Scammed Again by Breaker. What do I do?

lesternatty · 03-06-2018, 10:58 PM

I've now been scammed twice by two different eBay breakers in the past two weeks. They send out the the base and junk hits, but I got two very nice cards and never received either of them from either breaker. This is becoming rampant on eBay. They will send out the worthless cards, but if you get a nice hit you likely won't receive the card. I spend hundreds each months on breaks, and when I finally get a couple nice hits both are just magically lost in the mail. No update on tracking info, just shown that the label was created. I will end up getting a $15 refund for a $300 card. This is so frustrating and I am never doing a break again. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm debating taking this breaker to court, I don't care how much the lawyer fees cost.

jasonhopkins · 03-06-2018, 11:00 PM

I've decided to only deal with the breakers here at BO. So far they all have been legit.

myerscards · 03-06-2018, 11:08 PM

Who are the Breakers?

natbornkiller · 03-06-2018, 11:14 PM

stop buying breaks of ebay

Bruvydsb · 03-06-2018, 11:19 PM

I join Ebay breaks all the time (for years) and never an issue. I'm just very picky who I break with. Must have HUGE flawless feedback for starters.

That all being said, who scammed you???

lesternatty · 03-06-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

stop buying breaks of ebay

I will never buy a break on eBay again. I talked with 6 different customer support reps on eBay before I reached a manager today. I was on the phone 3 hours tonight. I explained to him thoroughly how breaks work and how buyers are being scammed. He was actually very interested and concerned. Breaks might be getting shutdown on eBay. They are investigating and I will receive a call tomorrow from the manager.

Dacubs · 03-06-2018, 11:36 PM

and yet, you won't name the breaker.....

lesternatty · 03-06-2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dacubs

and yet, you won't name the breaker.....

SwftyServe

The Accountant · 03-06-2018, 11:53 PM

its too easy to scam people. you arent techinically guaranteed anything... its a "bonus". Sorry OP lots of scumbags out there. Can't break with any average joe

lesternatty · 03-07-2018, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Accountant

its too easy to scam people. you arent techinically guaranteed anything... its a "bonus". Sorry OP lots of scumbags out there. Can't break with any average joe

Yeah I gave the first breaker the benefit of the doubt on the Kamara 1/1. But, it's just not possible that only the expensive cards are lost. I always receive the base no problem. I just don't understand why they scam? 90% of the time I don't hit anything big, so you'd think they would want their buyers to get a few good cards every now and then so they come back for more business. But, I guess the greed is just too big. Some of the shadiest people are in sports memorabilia. It's really weird. Karma is a bitch I can tell you that much.

knownas2letters · 03-07-2018, 12:11 AM

That really sucks man, always some sketch in the card game.

Crzy4phins · 03-07-2018, 07:00 AM

These scammers give us Ebay breakers a bad name. I hate scammers. I run an Ebay break once a month and I've never had any complaints aside from the usual "I misread the listing and thought I was getting 5 boxes of cards can I get a refund" BS. I really hate that there are dishonest breakers out there. I do the breaks just for fun. I very rarely make any money after supplies so they just ruin the enjoyment. That's my rant. Sorry this has happened to you.

shrevecity · 03-07-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lesternatty

I will never buy a break on eBay again. I talked with 6 different customer support reps on eBay before I reached a manager today. I was on the phone 3 hours tonight. I explained to him thoroughly how breaks work and how buyers are being scammed. He was actually very interested and concerned. Breaks might be getting shutdown on eBay. They are investigating and I will receive a call tomorrow from the manager.

Breaks have always been against Ebay rules, but they are a cash cow for Ebay so its doubtful they will ever do anything.I doubt you hear anything from a manager on Ebay. 9 times out of 10 if they say they will call back they don't.

Ebay has actually moved them from the banned list to restricted.

https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...ay-raffle.html

"Box breaks" or similar trading card listings are allowed as long as you follow these rules:

Don't call out a chance to win a specific card of significant monetary or collectible value

You must offer a full refund if the box doesn't contain the certain team or player the buyer purchased.

AnthonyCorona · 03-07-2018, 07:37 AM

Very sorry to hear this, it's an awful situation. I buy into breaks from two eBay breakers who have both sent me my best hits I've had. Twice here on BO I've purchased breaks and of course those went flawlessly. I hope this works out, only advice I can give is find a good 1-4 breakers and stick with them, I know it's tempting but I've stopped venturing out much further than who I know is good

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Dobber2330 · 03-07-2018, 07:42 AM

Leave negative feedback on Ebay for both bad breakers???

hockeyguyrich · 03-07-2018, 07:46 AM

This should have happened ^^^^^^^^^

shrevecity · 03-07-2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dobber2330

Leave negative feedback on Ebay for both bad breakers???

That and IF you really did not get what you won open a NAD case against the seller

shrevecity · 03-07-2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lesternatty

SwftyServe

THis user does not exist. The I is missing SwiftyServe

He does have a lot of negs, but still over 99%

Why do I have a feeling there is more to this story?

hockeyguyrich · 03-07-2018, 07:48 AM

I wouldn't leave feedback until break is complete and cards received because if they start getting negatives they will magically find the cards

Earlsnake07 · 03-07-2018, 08:08 AM

You named one of the breakers, but not the other......post both breakers please - It could (will) help out others

Check out breakers.tv if you haven't - tons of REPUTABLE breakers (some doing auctions on eBay if you HAVE to go that route)

BostonNut · 03-07-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

stop buying breaks of ebay

That would require the increasingly rare "common sense."

socal805 · 03-07-2018, 10:24 AM

I've done numerous breaks on ebay w/no issues...Except for this one time when the breaker fell asleep on us (everyone received a refund). Besides that no issues and some really funny moments.

The major difference from BO breaks and ebay...the $$$. Especially when dealing with a new breaker on ebay, as these tend to go for a lot less than normal.

slugger82685 · 03-07-2018, 01:31 PM

I rarely have issues with Ebay breakers and I purchase on there all the time. I also don’t see a lot of new breakers posting on there anymore, usually the breaks I’m buying into are people I’ve bought into before even without realizing when I’m bidding. That being said, I could see how it would be very easy to scam people but if this breaker did it to you then I’m sure he’s done it to others and would have lots of negatives.

cking · 03-07-2018, 10:56 PM

I have an Ebay breaking incident that will make you sick to your stomach.

A friend of mine in 2011 bought into a break on Ebay in the middle of Cam Newton mania.

I do not remember the breaker..it was 7 years ago.

Sure enough a monster Cam auto was pulled.

My friend was very excited. Woke up the next morning and had a refund given by the breaker. $60 or so I believe was the buy in.

Also had a message from the breaker saying he spilled soda on the card and it was destroyed. The card was serial numbered.

If that was not bad enough, the story gets even better.

24 hours later the card was listed for sale by the breaker.Card was fine, no damage. Same serial number. $400 was his asking price.

My friend sent Ebay the message about damage, a link to the new listing and the video of the break.

Eaby said as long as the seller gave a refund there was nothing they could do.

My friend actually went to bid on the card for whatever reason and the seller had him blocked.

Basically he was using everyone elses money for his breaks and when monster cards got pulled he just refunded whoever had that team the buy in price for the break.

That is a digusting display of human behavior. Degenerate junkie taken to a whole new level.

oldgoldy97 · 03-08-2018, 02:43 PM

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

03-06-2018, 10:58 PM	#1
lesternatty Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 223	Scammed Again by Breaker. What do I do? I've now been scammed twice by two different eBay breakers in the past two weeks. They send out the the base and junk hits, but I got two very nice cards and never received either of them from either breaker. This is becoming rampant on eBay. They will send out the worthless cards, but if you get a nice hit you likely won't receive the card. I spend hundreds each months on breaks, and when I finally get a couple nice hits both are just magically lost in the mail. No update on tracking info, just shown that the label was created. I will end up getting a $15 refund for a $300 card. This is so frustrating and I am never doing a break again. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm debating taking this breaker to court, I don't care how much the lawyer fees cost. Last edited by iluvfish2; 03-07-2018 at 11:32 AM. Reason: I cant see how this would compromise anything - did move thread

03-06-2018, 11:14 PM	#4
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,723	stop buying breaks of ebay __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

03-06-2018, 11:53 PM	#9
The Accountant Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 12,344	its too easy to scam people. you arent techinically guaranteed anything... its a "bonus". Sorry OP lots of scumbags out there. Can't break with any average joe __________________ Buying: Cole Hamels 1/1s

03-07-2018, 12:11 AM	#11
knownas2letters Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 6,810	That really sucks man, always some sketch in the card game. __________________ ******************************* http://s1183.photobucket.com/albums/x472/knownastwoletters *******************************

03-07-2018, 07:00 AM	#12
Crzy4phins Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Springs,Colorado Posts: 1,370 kilosportscards	These scammers give us Ebay breakers a bad name. I hate scammers. I run an Ebay break once a month and I've never had any complaints aside from the usual "I misread the listing and thought I was getting 5 boxes of cards can I get a refund" BS. I really hate that there are dishonest breakers out there. I do the breaks just for fun. I very rarely make any money after supplies so they just ruin the enjoyment. That's my rant. Sorry this has happened to you. __________________ Collect Dolphins, Bob Griese, Brian Griese,Howie Long,Vikings,Raiders,(Panthers,Broncos,Cowboys for the wife) https://www.flickr.com/photos/kilosportscards/albums Trade lists: http://loreskovic.wix.com/kilo-sport-cards

03-06-2018, 11:00 PM	#2
jasonhopkins Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,623 jason.hopkins jasonhopkins	I've decided to only deal with the breakers here at BO. So far they all have been legit.

03-06-2018, 11:08 PM	#3
myerscards Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 9,729	Who are the Breakers?

03-06-2018, 11:19 PM	#5
Bruvydsb Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,912	I join Ebay breaks all the time (for years) and never an issue. I'm just very picky who I break with. Must have HUGE flawless feedback for starters. That all being said, who scammed you???

03-06-2018, 11:36 PM	#7
Dacubs Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,837 pharmkid97 pharmkid97	and yet, you won't name the breaker.....

03-07-2018, 07:37 AM	#14
AnthonyCorona Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 11,253 bwoodcollector	Very sorry to hear this, it's an awful situation. I buy into breaks from two eBay breakers who have both sent me my best hits I've had. Twice here on BO I've purchased breaks and of course those went flawlessly. I hope this works out, only advice I can give is find a good 1-4 breakers and stick with them, I know it's tempting but I've stopped venturing out much further than who I know is good Sent from my LG-TP450 using Tapatalk __________________ Julio better

03-07-2018, 07:42 AM	#15
Dobber2330 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 3,552 cardsbydoby	Leave negative feedback on Ebay for both bad breakers??? __________________ Please note - I do not PM people who have interest in cards as very few people ever return such PM's. All cards are for sale and if you are interested in anything please feel free to send over a PM with an offer. PM's that say, "How much is XXX" or "What is your best price on XXX" without an offer will not be returned.

03-07-2018, 07:46 AM	#16
hockeyguyrich Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading pa Posts: 1,796 Icepatch05	This should have happened ^^^^^^^^^

03-07-2018, 07:48 AM	#19
hockeyguyrich Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading pa Posts: 1,796 Icepatch05	I wouldn't leave feedback until break is complete and cards received because if they start getting negatives they will magically find the cards

03-07-2018, 08:08 AM	#20
Earlsnake07 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 9,169 earlsnake07	You named one of the breakers, but not the other......post both breakers please - It could (will) help out others Check out breakers.tv if you haven't - tons of REPUTABLE breakers (some doing auctions on eBay if you HAVE to go that route) __________________ SCA - https://sportscardalbum.com/u/earlsnake07 Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/187941314@N02/albums/with/72157713887746408

03-07-2018, 10:24 AM	#22
socal805 Banned Join Date: May 2015 Location: Shafter, CA Posts: 6,837 socal661 socal805	I've done numerous breaks on ebay w/no issues...Except for this one time when the breaker fell asleep on us (everyone received a refund). Besides that no issues and some really funny moments. The major difference from BO breaks and ebay...the $$$. Especially when dealing with a new breaker on ebay, as these tend to go for a lot less than normal.

03-07-2018, 01:31 PM	#23
slugger82685 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 5,446 happyjubjub slugger82685	I rarely have issues with Ebay breakers and I purchase on there all the time. I also don’t see a lot of new breakers posting on there anymore, usually the breaks I’m buying into are people I’ve bought into before even without realizing when I’m bidding. That being said, I could see how it would be very easy to scam people but if this breaker did it to you then I’m sure he’s done it to others and would have lots of negatives. __________________ Follow case breaks split between myself and Bluejet66: @splitcases

03-07-2018, 10:56 PM	#24
cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 16,263	I have an Ebay breaking incident that will make you sick to your stomach. A friend of mine in 2011 bought into a break on Ebay in the middle of Cam Newton mania. I do not remember the breaker..it was 7 years ago. Sure enough a monster Cam auto was pulled. My friend was very excited. Woke up the next morning and had a refund given by the breaker. $60 or so I believe was the buy in. Also had a message from the breaker saying he spilled soda on the card and it was destroyed. The card was serial numbered. If that was not bad enough, the story gets even better. 24 hours later the card was listed for sale by the breaker.Card was fine, no damage. Same serial number. $400 was his asking price. My friend sent Ebay the message about damage, a link to the new listing and the video of the break. Eaby said as long as the seller gave a refund there was nothing they could do. My friend actually went to bid on the card for whatever reason and the seller had him blocked. Basically he was using everyone elses money for his breaks and when monster cards got pulled he just refunded whoever had that team the buy in price for the break. That is a digusting display of human behavior. Degenerate junkie taken to a whole new level.

03-08-2018, 02:43 PM	#25
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The parade zone Posts: 44,721 Myfakeebayid	Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.