I purchased Star cards on eBay that I think were trimmed - Page 2

mrclean08 · 04-14-2017, 02:06 PM

I sent in the cards to BGS. 10-day service took almost a month. Anyhow, the cards arrived today and I'm pretty happy that the cards are all authentic and none were trimmed.

Got five 9's and the rest of the bunch scored high on sub grades except for the centering that hurt those other five.

The lesson learned here was that vintage Star cards are cut in all different sizes as some of you pointed out on this thread.

mcgahee21nfl · 04-15-2017, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mrclean08

I sent in the cards to BGS. 10-day service took almost a month. Anyhow, the cards arrived today and I'm pretty happy that the cards are all authentic and none were trimmed.

Got five 9's and the rest of the bunch scored high on sub grades except for the centering that hurt those other five.

The lesson learned here was that vintage Star cards are cut in all different sizes as some of you pointed out on this thread.

Nice grades! Just wanted to point out there could be another lesson here... BGS has no clue what is authentic or not.

6celtics33 · 04-15-2017, 07:20 AM

Authentic is not the issue, trimming is. I've seen these cards get trimmed before and I've seen them in slabs being trimmed. The cards are oversized to start with so a would be piece of dog $@!? Trimmer would typically take cards like what is shown on the bottom row, and specifically #8 and #9 because they are scarce in high grade or with good centering and chop that left side down to where the card is 2.5 inches wide. But all you have to do is look for the red bleed opposite that left border on the back. If it's there, even if faint and only visible under a bright light, you're good to go.

mrclean08 · 04-15-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Authentic is not the issue, trimming is. I've seen these cards get trimmed before and I've seen them in slabs being trimmed. The cards are oversized to start with so a would be piece of dog $@!? Trimmer would typically take cards like what is shown on the bottom row, and specifically #8 and #9 because they are scarce in high grade or with good centering and chop that left side down to where the card is 2.5 inches wide. But all you have to do is look for the red bleed opposite that left border on the back. If it's there, even if faint and only visible under a bright light, you're good to go.

So do the Type II's have absolutely no bleed? Is that the main tell tale sign?

6celtics33 · 05-10-2019, 10:57 PM

No there are more signs differentiating type 2

myusasets · 05-11-2019, 02:54 AM

if you lay it on top of a 25c card from the same set and its smaller ; its a duck. in the old days doing flea markets and small shops i always carried a card in a 20cnt box to compare it to what was being offered. also checked for coloring. same crooks different times

cypher · 05-11-2019, 04:12 AM

Contact PWCC they can move these conserved copies for you.

jesperson6 · 05-11-2019, 09:59 AM

congrats on getting into Star. These were Jordan's first cards before fleer. They are iconic and a must have. Was going to comment before I saw you got them graded is that they look legit. Different sizes are common. I have all 10 as well. Congrats!

mrclean08 · 07-01-2019, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jesperson6

congrats on getting into Star. These were Jordan's first cards before fleer. They are iconic and a must have. Was going to comment before I saw you got them graded is that they look legit. Different sizes are common. I have all 10 as well. Congrats!

Thanks, since getting into Star a little over 2 years ago, I have every single Star issue which is approximately 1,384 cards give or take, minus two cards. The two I am still missing are the 1983-84 #44 Marques Johnson error card and the 1985 Lite All-Stars Jordan #4. (I have the #4A variation however.)

It's been a journey, but a fulfilling one at that.

04-14-2017, 02:06 PM	#26
mrclean08 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 107	I sent in the cards to BGS. 10-day service took almost a month. Anyhow, the cards arrived today and I'm pretty happy that the cards are all authentic and none were trimmed. Got five 9's and the rest of the bunch scored high on sub grades except for the centering that hurt those other five. The lesson learned here was that vintage Star cards are cut in all different sizes as some of you pointed out on this thread.

04-15-2017, 07:20 AM	#28
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,033	Authentic is not the issue, trimming is. I've seen these cards get trimmed before and I've seen them in slabs being trimmed. The cards are oversized to start with so a would be piece of dog $@!? Trimmer would typically take cards like what is shown on the bottom row, and specifically #8 and #9 because they are scarce in high grade or with good centering and chop that left side down to where the card is 2.5 inches wide. But all you have to do is look for the red bleed opposite that left border on the back. If it's there, even if faint and only visible under a bright light, you're good to go.

05-10-2019, 10:57 PM	#30
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,033	No there are more signs differentiating type 2

05-11-2019, 02:54 AM	#31
myusasets Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: texas Posts: 1,944 myusasets myusasets	if you lay it on top of a 25c card from the same set and its smaller ; its a duck. in the old days doing flea markets and small shops i always carried a card in a 20cnt box to compare it to what was being offered. also checked for coloring. same crooks different times

05-11-2019, 04:12 AM	#32
cypher Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 866	Contact PWCC they can move these conserved copies for you.

05-11-2019, 09:59 AM	#33
jesperson6 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 182	congrats on getting into Star. These were Jordan's first cards before fleer. They are iconic and a must have. Was going to comment before I saw you got them graded is that they look legit. Different sizes are common. I have all 10 as well. Congrats!