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Old 05-07-2018, 03:50 PM   #226
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If I pulled it, no way in hell would I sell it here in the States. Too many headaches and scammers. I'd sell only internationally to a reputable Japanese Collector who'd appreciate it. And I would get a trip to Japan out of it.
I would not go that far.

After agreeing on the highest price I can get, I would just ask them to drop that large sum into my mortgage directly. I need to pay down my house anyway so why not let Ohtani take a big chunk. That is after we sign legal docs on iron clad no return policy. you buy it as is and never contact me again regarding that card or the $ you paid me for it.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:13 PM   #227
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I just have this weird feeling it's in retail. Does retail have Super odd's? Really haven't been paying attention since I will not be opening any this year.
Is this new ? I always thought super fractors were exclusive to hobby and jumbo ?
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:19 PM   #228
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nevermind , I just seen a previous post . the only ones in retail are green . I just spent 300 on blasters at target . didn't expect them to have that much on a Monday. maybe I will hit a nice parallel .

I only saved 17 bucks and change on the red card ......... geez

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Old 05-07-2018, 06:10 PM   #229
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Japan is a fun place. Little buildings with a bar on each floor, like 7-10 of them, all different, are a hoot. The shopping for collectibles is outstanding too.
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:19 AM   #230
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if he sold for less he's an idiot i finished 2nd in that 1st auction and he never reached out or responded
Sold last night via auction. Nice pay day ,but that first flub of a BIN/BO sale cost him.

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Old 05-08-2018, 09:16 AM   #231
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Sold last night via auction. Nice pay day ,but that first flub of a BIN/BO sale cost him.

2018 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Shohei Ohtani Angels RC Rookie AUTO 1/5
$30k for Red - can we use this to set base auto price w/ratios or are we still in crazy world with these cards?
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:24 AM   #232
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$30k for Red - can we use this to set base auto price w/ratios or are we still in crazy world with these cards?
I think that's about on point. Anotners.at 22k with 3 days left. Ohtani stuff gonna go look like bitcoin charts all season.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:30 AM   #233
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$30k for Red - can we use this to set base auto price w/ratios or are we still in crazy world with these cards?
If i'm not mistaken, this Red Auto Ohtani 1/5 was originally purchased on ebay for $55,400 and then he sent to Probstein to sell for $30,300.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:31 AM   #234
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If i'm not mistaken, this Red Auto Ohtani 1/5 was originally purchased on ebay for $55,400 and then he sent to Probstein to sell for $30,300.
Did it sell both times via Probstein?
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Did it sell both times via Probstein?


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Old 05-08-2018, 09:35 AM   #236
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K

Cause that would be horrible on top of how the card lost 20K in value already.
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I assumed the 55k auction didn't go through. Listing it less than a week later hoping for more with a few more on the market and the newness smell worn off doesnt make sense.
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Old 05-08-2018, 10:24 AM   #238
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I assumed the 55k auction didn't go through. Listing it less than a week later hoping for more with a few more on the market and the newness smell worn off doesnt make sense.
I seriously doubt the seller was "hoping for more". The first winning bidder was obviously an NPB who never had any intention of paying for the card. Second time around seller is just hoping to get anywhere close to the original sale number, and for the sale to finally go through...
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I seriously doubt the seller was "hoping for more". The first winning bidder was obviously an NPB who never had any intention of paying for the card. Second time around seller is just hoping to get anywhere close to the original sale number, and for the sale to finally go through...
Yea, that's my point. I think they were struggling moving it and dumped it off to Probestein

I do think the 30k sale is legit.
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Old 05-08-2018, 01:21 PM   #240
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So, 2 reds so far, 3 to go?
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:26 PM   #241
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if he sold for less he's an idiot i finished 2nd in that 1st auction and he never reached out or responded
I read this article (which it is on the internet so it must be true) but according to this article the top 5 bidders all refused to pay when asked.
http://lwos.life/2018/05/01/ohtanis-...baseball-card/


So the seller never reached out to you after the first bidder didn't pay? Here is an exert from the article where the author says this (Paragraph four)

"An unnumbered based auto of Ohtani is going for almost $1,700 a piece and the red refractor /5 sold for $55,400 on eBay last week. (However, the five highest bidders all backed out after they were asked to pay). Ohtani’s atomic refractor /100 is going for $18,000 or so"
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:48 PM   #242
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I read this article (which it is on the internet so it must be true) but according to this article the top 5 bidders all refused to pay when asked.
http://lwos.life/2018/05/01/ohtanis-...baseball-card/


So the seller never reached out to you after the first bidder didn't pay? Here is an exert from the article where the author says this (Paragraph four)

"An unnumbered based auto of Ohtani is going for almost $1,700 a piece and the red refractor /5 sold for $55,400 on eBay last week. (However, the five highest bidders all backed out after they were asked to pay). Ohtani’s atomic refractor /100 is going for $18,000 or so"
Odd that 5 people would waste their time and someone else's time making $50k+ bids. I believe it. I just don't understand it.

Not like they were 5 (0) feedback bidders either.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:06 PM   #243
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Shills to promote for the next auction?

Could one just take it national and drop it off at PSA for grading?

Then shop it around for interested dealers?

I'd take $20K cash in hand (or some vintage trade) over ebay, paypal, returns, and all that mess that could ensue...
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:23 PM   #244
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Odd that 5 people would waste their time and someone else's time making $50k+ bids. I believe it. I just don't understand it.

Not like they were 5 (0) feedback bidders either.
Yeah. I would have thought someone would have paid. And According to Doucet he was willing and ready to drop over 50K had the seller have reached out to him (Since he was the second highest bidder). Not sure what to make of it.

As for the shilling. not sure, I imagine some bids were shills but if Doucet says he was the second highest bidder and he says it was a legit bid, then why was it not sold to him?

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Old 05-08-2018, 04:37 PM   #245
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Yeah. I would have thought someone would have paid. And According to Doucet he was willing and ready to drop over 50K had the seller have reached out to him (Since he was the second highest bidder). Not sure what to make of it.

As for the shilling. not sure, I imagine some bids were shills but if Doucet says he was the second highest bidder and he says it was a legit bid, then why was it not sold to him?
If I was bidder #4 and they said hey. You're lucky day. 3 non payers ahead of you. It's yours if you want it. I'd probably pull out to lol
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:43 PM   #246
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If I was bidder #4 and they said hey. You're lucky day. 3 non payers ahead of you. It's yours if you want it. I'd probably pull out to lol

LOL, Totally agree with this if I was number four on the list, heck even 3 would have me weary. Considering there were 4 separate bidders over 55K though, interesting that NObody was willing. Just a little weird.

Then again, I would have a hard time paying even 1/25 of that for a card.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:46 PM   #247
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Yeah. I would have thought someone would have paid. And According to Doucet he was willing and ready to drop over 50K had the seller have reached out to him (Since he was the second highest bidder). Not sure what to make of it.

As for the shilling. not sure, I imagine some bids were shills but if Doucet says he was the second highest bidder and he says it was a legit bid, then why was it not sold to him?
If he was willing, then he could have reached out to the seller.

People like to talk, like to brag, but at the end of the day, its all an act.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:17 PM   #248
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One benefit to buying through an auction is that you donít have to pay your max, only one bid increment more than what the 2nd personís max is. (Which could be significantly lower than yours.)

In this case, the non-paying bidder has flushed out your max bid. And the way eBay works you still have to pay your max. (When you should only have to pay one bid above the 3rd place bidder, which is what youíd pay if the auction was straight.)

Second chance offers are a bad deal for buyers.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:24 PM   #249
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One benefit to buying through an auction is that you don’t have to pay your max, only one bid increment more than what the 2nd person’s max is. (Which could be significantly lower than yours.)

In this case, the non-paying bidder has flushed out your max bid. And the way eBay works you still have to pay your max. (When you should only have to pay one bid above the 3rd place bidder, which is what you’d pay if the auction was straight.)

Second chance offers are a bad deal for buyers.

I would agree with this but in this case the top 4 bids were all within $100 of each other. Top bid was 55,400K fourth bid was 55,000. I imagine if the seller went down the line to the fourth bidder and they accepted then the seller could easily have refunded the fourth place winner $400 to hit the next increment up and still came out waaaaay ahead.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:45 PM   #250
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So I just got $800 in blowout store credit. I did $500 in retail and got MURDERED. I think 3 maybe 4 paper autos, no green autos at all


So should I just buy 2 Jumbo and 1 Hobby with my credit and make the Ohtani super odds better for the remaining product lol?
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