Official "How Bad is the Eastern Conference" Thread - Page 3

clipperboy24 · 11-20-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

And so far he's probably the conference's MVP if it were to end today.

He's fine.

For the regular season maybe, but come playoffs I think the Lakers will be in a world of hurt and possibly a first round exit. That’s where the west eats teams up, it’s not just the regular season

goldkobe · 11-20-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rhigh2390

We'll see if he is in the Finals this year. This Laker team is much better than last years Cavs so he should make it right?

The narrative has never been that he only puts up the stats that he does because he's in the East. It's always been he makes it as far as he does because he's in the East. And it's funny that the MVP would play on a 9-7 team and the 8 spot in the West, if it were to end today. I think they will be the #2 or #3 seed at the end though.

If the MVP race ended today, I'd go Giannis. Was Steph before his injury.

agree, if the MVP race ended today. #1. Giannis #2. Steph #3. Kawhi

drobfan8 · 11-20-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

And so far he's probably the conference's MVP if it were to end today.

He's fine.

You can't be serious?

MVP's don't normally come from the 8th seed and have a 6 and 5 record vs the Conference.

Steph was murdering the League until he went down and AD has his team in a better position and can beat the Spurs handily. Unlike LeBron.

Jokic deserves consideration too.

That 51 point game helped, that loss the night before where Bron chucked it in during the 3rd qtr didn't.

bdrr · 12-03-2018, 03:17 AM

In the December version of "the East is real real bad"

11 wins puts you comfortably in the 7/8 seed in the East, with a 2 game lead in your playoff spot.

11 wins puts you . . . 14th in the West.

jcardstore · 12-03-2018, 06:39 AM

We get it, you think the east sucks but does anyone really care? Or are you just going to keep bumping your threads?

PKIPP · 12-03-2018, 08:19 AM

I don't really care if the East is bad.. My Pistons didnt seem to believe that when they slapped the Warriors around Saturday night.

realreodeal · 12-03-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bdrr

In the December version of "the East is real real bad"

11 wins puts you comfortably in the 7/8 seed in the East, with a 2 game lead in your playoff spot.

11 wins puts you . . . 14th in the West.

11 wins in the West puts you about 4 games out of 1st. 11 wins in the East puts you 8 games out of 1st.

yiguiri2002 · 12-03-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by realreodeal

11 wins in the West puts you about 4 games out of 1st. 11 wins in the East pits you 8 games out of 1st.

Great reply. It's all about perspective and people can use different stats to back their own claim.

As of now, there are 10 Western Conference teams with a positive SRS and only 7 from the East. But 2 of the top 3 are from the East as well as 3 of the top 6 and 5 of the top 10.

They are pretty close at the the top but the middle tier West teams are better than their East counterparts.

tjforce · 12-03-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bdrr

In the December version of "the East is real real bad"

11 wins puts you comfortably in the 7/8 seed in the East, with a 2 game lead in your playoff spot.

11 wins puts you . . . 14th in the West.

So the 7th place team in the West has 11 wins.

yiguiri2002 · 12-03-2018, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

So the 7th place team in the West has 11 wins.

Actually it's the 8th team in the West. The 8th team in the East, however, has...11 wins.

the27guy · 12-03-2018, 11:20 AM

For me, it’s always fun to look at the conferences from a high level. It’s important because you just want to see the best 16 teams playing in the league in the playoffs.

But the real question is, what is the non-confrence record? Last I looked, the West was winning over 60% of those games. That imbalance is pretty staggering. Hopefully it’s closer now. Anybody know the answer at this point?

yiguiri2002 · 12-03-2018, 11:30 AM

It's 52-75. Still pretty bad.

But if you take the top teams in the East (Raptors, Bucks, 76ers, Celtics) it's 24-11. The problem has been that the East has 3 terrible teams that have gone 3-22 against the West while the West only has 1 and it's gone 1-8 against the East. You take all those 4 out and it's much closer at 41-52.

drobfan8 · 12-03-2018, 04:49 PM

Lol at the East fans getting all butthurt.

It's a crazy advantage to get to play scrub teams like Atl and the rest in the East 4 times.

The West has also had Steph injured who was the MVP for mine and they were dominating and have since come back to the pack.

In the West you can only count PHO as a win, the rest of the teams are a tough out. Brutal.

tjforce · 12-03-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

It's 52-75. Still pretty bad.

But if you take the top teams in the East (Raptors, Bucks, 76ers, Celtics) it's 24-11. The problem has been that the East has 3 terrible teams that have gone 3-22 against the West while the West only has 1 and it's gone 1-8 against the East. You take all those 4 out and it's much closer at 41-52.

This pretty much goes with the thought that the East has some really bad teams at the bottom but the top has been more competitive this year than in years past.

RogerGodahell · 12-03-2018, 06:03 PM

Celtics have won more championships then anyone and they're from the East. I guess you could say the East dominated in the 60's

LC2nine10 · 12-03-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Celtics have won more championships then anyone and they're from the East. I guess you could say the East dominated in the 60's

So hafta go pre merger?
Way to go east coast.

RogerGodahell · 12-03-2018, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

So hafta go pre merger?
Way to go east coast.

We all know the West has fine looking women and good weather. I consider that an unfair advantage.

LC2nine10 · 12-03-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

We all know the West has fine looking women and good weather. I consider that an unfair advantage.

You're telling me, moving to the Carolinas was harsh.

RogerGodahell · 12-03-2018, 07:20 PM

As silly as it sounds i think there's some truth to it. I mean if you were a multi millionaire where would you want to live? Somewhere cold half the year or somewhere where the weather is always nice?

bdrr · 12-13-2018, 04:03 PM

As of the morning of 12/13 the 8th place team in the East (Orlando @ 12-15) has a worse record than the 14th place team in the West (Houston @ 12-14). That's a playoff team.

Consider that for a moment.

tjforce · 12-13-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrr

As of the morning of 12/13 the 8th place team in the East (Orlando @ 12-15) has a worse record than the 14th place team in the West (Houston @ 12-14). That's a playoff team.

Consider that for a moment.

Very true.....

But also consider that the best team in the east (Toronto ) just gobsmacked the best team in the west (Golden state) despite missing their best player. In Oakland.

drobfan8 · 12-13-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrr

As of the morning of 12/13 the 8th place team in the East (Orlando @ 12-15) has a worse record than the 14th place team in the West (Houston @ 12-14). That's a playoff team.

Consider that for a moment.

Yup it's a disgrace.

After seed 5 (Boston) the East is atrocious and none of those teams would sniff a Playoff spot out West.

Have a look at 4 of the bottom 5 out West. They're all better than Detroit who is a 6th seed.

It's great that TOR is playing their best basketball in December, but I doubt we're calling them the best NBA team come June/July. Although I love the mix they have right now.

drobfan8 · 12-13-2018, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Very true.....

But also consider that the best team in the east (Toronto ) just gobsmacked the best team in the west (Golden state) despite missing their best player. In Oakland.

Yeah the East is amazing because of that one game.

GS had an off night. TOR played terrific and are clearly well coached.

I know you get upset when people talk poorly about the East, but overall, it stinks.

Hey at least they should get 11 of the top 12 picks next NBA draft.

the27guy · 12-13-2018, 04:37 PM

All that matters is the head to head. Anyone who what the east vs west record is to date?

tjforce · 12-13-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Yeah the East is amazing because of that one game.

GS had an off night. TOR played terrific and are clearly well coached.

I know you get upset when people talk poorly about the East, but overall, it stinks.

Hey at least they should get 11 of the top 12 picks next NBA draft.

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Originally Posted by the27guy

All that matters is the head to head. Anyone who what the east vs west record is to date?

I agree with you guys that the west is better.

I just think degree to which it’s better may be overstated by some.

12-03-2018, 03:17 AM	#54
bdrr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington, DC but Los Angeles at heart. Posts: 13,313	In the December version of "the East is real real bad" 11 wins puts you comfortably in the 7/8 seed in the East, with a 2 game lead in your playoff spot. 11 wins puts you . . . 14th in the West. __________________ ~~I am the Lauri Markkanen hype machine.~~ ~~Haha. Kill me.~~ WHAT NOW, B*****S, LAURI 4EVA

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12-03-2018, 08:19 AM	#56
PKIPP Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,926	I don't really care if the East is bad.. My Pistons didnt seem to believe that when they slapped the Warriors around Saturday night. __________________ i collect Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers, Carmelo Anthony, Donovan Mitchell, Detroit Pistons Follow me on IG: Cardboard_vault

12-03-2018, 11:20 AM	#61
the27guy Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 14,658 the27guy the27guy	For me, it’s always fun to look at the conferences from a high level. It’s important because you just want to see the best 16 teams playing in the league in the playoffs. But the real question is, what is the non-confrence record? Last I looked, the West was winning over 60% of those games. That imbalance is pretty staggering. Hopefully it’s closer now. Anybody know the answer at this point? __________________ @thereal27guy Founder of Basketball Card Fanatic Magazine

12-03-2018, 11:30 AM	#62
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 11,136 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	It's 52-75. Still pretty bad. But if you take the top teams in the East (Raptors, Bucks, 76ers, Celtics) it's 24-11. The problem has been that the East has 3 terrible teams that have gone 3-22 against the West while the West only has 1 and it's gone 1-8 against the East. You take all those 4 out and it's much closer at 41-52. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,683 drobfan8 drobfan8	Lol at the East fans getting all butthurt. It's a crazy advantage to get to play scrub teams like Atl and the rest in the East 4 times. The West has also had Steph injured who was the MVP for mine and they were dominating and have since come back to the pack. In the West you can only count PHO as a win, the rest of the teams are a tough out. Brutal. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

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RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	Celtics have won more championships then anyone and they're from the East. I guess you could say the East dominated in the 60's

12-03-2018, 07:20 PM	#69
RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	As silly as it sounds i think there's some truth to it. I mean if you were a multi millionaire where would you want to live? Somewhere cold half the year or somewhere where the weather is always nice?

12-13-2018, 04:03 PM	#70
bdrr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington, DC but Los Angeles at heart. Posts: 13,313	As of the morning of 12/13 the 8th place team in the East (Orlando @ 12-15) has a worse record than the 14th place team in the West (Houston @ 12-14). That's a playoff team. Consider that for a moment. __________________ ~~I am the Lauri Markkanen hype machine.~~ ~~Haha. Kill me.~~ WHAT NOW, B*****S, LAURI 4EVA

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