1951 Bowman Mantle with tape on front PSA?

nicepakryan · 05-19-2018, 07:10 PM

How will tape on front affect the grade? Will it have a qualifier or just knock it the grade down? I have not purchased this yet but thinking about it. Just trying to gage value. Thanks for the help.

ehp6737 · 05-19-2018, 07:42 PM

IMHO the authenticity of the card is questionable based on the pic of the back. The wear showing around the corners is too white. If you look at graded examples you will see the exposed wear should be more consistent with the greyish card stock. What you have is very consistent with most reprint examples ive seen. The tape can be added for effect, as that card will command thousands even in that condition, while not being scrutinized as much as people think oh it must be real...it has tape on it.....just my take.

With that said, to answer your question, assuming its an authentic example, I believe the tape would cause it to receive an altered/authentic designation, and not a number grade....atleast with PSA. Not sure how SCG would designate it.

I was just at a show today and was interested in a 1961 fleer Chamberlain rookie that looked sharp, had no flaws other than tape on the front, and it was graded as authentic/altered, so I passed.

CaptSpaulding · 05-19-2018, 08:35 PM

Cards with tape residue can grade a 1 at best at PSA. If the tape is still on the card it will come back as Authentic.

nicepakryan · 05-19-2018, 09:11 PM

Thanks for the comments. I’ve decided that I’m going to pass on this card.

nicepakryan · 05-19-2018, 10:55 PM

The seller successfully pulled the tape off without damaging the card. Now, I’m 75% sure that I won’t buy it! lol

ThoseBackPages · 05-19-2018, 11:17 PM

reprint for sure

Wyrm · 05-20-2018, 09:11 PM

If a seller sent me pics that tiny of a card that valuable, I would run, not walk, away from it.

NickM · 05-20-2018, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

Cards with tape residue can grade a 1 at best at PSA. If the tape is still on the card it will come back as Authentic.

Tape residue can get a 2 sometimes, especially if it's on the back.

vtgmsc · 05-21-2018, 06:43 AM

I have graded over 1000 cards through PSA. This card is 100% authentic. Would grade a 1. Very nice card BTW.

Peace, Mike

weave24 · 05-21-2018, 08:16 AM

Curious what the asking price was for it?

Bowman1951 · 05-21-2018, 10:09 AM

I would demand it be graded first with an agreed upon price if it comes back authentic/PSA 1.

nicepakryan · 05-21-2018, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weave24

Curious what the asking price was for it?

Not cheap!! $2200 for Mantle

or $3000 for Mantle and Mays

Bowman1951 · 05-21-2018, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicepakryan

Not cheap!! $2200 for Mantle

or $3000 for Mantle and Mays

This even confirms what I said about an agreement that it be graded FIRST.

rainmaker · 05-22-2018, 11:50 AM

you could buy a PSA 1 or nicer presenting authentic for 2000-2500. tape is probably the most undesirable defect on a card.

HawkFan70 · 05-22-2018, 05:02 PM

I agree. I'd rather have a card with a pinhole than tape. Both would be considered a PSA 1 I think.

nicepakryan · 06-06-2018, 07:07 PM

The Mantle came back a SGC 10. Also had a couple of nice 1955 Topps cards that I sent in with the Mantle. Will post pics when I receive.

ThoseBackPages · 06-08-2018, 04:23 PM

not horrible!

nicepakryan · 06-08-2018, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

not horrible!

Thanks! lol

dapro · 07-17-2018, 12:30 AM

So you bough it? I am thinking investing in a 51 mantle, but can't get myself to shell out thousands for an old beat up card.

05-19-2018, 07:10 PM	#1
nicepakryan Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,182	1951 Bowman Mantle with tape on front PSA? How will tape on front affect the grade? Will it have a qualifier or just knock it the grade down? I have not purchased this yet but thinking about it. Just trying to gage value. Thanks for the help. Attached Thumbnails

05-19-2018, 10:55 PM	#5
nicepakryan Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,182	The seller successfully pulled the tape off without damaging the card. Now, I’m 75% sure that I won’t buy it! lol Attached Thumbnails

05-19-2018, 11:17 PM	#6
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 82,886 ThoseBackPages	reprint for sure __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-20-2018, 09:11 PM	#7
Wyrm Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 229	If a seller sent me pics that tiny of a card that valuable, I would run, not walk, away from it. __________________ Trade folder: https://imgur.com/a/VA5dJ/embed?pub=true

05-21-2018, 06:43 AM	#9
vtgmsc Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 562	100% I have graded over 1000 cards through PSA. This card is 100% authentic. Would grade a 1. Very nice card BTW. Peace, Mike

05-19-2018, 07:42 PM	#2
ehp6737 Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 478	IMHO the authenticity of the card is questionable based on the pic of the back. The wear showing around the corners is too white. If you look at graded examples you will see the exposed wear should be more consistent with the greyish card stock. What you have is very consistent with most reprint examples ive seen. The tape can be added for effect, as that card will command thousands even in that condition, while not being scrutinized as much as people think oh it must be real...it has tape on it.....just my take. With that said, to answer your question, assuming its an authentic example, I believe the tape would cause it to receive an altered/authentic designation, and not a number grade....atleast with PSA. Not sure how SCG would designate it. I was just at a show today and was interested in a 1961 fleer Chamberlain rookie that looked sharp, had no flaws other than tape on the front, and it was graded as authentic/altered, so I passed.

05-19-2018, 08:35 PM	#3
CaptSpaulding Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,405	Cards with tape residue can grade a 1 at best at PSA. If the tape is still on the card it will come back as Authentic.

05-19-2018, 09:11 PM	#4
nicepakryan Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,182	Thanks for the comments. I’ve decided that I’m going to pass on this card.

05-21-2018, 08:16 AM	#10
weave24 Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 192 weave24	Curious what the asking price was for it?

05-21-2018, 10:09 AM	#11
Bowman1951 Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Boston 'Burbs Posts: 4,694 djblitz Bowman1951	I would demand it be graded first with an agreed upon price if it comes back authentic/PSA 1.

05-22-2018, 11:50 AM	#14
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,798 thewescoast	you could buy a PSA 1 or nicer presenting authentic for 2000-2500. tape is probably the most undesirable defect on a card. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

05-22-2018, 05:02 PM	#15
HawkFan70 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 5	I agree. I'd rather have a card with a pinhole than tape. Both would be considered a PSA 1 I think.

06-06-2018, 07:07 PM	#16
nicepakryan Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,182	The Mantle came back a SGC 10. Also had a couple of nice 1955 Topps cards that I sent in with the Mantle. Will post pics when I receive. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by nicepakryan; 06-06-2018 at 07:09 PM.

06-08-2018, 04:23 PM	#17
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07-17-2018, 12:30 AM	#19
dapro Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,891 Dragonshop007	So you bough it? I am thinking investing in a 51 mantle, but can't get myself to shell out thousands for an old beat up card. __________________ Collecting rookie and auto of HOFer's and future HOFer's. PC: Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Anthony Davis,Mike Trout, John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins https://www.flickr.com/photos/156455278@N06/collections/72157666436269628/

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