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Old 05-15-2018, 03:41 PM   #1101
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"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated." –Donald Trump on his performance with poorly educated voters who helped him win the Nevada Caucus, Feb. 23, 2016
This quote is taken out of context when you only present a part of it. You left out the part where he said:

"We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated .... "

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Old 05-16-2018, 11:49 AM   #1102
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Boy you are ignorant. Once again, pick up a book and educate yourself.
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Seriously, your arguments are pathetic. Even the laziest researcher can go to google and answer these questions for themselves. All you are doing is proving that you truly are an "uneducated Trump Supporter."
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Only reason why he was part of this conversation is because some idiot was calling him an "extremist anti-American"
It doesn't surprise me that these are the type of people that support anti-American kneelers who have no respect for America. They don't have respect for anyone or anything.
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Old 05-16-2018, 06:05 PM   #1103
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It doesn't surprise me that these are the type of people that support anti-American kneelers who have no respect for America. They don't have respect for anyone or anything.
Tell you what, pick up a rifle in defense of this Nation and earn Veteran status and then you can talk about me not having any respect for America. It's easy for people like you who didn't sacrifice anything to run your mouth. My service as well as my brothers in arms bought you that right. It's a shame that military service isn't a requirement for citizenship. Enjoy the freedoms you did nothing to earn. Please don't try to sell me that your either current or former military. Servicemen can tell.

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Tell you what, pick up a rifle in defense of this Nation and earn Veteran status and then you can talk about me not having any respect for America. It's easy for people like you who didn't sacrifice anything to run your mouth. My service as well as my brothers in arms bought you that right. It's a shame that military service isn't a requirement for citizenship. Enjoy the freedoms you did nothing to earn. Please don't try to sell me that your either current or former military. Servicemen can tell.
I have no clue about your past nor do I care. All I can see is your actions of today and they are pretty poor.
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Old 05-16-2018, 06:46 PM   #1105
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I have no clue about your past nor do I care. All I can see is your actions of today and they are pretty poor.
Actions speak louder then words. I notice you are from Seattle. Since you are the epitome of Patriotism, I can personally take you to the local Army Recruiting Center. I'd be impress if you would sacrifice at least two years of your life to this Nation. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone who is GI Joe behind the computer and Strawberry Shortcake outside his mother's basement.
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Actions speak louder then words. I notice you are from Seattle. Since you are the epitome of Patriotism, I can personally take you to the local Army Recruiting Center. I'd be impress if you would sacrifice at least two years of your life to this Nation. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone who is GI Joe behind the computer and Strawberry Shortcake outside his mother's basement.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:39 PM   #1107
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Actions speak louder then words. I notice you are from Seattle. Since you are the epitome of Patriotism, I can personally take you to the local Army Recruiting Center. I'd be impress if you would sacrifice at least two years of your life to this Nation. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone who is GI Joe behind the computer and Strawberry Shortcake outside his mother's basement.
He's all bark and no bite. He will never follow through on any of the hollow words he types. He likes to hide behind his keyboard but I guarantee that he's just a lonely guy who trolls around the internet because people give him the attention that he desperately needs.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:48 PM   #1108
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He's all bark and no bite. He will never follow through on any of the hollow words he types. He likes to hide behind his keyboard but I guarantee that he's just a lonely guy who trolls around the internet because people give him the attention that he desperately needs.
Ya right. I'll go a step further. I'll go with ANYONE down to the Army Recruiting Center. If I am not what I say I am, I'll enlist alongside you. How about you jcardstore? Let's use common sense here people. I'm not going to fly cross country to prove a point. But anyone in the Pacific North West who wants to call BS, let's do it.
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He's all bark and no bite. He will never follow through on any of the hollow words he types. He likes to hide behind his keyboard but I guarantee that he's just a lonely guy who trolls around the internet because people give him the attention that he desperately needs.
Sounds like you're talking about yourself, lol. You're getting in to that weird stalker level. Just put me on ignore and I'll do the same. No need for us to associate on this site.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:00 AM   #1110
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Tell you what, pick up a rifle in defense of this Nation and earn Veteran status and then you can talk about me not having any respect for America. It's easy for people like you who didn't sacrifice anything to run your mouth. My service as well as my brothers in arms bought you that right. It's a shame that military service isn't a requirement for citizenship. Enjoy the freedoms you did nothing to earn. Please don't try to sell me that your either current or former military. Servicemen can tell.
Yes servicemen can tell and speaking as a former serviceman (Machinist Mate, 3rd Class, United States Navy) who knows a lot of servicemen, I never met one who thought military service should be a requirement for citizenship.

One of the many things that makes this country so great is that civilians control the military, not vice-versa (keeping in mind, of course, that members of the military also have a say alongside the civilians). This idea may seem pretty obvious to us but at the time our great nation was founded, it was rather novel and groundbreaking.

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Old 05-17-2018, 07:02 AM   #1111
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Yes servicemen can tell and speaking as a former serviceman (Machinist Mate, 3rd Class, United States Navy) who knows a lot of servicemen, I never met one who thought military service should be a requirement for citizenship.

One of the many things that makes this country so great is that civilians control the military, not vice-versa (keeping in mind, of course, that members of the military also have a say alongside the civilians). This idea may seem pretty obvious to us but at the time our great nation was founded, it was rather novel and groundbreaking.
Your argument is well stated. In regards to military service being a requirement, I would refer to that cute slogan "MAGA." It's gets thrown around a lot. I'm not pointing at you directly. Everyone needs to ask themselves "What did I really do to Make America Great Again?" Paid your taxes? That has always been a part of life. Boycott the NFL? Pathetic. Military Service proves that you believe in the ideals that this country was built on and that you are willing to put your life on the line to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans. Civilians don't understand that. They see players take a knee in peaceful protest, an act protected by the Constitution, and are outraged. Then you have others calling for a Civil War should Trump be impeached. Let's not pretend that it hasn't been said. I don't know any service member, Active or Retired, who would even talk about taking arms against fellow Americans. Why is that?
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What's it like to have TOD; Trump Obsession Disorder?
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Your argument is well stated. In regards to military service being a requirement, I would refer to that cute slogan "MAGA." It's gets thrown around a lot. I'm not pointing at you directly. Everyone needs to ask themselves "What did I really do to Make America Great Again?" Paid your taxes? That has always been a part of life. Boycott the NFL? Pathetic. Military Service proves that you believe in the ideals that this country was built on and that you are willing to put your life on the line to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans. Civilians don't understand that. They see players take a knee in peaceful protest, an act protected by the Constitution, and are outraged. Then you have others calling for a Civil War should Trump be impeached. Let's not pretend that it hasn't been said. I don't know any service member, Active or Retired, who would even talk about taking arms against fellow Americans. Why is that?
You would think someone with your vast knowledge of America and the Constitution would know that our Constitutional rights protect us from the government and has nothing to do with the private sector.
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Your argument is well stated. In regards to military service being a requirement, I would refer to that cute slogan "MAGA." It's gets thrown around a lot. I'm not pointing at you directly. Everyone needs to ask themselves "What did I really do to Make America Great Again?" Paid your taxes? That has always been a part of life. Boycott the NFL? Pathetic. Military Service proves that you believe in the ideals that this country was built on and that you are willing to put your life on the line to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans. Civilians don't understand that. They see players take a knee in peaceful protest, an act protected by the Constitution, and are outraged. Then you have others calling for a Civil War should Trump be impeached. Let's not pretend that it hasn't been said. I don't know any service member, Active or Retired, who would even talk about taking arms against fellow Americans. Why is that?

That doesn't really prove that at all. Honestly those that join the police departments around the country are showing it more. Only a small percentage of military actually partake in actions where their "life is on the line." The overwhelming majority of military members never even leave the States during their military careers. And there are many military personnel that do not join the military because they believe in the ideals of the country. A good percentage join because they didn't get into college or decided not to go to college but rather learn a certain skill set while in the military. Others join purely for the money and benefits that come with being in the military as well as after they are finished with their career
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Your argument is well stated. In regards to military service being a requirement, I would refer to that cute slogan "MAGA." It's gets thrown around a lot. I'm not pointing at you directly. Everyone needs to ask themselves "What did I really do to Make America Great Again?" Paid your taxes? That has always been a part of life. Boycott the NFL? Pathetic. Military Service proves that you believe in the ideals that this country was built on and that you are willing to put your life on the line to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans. Civilians don't understand that.
I think the vast majority of civilians understand and appreciate the freedoms they have and are grateful to the men and women who serve in the military.

I agree that military service shows you likely believe in the ideals this country was built on, but that does not mean that people who never served don't believe in those ideals as well. Nor does it mean they somehow have less of a right to speak their mind on the issues which face our nation.
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Just because an act is Constitutionally protected does not mean it is immune from criticism. Also, just because an act is Constitutionally protected does not mean you can just do it anytime you want in any place you want.

Employers have a right to delegate workplace codes, including restrictions on freedom of speech in the workplace. I think this particular issue is a bit overblown, but I do think there is a chance the next CBA will prohibit kneeling. The league will have to make some sort of concession, but I don't see it as something that most players would fight to keep.
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Fair enough, but let's also not pretend that it hasn't been said by idiots on both sides of the aisle.
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I think you mean PESD: Post Election Stress Disorder

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I think you mean PESD: Post Election Stress Disorder

MAGA dukey!
Was just waiting for someone to pull the Hillary cop-out. Congrats, that would be you.
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I think the vast majority of civilians understand and appreciate the freedoms they have and are grateful to the men and women who serve in the military.

I agree that military service shows you likely believe in the ideals this country was built on, but that does not mean that people who never served don't believe in those ideals as well. Nor does it mean they somehow have less of a right to speak their mind on the issues which face our nation.
Just because an act is Constitutionally protected does not mean it is immune from criticism. Also, just because an act is Constitutionally protected does not mean you can just do it anytime you want in any place you want.

Employers have a right to delegate workplace codes, including restrictions on freedom of speech in the workplace. I think this particular issue is a bit overblown, but I do think there is a chance the next CBA will prohibit kneeling. The league will have to make some sort of concession, but I don't see it as something that most players would fight to keep.
Fair enough, but let's also not pretend that it hasn't been said by idiots on both sides of the aisle.
I don't care what political affiliation you are, any calls for a Civil War would make you a traitor. No American should be taking up arms against another American.
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Me thinks you most certainly do.
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My only obsession with Trump is that you have an idiot in charge of our armed forces who doesn't have the temperament to be in that position. He's going to get my Army friends killed. So ya, I have a vested interest in what he does. But you wouldn't know about that from the safety of your home. Let others make the sacrifice and take the risks.
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Me thinks you most certainly do.
That's cute how you want to be part of the discussion. Welcome.
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My only obsession with Trump is that you have an idiot in charge of our armed forces who doesn't have the temperament to be in that position. He's going to get my Army friends killed. So ya, I have a vested interest in what he does. But you wouldn't know about that from the safety of your home. Let others make the sacrifice and take the risks.
Military casualties can be measured in a wide variety of ways. For example, you can measure casualties as a result of combat, you can measure any type of casualties taking place in a war zone, or you can measure total casualties which would include things like non-combat related accidents (which have been occurring far, far too frequently over the past 5 years). Having said that....

To put things in perspective, roughly 2,500 servicemen died in Iraq and Afghanistan under Obama. In Trump’s only full year in office, 33 servicemen died in combat.

This is not meant to criticize Obama as he inherited 2 wars at their height and did a really good job drawing them down. Nevertheless, there exists no evidence at this point that servicemen are in any sort of heightened risk under Trump.
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To all you NFL boycotters, in case you didn't already know, JJ Watts has offered to pay for the funerals for those who were murdered at the Santa Fe High School shooting. Yes, he was not one of the players who were kneeling. But he is still an NFL player. If you are determined to hurt them in their pocket books, he's going to be affected as well. I'll concede that the NFL has its share of thug players, but there are many more out there doing good for their community. Keep that in mind when your outrage blinds you from the big picture.
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