question and dont get the answer you wanted.

and the sgc holder question? really?

sgc is primarily pre-war and vintage, not 93 shiny.

and here’s the real question?

why are you buying bgs and sgc 93 jeters tryng to get them into psa holders, instead of just buying a psa 9?

the answer is already burried in my first reply.

but dont take it from a guy that landed a 10 or a psa/dna 9.

but best of luck. especially on the sgc.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:35 PM   #11
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hey bud,



dont get your panties in a wad when you post a question and dont get the answer you wanted.



and the sgc holder question? really?



sgc is primarily pre-war and vintage, not 93 shiny.



and here’s the real question?



why are you buying bgs and sgc 93 jeters tryng to get them into psa holders, instead of just buying a psa 9?



the answer is already burried in my first reply.



but dont take it from a guy that landed a 10 or a psa/dna 9.



but of luck.


Hey bud... panties not in a wad. Not mad at all. I like the SGC holder. All the companies grade modern cards and they are all “good” at it, haha
If I can spend 1/2 the price and get a PSA 9 it is worth the try. It is fun for me and if they don’t cross then I have two really great cards. If they do cross then I make a little money and keep one in the collection.


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Is there a minimum grade you are going to tell PSA or you going to roll the dice and take whatever grade they give?


Min grade 9


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Old 11-18-2018, 09:38 PM   #13
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So I compared the 3 major companies. Here are the gem mint and mint for each company. SGC looks to be the hardest on grading and the bring the 2nd most money.

SGC
Total graded: 2189
1 98 .04%
76 96 3.4%

PSA
Total graded:
14267
PSA 10- 22 1.5%
PSA 9582 4%

BGS
Total graded 14405
9.5- 240 1.6%
9- 2287 15.8%


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Hey bud... panties not in a wad. Not mad at all. I like the SGC holder. All the companies grade modern cards and they are all “good” at it, haha
If I can spend 1/2 the price and get a PSA 9 it is worth the try. It is fun for me and if they don’t cross then I have two really great cards. If they do cross then I make a little money and keep one in the collection.


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exactly.

and you dont think that card has been to psa already?

or the $60k one (if that sale was even legit, which has been questioned by several people).

if i were buying 93 sp’s to cross, i would look for the bgs ones, not sgcs.

honest answers.
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So I compared the 3 major companies. Here are the gem mint and mint for each company. SGC looks to be the hardest on grading and the bring the 2nd most money.

SGC
Total graded: 2189
1 98 .04%
76 96 3.4%

PSA
Total graded:
14267
PSA 10- 22 1.5%
PSA 9582 4%

BGS
Total graded 14405
9.5- 240 1.6%
9- 2287 15.8%


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thank you. those numbers also speak volume.

pun most certainly, literally and figuratively implied

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exactly.



and you dont think that card has been to psa already?



or the $60k one (if that sale was even legit, which has been questioned by several people).



if i were buying 93 sp’s to cross, i would look for the bgs ones, not sgcs.



honest answers.


I was just trying to find the nicest cards regardless of the holder. The SGC I picked has really good corners(no white on them) great centering and good edges. I think it looks great.
I have never tried to cross a card between any company so it is a learning experience.
I appreciate the feedback though!


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thank you. those numbers also speak volume.

pun most certainly and literally implied.


Haha, nice pun:-)
Well I hope you are wrong on my card:-) we will see in a few weeks


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I was just trying to find the nicest cards regardless of the holder. The SGC I picked has really good corners(no white on them) great centering and good edges. I think it looks great.
I have never tried to cross a card between any company so it is a learning experience.
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cool. and being helpful here, but just google “psa, n9 and 93 jeter” and youll see what i am referring too and why i specifically used the word “notorious”.

was literally trying to give you solid advice from experience.


and did give you a thumbs up on the bgs.
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cool. and being helpful here, but just google “psa, n9 and 93 jeter” and youll see what i am referring too and why i specifically used the word “notorious”.



was literally trying to give you solid advice from experience.





and did give you a thumbs up on the bgs.


Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it. I am out of town so i will have a good mail day when I get back. It will be nice to see them in hand


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inserting for future research on this topic:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...erers-to-psa-9

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...mment_10480193

http://www.net54baseball.com/archive...?t-228337.html

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theyre everywhere!
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thank you. those numbers also speak volume.

pun most certainly, literally and figuratively implied
Yes, they send them to PSA and the 50% that come back Min size mostly go to BGS with a few going to SGC
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:22 AM   #24
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Almost every Jeter in a SGC case has a gap. Even the SGC 98 that sold for $60000 had a gap.
Why would any card be in a SGC? That statement makes no sense to me.
Well I hope it comes back a PSA 9 but if not I still have a super nice PC card:-)


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Of course it don’t make sense you bought one.

It usually goes like this for this card

Bgs reject trim
Psa rejects for trim
Sgc let’s it go

Not sure why with this card but they favor it. So that’s “why” it makes sense to either a trimmer or a person stuck with a trimmed card to play hot potato
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Of course it don’t make sense you bought one.



It usually goes like this for this card



Bgs reject trim

Psa rejects for trim

Sgc let’s it go



Not sure why with this card but they favor it. So that’s “why” it makes sense to either a trimmer or a person stuck with a trimmed card to play hot potato
So you are saying that all 2200 SGC Jeter SPs are trimmed?
So what is the correct size? What are the signs of trimming? I will measure when I get the card in hand.
Have you had experience with SGC Jeter SP cards before? Or are you just going off what other people said?
Thanks for the help


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